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Alex Cockell
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Hi all,
Just a quick headsup... The Apprentice is back on - 12 more Yuppie know-nothings for us to all laugh at...
Starts on Wednesday 21 March, BBC1...
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Dormouse
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Jolly good! Mr D gets fed up of me saying " I could do this..." I don't think I could do The Apprentice job part but I'm convinced I would be better at all the tasks! We enjoy picking out the early rejects from their ridiculous comments (I'm top of the food chain" is one of this year's!)
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The Rogue
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We're looking forward to it.
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I've already seen one candidate describe himself as, "The reflection of perfection". Bring it!
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I have put in a whole £1 for the sweepstake at work.
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Sarasa
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Well that was great boardroom drama tonight. I didn't see that coming until the very last second. Talk about keep digging when you've made yourself a hole.
Good start to the series.
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When are they ever going to learn that less is more!! As we say in Wales, 'Poor dab'. She tried too hard in the boardroom I think.
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Spike
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I've said this before and I'm sure I will say it again several times during this series, but do these idiots ever watch previous series'? Don't they realise that when His Lordship tells them to shut the hell up, he really means it? She talked herself out of it!!
As to the task, as a Londoner I love watching a group of people who have no idea about the geography of London, let alone the traffic! Any native of London knows that travelling from Greenwich to London Zoo is a half day expedition!
One more thing. Why is it that all apprentices, regardless of race or gender, have piercing blue eyes? It's true. Look out for it at the next boardroom.
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If British industry is run by such as these, then God help us. No wonder we're doomed.
You can be nice and successful in business
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Spike
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That's very true. Another way of looking at it is that if they were truly any good at what they do, they'd be out there doing it. They wouldn't need to appear on a TV programme to do it.
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Schroedinger's cat
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Well Biriana knew The Regents Park area, so she should have known that it was a major trip across.
Katie should have gone, and nearly did, but Biriana talked herself out of it. I was oddly impressed by Gabriel, even though she was a rubbish PM, but she stood up for herself, and I think she is better than she showed this week.
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St. Gwladys
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I've just been looking at who the contestants are and what they had to say about themselves. After last night, I like Gabrielle and Stephen - they seem the most down to earth and likeable, which probably means they wil go out very soon! Mind, the winner last year seemed pleasant, which just goes to prove that nice people do, sometimes, win.
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Spike
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quote:
Originally posted by Schroedinger's cat:
Well Biriana knew The Regents Park area, so she should have known that it was a major trip across.
She said she knew the area, but that was a bloody long walk she led for her team mates.
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I thought Bilyana should have stayed for entertainment value, and Katie should have gone.
One thing that seemed quite unfair was that the girls had someone on their team who already knew how to do printing (Gabrielle), so they were able to produce much higher-quality goods than the boys (not that it helped them in the end). I know that both teams have a mix of skills, but that was just one that was highly specialised and quite important for the task. A bit like if they dumped them in Japan, and one team had a fluent Japanese speaker while the others hadn't a clue.
The bit where the girls got told off by the shopkeeper was both hilarious and absolutely awful at the same time! They were so rude!
Can't see a winner yet - I don't think we've even heard everyone speak yet, I guess!
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The ladies lose again ![[Disappointed]](graemlins/disappointed.gif) Asked to design a household gadget they produce a toy. Then suggest to the retailer that they order a million ![[Killing me]](graemlins/killingme.gif) Plus they couldn't work out the figures for the profit margin.
I quite liked the composting gadget the other team produced. It looked good.
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Schroedinger's cat
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The ladies are good at some parts of the tasks, but rubbish at the most important ones. The lads are rubbish at pretty much everything, but manage to win.
Azhar is rubbish and was lucky that they won, or he would have been out. Stephen is an arrogant shit, and should go. He thinks he knows everything, but is just a salesman.
Jane and Katie were lucky this week. Katie would have gone if she had been called into the boardroom, and Jane was very close to going.
Jenna I like - she has a mouth on her, but she tries and often succeeds. This week, she blew it badly, and was fortunate, but I think she is better than that.
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Sarasa
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I thought Jeanna should have gone, not only did she muck up the figures, she was the one who vetoed the tap cosy- which might have been a marginally better idea than the one they came up with.
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Schroedinger's cat
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But as was said on YBF, the tap pillow wouldn't have sold, because most people put their head at the other end. It would have bombed like a very bombing bomb.
