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Thread: Just Fuck Yourself, Karl.
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Firenze
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So which team are you fielding for today, Evensong?
I notice there hasn't been much of this forgiveness shit Christianity's supposed to go in for.
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Zach82
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What people were "on my side" really? MT said I was right but couldn't say so without a passive aggressive insult about how horrible it is to defend me, and orfeo is pretending that "being a huge jerk for no reason" constitutes "rhetoric," which I flatter myself to think is something personal considering it's for something against me.
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Marvin the Martian
Interplanetary
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quote:
Originally posted by Evensong:
Surely one should wait for the really big and really mean before coming to premature conclusions?
...said the mouse, turning up late to the tiger convention.
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Evensong
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quote:
Originally posted by Firenze:
So which team are you fielding for today, Evensong?
Well at the moment Zach is looking like the underdog. So it's my Christian Duty in this context to field for him.
quote:
Originally posted by Firenze:
I notice there hasn't been much of this forgiveness shit Christianity's supposed to go in for.
From whose side? Both Zach and Karl are Christians.
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Evensong
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quote:
Originally posted by Marvin the Martian:
quote:
Originally posted by Evensong:
Surely one should wait for the really big and really mean before coming to premature conclusions?
...said the mouse, turning up late to the tiger convention.
The mouse? Never been called that before.
Besides. I'm a Wood Tiger. 1974. You?
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orfeo
Ship's Musical Counterpoint
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quote:
Originally posted by Zach82:
All I did to get you, at least, to turn instantly was to doubt the sincerity of Karl's apology, a thing he himself hasn't been bothered to defend since.
All you did was doubt?
No. What you did was outright reject it as loudly and emphatically as you could conceive. You think "Go to hell" is you expressing doubt? In what universe?
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orfeo
Ship's Musical Counterpoint
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quote:
Originally posted by Zach82:
and orfeo is pretending that "being a huge jerk for no reason" constitutes "rhetoric,"
Oh fuck off. You snivelling pathetic weasel. You can barely go a SINGLE POST without twisting someone's words in the most negative light. It is your mission in life to be the put upon, the downtrodden, the wronged party. You fucking love wallowing in misery. I bet you spent your university years writing deep, meaningful poetry about the agony of existence and how oppressed you were by the system.
Go play in traffic and stay there until you really have something to cry about. Whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whinewhine whinewhine whinewhine whinewhine whinewhine whinewhine whinewhine whinewhine whinewhine whinewhine whinewhine whinewhine whinewhine whinewhiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnneeee!
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Zach82
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quote:
Originally posted by orfeo:
quote:
Originally posted by Zach82:
All I did to get you, at least, to turn instantly was to doubt the sincerity of Karl's apology, a thing he himself hasn't been bothered to defend since.
All you did was doubt?
No. What you did was outright reject it as loudly and emphatically as you could conceive. You think "Go to hell" is you expressing doubt? In what universe?
Is this some sort of psychological argument? "In what universe does this constitute rhetoric?" vs. "In what universe does telling a person to go to hell express doubt about an apology's sincerity?
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Matt Black
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I cannot Adam'n'Eve it that this thread has run to three pages....
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Zach82
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quote:
Originally posted by orfeo:
quote:
Originally posted by Zach82:
and orfeo is pretending that "being a huge jerk for no reason" constitutes "rhetoric,"
Oh fuck off. You snivelling pathetic weasel. You can barely go a SINGLE POST without twisting someone's words in the most negative light. It is your mission in life to be the put upon, the downtrodden, the wronged party. You fucking love wallowing in misery. I bet you spent your university years writing deep, meaningful poetry about the agony of existence and how oppressed you were by the system.
Go play in traffic and stay there until you really have something to cry about. Whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whinewhine whinewhine whinewhine whinewhine whinewhine whinewhine whinewhine whinewhine whinewhine whinewhine whinewhine whinewhine whinewhine whinewhiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnneeee!
Said the guy that almost banned a long time poster for making a joke about his sex life.
[ 19. June 2014, 11:59: Message edited by: Zach82 ]
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Sioni Sais
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/Hosting
Let's all remember that not posting =/= not hosting.
Hosting/
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Zach82
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Duly noted. As a mere poster, orfeo once threw a multi-page temper tantrum when I called him a heretic, and when I finally did apologize he threw the apology right back in my face. And that comment wasn't even predicated on malice.
As a poster and has a host, orfeo is a gigantic fucking hypocrite. He's the king of outraged offense compared to me.
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Eliab
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quote:
Originally posted by Zach82:
All I did to get you, at least, to turn instantly was to doubt the sincerity of Karl's apology, a thing he himself hasn't been bothered to defend since.
Which, even if there wasn't now plenty of reason to doubt, is such a small thing, I can't really conceive of how it brought down all this. Which, I know, is the entire problem, and why the situation really is beyond fixing.
Why would you doubt Karl's sincerity? He said (to paraphrase) that he hadn't meant the thing you took offence at (namely, wishing you dead), but apologised for giving that impression. And not in a fake "sorry that you took offence" manner, but in a way that acknowledged that the fault for causing the offence was his, because of how his post was worded.
Add to that the fact that Karl is (to put it mildly) not exactly known for being an arsehole, is not generally either aggressive or dishonest, and set out quite plausibly what he did intend his post to convey, and I can't see any fair reason for thinking him insincere.
I can't be the only person who's reading this feeling no hostility to you at all, but who is wishing that you'd step back, take a deep breath, and accept Karl's apology with the same grace with which it was offered.
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Boogie on down!
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quote:
Originally posted by Eliab:
I can't be the only person who's reading this feeling no hostility to you at all, but who is wishing that you'd step back, take a deep breath, and accept Karl's apology with the same grace with which it was offered.
Exactly right.
I am beginning to think you enjoy feeling aggrieved, Zach82.
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Marvin the Martian
Interplanetary
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quote:
Originally posted by Zach82:
As a poster and has a host, orfeo is a gigantic fucking hypocrite. He's the king of outraged offense compared to me.
(emphasis mine)
Be very careful when making comments about Hosts in their capacity as Hosts, Zach. Attacking them as posters is fine, but when you go out of your way to specify that you're attacking them as Hosts as well then I can't help but glance meaningfully at Commandment 6...
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Sioni Sais
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quote:
Originally posted by Zach82:
Duly noted. As a mere poster, orfeo once threw a multi-page temper tantrum when I called him a heretic, and when I finally did apologize he threw the apology right back in my face. And that comment wasn't even predicated on malice.
As a poster and has a host, orfeo is a gigantic fucking hypocrite. He's the king of outraged offense compared to me.
Hostly bowler on
Zach82:
If you have anything resembling a question about hostly action you take it to the Styx. Your remark about orfeo as a poster is OK but coupling it with his hosting contravenes C6 (look it up).
The Admins have been informed.
Hostly bowler off
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Zach82
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I am sorry for questioning orfeo's hosting.
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Marvin the Martian
Interplanetary
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Apology accepted.
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orfeo
Ship's Musical Counterpoint
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I've got no idea how you think I almost banned someone. I certainly remember the incident. I remember being very angry. But I have absolutely no power to ban anyone.
EDIT: And please note, I'm only talking about it because the thing had precisely nothing to do with me being a Host. I wasn't even being a Host at the time, as I was travelling across North America at the time.
But Hosts never, ever have the power to implement bans.
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Callan
Shipmate
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Zach,
As someone who doesn't (as far as I recall) have any issues with you or Karl could you just post something to the effect of "Dear Karl, I accept your apology. We are clearly not going to see eye to eye on this whole providence business, so shall we move on?"
Alternatively, you could hang on and hope that someone ends up going to Canossa. But as, has been pointed out, thus far you have hitherto managed to wind up people who, ordinarily, might have supported you and ticked off the hosts and admins. For the love of Mike, bank the apology and move on.
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Evensong
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Now see this is more interesting.
Eliab and Gildas are slightly weighted toward the really saintly and really unbiased side.
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Matt Black
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quote:
Originally posted by Gildas:
Zach,
As someone who doesn't (as far as I recall) have any issues with you or Karl could you just post something to the effect of "Dear Karl, I accept your apology. We are clearly not going to see eye to eye on this whole providence business, so shall we move on?"
Alternatively, you could hang on and hope that someone ends up going to Canossa. But as, has been pointed out, thus far you have hitherto managed to wind up people who, ordinarily, might have supported you and ticked off the hosts and admins. For the love of Mike, bank the apology and move on.
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If I had Russ, Oscar the Grouch, Lyda Rose, Eliab, and Gildas suggesting I might be over-reacting I hope I would have to humility to consider the possibility that they might be right. The fact that others whose fairness I trusted less might agree with them would, I hope, not keep me from considering that I might not be acting gracefully.