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justlooking
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The focus group liked it. I thought it was to prop your feet up. Even so I don't think it would have had much impact. The splash-shield thing was OK as a bath toy but didn't really work as a splash-shield.
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Nanny Ogg
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The tap pillow would work if you share baths with your partner ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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Sioni Sais
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I saw The Apprentice for the second time in my life this week. 'Lord' Sugar gets on my tits but not as much as the contestants.
The latter have a serious problem. Although many are in busines on their own account and making a success of it, they are AFAICT involved in service industries or trading (buying and selling).
Given the task of designing a product and bringing it to market I'm not surprised they struggled but no-one, not even some of the panel, seemed to get this important point.
They have to design another 'product' next week. Watch out for more train-crash television.
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justlooking
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Well last night's was fun. Inventing, producing and selling a new condiment made for all kinds of gormless mishaps, like turning up to a selling pitch without a sample of the product. Third time in the Bridge cafe for Katie but she survived. I'm starting to like Duane.
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Enjoyed it last night. I think Michael was unfortunate to go after last night, because it was his first time, and Ricky in charge of the production was really responsible for the failure.
Michael was unlikely to win, but he deserved another chance. IMO.
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joan knox
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Although I suspect Ricky did manage to salvage a dire situation caused by the incompetent passengers Adam and Tom....
Good heavens but Jane is sour-faced besom.
Duane to win?
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Nanny Ogg
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I've taken a dislike to Stephen Brady - especially when he went for the name "Belissimo" and didn't know what it meant, whether it was actually Italian (it just sounded it) and got the spelling wrong.
Surely he could have checked everything on the internet before making such a stupid mistake.
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Schroedinger's cat
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I am pretty sure that they are not allowed internet access in any of the process. However, the design company should have spotted it or checked it. That was sloppy of them.
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Spike
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I doubt the design company (or any other third party for that matter) are allowed to interfere in any way. They just do as they are instructed.
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Dormouse
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And while they may not be allowed internet access, surely they could find a dictionary somewhere...or an Italian person...?! I don't think lack of internet is a good enough excuse for not checking. They are idiots, mostly, aren't they?
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Idiots can be hilarious, especially the ones who take themselves seriously. They make good telly. Remember when they went to Morrocco and had to source various things including a kosher chicken? One team, with a member who claimed to be Jewish, produced a halal chicken - it had been prayed over by a Muslim, so that made it kosher, right?
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Schroedinger's cat
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I would have thought the design company would have asked them what the words were, and spelled them right. But it it probably not much their fault.
Yes they are idiots. They should have taken the responsibility and got it spelled correctly. But that would not have been such good telly as getting people they were selling to telling them.
Actually, I think they are less idiots as just far too arrogant to check things up, when they cannot do it easily and simply on their phone. It is more laziness than stupidity - mostly.
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I'm really looking forward to next week - 11th April, as the contestants are apparently asked to but and then sell second hand goods........
Very few of them seem to have any idea what Real Life is abortive!
I reckon those Junior Apprentices a few months ago were a far better lot!
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Yep, I think next weeks could be fun. The trouble is after having seen a few series the tasks start to get a bit repetative. This looks a bit different.
I thought Michael had to go, the others made mistakes (why does everyone have it in for Katie, she seems OK to me), but he really did look out of his depth.
I think there should be a prize for biggest sob story. We had Jane going on about how losing the task was worse than her son missing her, and this week Michael tried the I've come from nothing the hard way ploy.
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Yes, as soon as he started on that one I thought "he's going". Hasn't he watched any of the previous series to know that Lord Sugar doesn't respond well to that kind of thing? Another one who literally talked himself out of the "job".
I also suspect that the professionals are instructed to limit their advice to the specific topic and not things like spelling mistakes. In a way it would be nice to find out exactly what their instructions are but it might also spoil it.
They don't appear to have access to the internet or the buying tasks would go a lot better. This does make the task less realistic (whenever I am asked about anything at work I whisper to myself "Google is your friend") but it does mean that the candidates need to be quite creative and imaginative. Oh, and it does make "better" telly because they look slightly more like dipsticks than they probably really are.
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Nanny Ogg
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Has anyone dug out their old space hoppers and hula hoops for the Groove Train?
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I haven't watched it yet but I saw a news item - Duane's gone ![[Waterworks]](graemlins/bawling.gif) I'll have to watch it now to find out why. The news item said the best team lost and the best candidate got fired. Apparently Adam was a crap project manager and brought Duane back into the boardroom for tactical reasons. I now hate Adam. Even before I've seen the episode.