If I were posting in such a manner that I could get deano and leo to agree on something, I know I would have to lie down.
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Callan
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quote:
Originally posted by Evensong:
Now see this is more interesting.
Eliab and Gildas are slightly weighted toward the really saintly and really unbiased side.
Unlike Eliab I am probably not unbiased and certainly not saintly. I have, however, made a tit of myself on these boards often enough to recognise when someone else is making the same mistake.
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saysay
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Poe's Law.
Fuck me gently with a chainsaw.
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"'Oh sweet baby purple Jesus' - that's a direct quote from a 9 year old - shoutout to purple Jesus."
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The Silent Acolyte
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quote:
Originally posted by Karl: Liberal Backslider:
I've seen people moved to incandescent anger (and I don't blame them) by suggestions that it's "God's will". I've seen people destroyed by grief, so utterly destroyed that any suggestion that it's "God's will" similarly moves me to incandescent anger.
A close relation to this sort of thought is quote:
Everything happens for a reason.
which somehow seems give more comfort than the more honest and direct "it's all God's will; all y'all need to just suck it up."
I try to be gentle when I suggest to those transfixed by grief that God is, in fact, outraged by a small child's excruciating pain from, say, leukemia. How could it be otherwise for the all-loving god who desires the restoration of all things.
This God, to whom fully faithful witness is given in the entire Bible, OT & NT, desires with great desire that we participate the divine life. But, when we don't then some seriously bad shit happens. And, that's on us, not on God.
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mousethief
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quote:
Originally posted by Zach82:
All I did to get you, at least, to turn instantly was to doubt the sincerity of Karl's apology, a thing he himself hasn't been bothered to defend since.
Can't say I blame him. If you didn't accept the sincerity of his apology, what could possibly make him believe you'd accept the sincerity of his defense of the sincerity of his apology? Certainly no behavior you've demonstrated on this thread.
quote:
Originally posted by Zach82:
What people were "on my side" really? MT said I was right but couldn't say so without a passive aggressive insult about how horrible it is to defend me,
Jesus you really are a fucking pansy. That was a light-hearted aside about how we usually don't get along so well, to show that I wasn't taking your side in the conflict out of cameraderie but because I really, objectively, thought you had a good case. HAD being the operative word here. My God, man, go see your therapist and leave the ship alone for a while.
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RooK
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Clearly, we have wasted enough time gnawing on the thin amusement to be derived from what Zach pretends to be thinking about the actual words he posted. The time has come to start speculating on what this is all really about.
I suspect that he's had an accident trimming hairs in a sensitive area, and is suffering from a testicular laceration. Which, as it turns out, he is too embarrassed to seek treatment for. And is now subsequently hosting a largish colony of bacterial squatters in his nethers, of an ilk that poisons his testosterone feed. Driving him mad. And more than usually stupid.
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Ariston
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Ow.
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Matt Black
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Gammy gonads? That might explain quite a bit...
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Martin60
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The heart is deceitful above all things and desperately wicked. Yeah, who can know it.
Murder isn't far from ANY of our hearts.
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Boogie
Boogie on down!
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quote:
Originally posted by Martin PC not & Ship's Biohazard:
Murder isn't far from ANY of our hearts.
![[Eek!]](eek.gif) Speak for yourself!
I can't even use mousetraps!
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quote:
Originally posted by Boogie:
quote:
Originally posted by Eliab:
I can't be the only person who's reading this feeling no hostility to you at all, but who is wishing that you'd step back, take a deep breath, and accept Karl's apology with the same grace with which it was offered.
Exactly right.
I am beginning to think you enjoy feeling aggrieved, Zach82.
Indeed. He must be positively orgasmic right now. And we keep feeding him with all this attention.
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Zach82
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After taking a long drive yesterday I reached the conclusion that I really have been being very silly. Whatever the rhetorical point Karl was trying to make by saying the board would be better off being rid of me, it seems to be a generally shared sentiment, and this has seemed to be the case for a while now. It seemed to be the case long before this thread even happened.
I'm not expecting any sympathy, and even less am I expecting anyone to beg me to stay. I'm honestly not. I just wanted to take my leave on a positive note because this community really has been important to me over the years.
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Zach82 - from my reading of the situation:
Karl overstated something, and you complained. Nobody had any problems at this point.
Karl apologised - still no problem. Normal Hell thread, thread gets closed. Instead you refused to accept the apology. That's when you got attacked - for not accepting an apology.
I don't see anyone saying you should leave the Ship, just accept an apology.
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Oh, Geez! ANOTHER flounce! The line taking bets forms to the right.
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Sioni Sais
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quote:
Originally posted by Zach82:
After taking a long drive yesterday I reached the conclusion that I really have been being very silly. Whatever the rhetorical point Karl was trying to make by saying the board would be better off being rid of me, it seems to be a generally shared sentiment, and this has seemed to be the case for a while now. It seemed to be the case long before this thread even happened.
I'm not expecting any sympathy, and even less am I expecting anyone to beg me to stay. I'm honestly not. I just wanted to take my leave on a positive note because this community really has been important to me over the years.
If you think that strikes a positive note then you must have a tin ear.
Byeee!
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mousethief
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I see Zach purchased the "Nobody likes me everybody hates me" t-shirt from the same vendor as EvangelicalEvaporator.
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Organ Builder
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So I guess it is easier to leave after more than a decade here than consider that one might have spurned a genuinely-offered apology.
Wow!
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I've had my moments with Zach, but we worked it out on his last Hell thread. I'd be sorry to see him go if only because we need some representation of loyal yet conservative Piskies. I'm certainly loyal but not particularly conservative. ![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
And I do have some sympathy for those who have opinions which are under-represented here. Handling arguments gracefully when you feel like you are being carpet bombed with countering views would take some finesse and some thick skin. There are people here who have that finesse in spades. And some just have skin like tough old leather. Either way, some who are passionate about their views and yet are sensitive can have a hard time of it and even misconstrue things at times. Some don't flounce but just quietly leave for the most part, just popping in to make a brief appearances on occasion. That makes me rather sad.
So, Zach, this isn't "begging" for you to reconsider, but I do hope that you will think of this as a break and not a flounce.
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Zach82
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By saying I was being silly, I had meant to imply that I was being silly to not accept the apology offered. Sorry for not making that clearer.
I'm not going to stick around defend my decision to move on from the ship, but I do want to make that clear.
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RooK
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"Nobody likes me,
Everybody hates me,
Going to the garden to eat worms."
Yes, that is a much less childish reaction. Mature, even. Balanced. Our tiny little heads may explode from the sheer quantity of our newfound respect for your insight and equanimity.
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quote:
Originally posted by Lyda*Rose:
Zach, this isn't "begging" for you to reconsider, but I do hope that you will think of this as a break and not a flounce.
Seconded.
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orfeo
Ship's Musical Counterpoint
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Take a breather, think in a more relaxed environment about how you can take all the bastard down with your brilliant Calvinist arguments, then come back. Simples.
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RooK
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Fuckin' softies.
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Boogie
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quote:
Originally posted by Zach82:
By saying I was being silly, I had meant to imply that I was being silly to not accept the apology offered.
Yes you were - but surely that's not a reason to leave? Especially as you say this community really has been important to you over the years.
There is far more to the Ship than Hell - just hang around All Saints, heaven and the circus for a while. Then, when and if you are ready, come back for a bit more purgatory and hell fire ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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Sioni Sais
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quote:
Originally posted by Boogie:
quote:
Originally posted by Zach82:
By saying I was being silly, I had meant to imply that I was being silly to not accept the apology offered.
Yes you were - but surely that's not a reason to leave? Especially as you say this community really has been important to you over the years.
There is far more to the Ship than Hell - just hang around All Saints, heaven and the circus for a while. Then, when and if you are ready, come back for a bit more purgatory and hell fire
Hell hosts know this more than most. If we didn't get fluffy in Heaven and play silly games in The Circus (or Purgatory, if the mood takes us) we couldn't host Hell.
Flounces in Hell bring out the very worst in me, and that is very bad indeed.
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Originally posted by Lyda*Rose:
Zach, this isn't "begging" for you to reconsider, but I do hope that you will think of this as a break and not a flounce.
Seconded.
Thirded. ![[Waterworks]](graemlins/bawling.gif)
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no prophet's flag is set so...
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Fuck me gently with a chainsaw.
I missed this earlier. The best part of this thread in my read of it just now. And also because [i]Heathers[i] is so great.
I happen to like Karl and Zach both. Both contribute. Both say things I like and dislike. So can we all fuck each other with chainsaws about now? It's all just so very.
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