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Has anyone dug out their old space hoppers and hula hoops for the Groove Train?
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Schroedinger's cat
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The wrong team won. I think that they should have deducted the cost of the space hoppers, hula hoops, and skipping ropes from their 12K order, which would have made a difference.
Duane messed up, and, of the 3 in the boardroom, he was the one who should have gone. However, he was not the worst performer in the task.
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I have no idea why Ricky brought those two back into the board room. If he'd brought either of the non-entities (can't remember their names, which seems kind of appropriate!) they would have been fired.
I agree that the other team should have had the equipment costs deducted as they obviously had no idea what they were doing. Space Hoppers cost £2?? Since when?
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Seen it now. It was Ricky that did for Duane, not Adam as I'd read, probably mis-read. Still don't like Adam though. A very high cringe-factor episode.
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Spike
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I have no idea why Ricky brought those two back into the board room. If he'd brought either of the non-entities (can't remember their names, which seems kind of appropriate!) they would have been fired.
That's why he didn't take them into the boardroom. What would have been the point for him? From a tactical point of view, it made more sense to take a gamble and hope one of the good ones got fired, thus reducing the competition.
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Sioni Sais
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Space Hoppers cost £2?? Since when?
See the Seventies thread in Heaven. Maybe Spacehoppers were priced at forty shillings, which sounds a helluva lot more than two quid.
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And while they may not be allowed internet access, surely they could find a dictionary somewhere...or an Italian person...?! I don't think lack of internet is a good enough excuse for not checking. They are idiots, mostly, aren't they?
Last series one of them phoned a library to get a definition for something - that was a rare spark of genius! I think it was in the task where they had to find items for the Savoy, and one lot phoned a library to find out what a cloche was.
This week was a travesty. Firstly, they should have deducted the price of the space hoppers etc (but the rules had stated that the result would be based on licence sales, not profit - so maybe the other team missed a chance - why not just offer them a £50 cash back on every sale?!). Secondly, Groove Train was sold for a different market than the one it was pitched for - so basically, Virgin were going to take the basic idea and pay someone else to adapt it to something they could use. That doesn't seem fair.
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It's curious that an Italian word spelled wrong was considered appalling, whereas an English word spelled wrong would be just considered standard marketing cuteness.
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Originally posted by WhyNotSmile:
Firstly, they should have deducted the price of the space hoppers etc (but the rules had stated that the result would be based on licence sales, not profit...
Secondly, Groove Train was sold for a different market than the one it was pitched for - so basically, Virgin were going to take the basic idea and pay someone else to adapt it to something they could use. That doesn't seem fair.
Groove Train was only going to be adapted for a different market (i.e. changed a bit to allow for kids); most of the takings of the other group were a lump sum for their idea to be picked up and "developed" (i.e. changed completely) - which kind of balances that out.
I agree that equipment cost should have been taken into account, though. Even if the result was based on licence sales, they did their own pricing, and, if the cost of the licence included equipment cost, this would affect the income from each licence.
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Originally posted by Spike:From a tactical point of view, it made more sense to take a gamble and hope one of the good ones got fired, thus reducing the competition.
Helluva gamble!
And he did not seem to have any idea how close he was to losing it...
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The right team won.
Stephen is an arrogant shit. Someone should give him a kick. He should have gone home just for being a complete prick.
Jenna did well. You could tell that she thought she had lost, and was probably going. She is irritating when she panics, and her strong accent doesn't help.
I think Lord S should have sacked all three of them. They were all losers.
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The right team won.
Yes but only by £20. I was all gearing up for a rant about how no matter what the task is supposed to be about it always comes down to money in the end.
Adam should've gone but he's this year's save-the-firing-til-later-because-of-entertainment-value candidate.
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Adam is such a gobshite. I want him and Ricky to fight until one of them starts crying. Or until Jade jumps up and distracts them, by admitting that she is a man.
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Adam is so smarmy - Lord S wanted gourmet, and the meatballs were, sort of, but Adam just kept emphasising how cheap they were.
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I thought it would have been really unfair if Adam's team had won it, seeing as they didn't stick by the brief. I thought Adam was lucky not to get fired, agreeing to the name 'Utterly Delicious Meatballs' was a bad mistake.
Best bit of the night was Katie addressing a bus load of bored people dressed as a pizza.
'You can guess what food we're selling.'
'Pizza.'
'No, meatballs.'
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