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daisymay
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I heard it too - and the person quoting the Bible bits sounded really shocked!
Steve Tomkins was good. The Muslim man who commented seemed to do it politely, disagreeing about the Bible compared to the Koran.
BBC4 seemed to link Ship of Fools with Greenbelt...
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Pigwidgeon
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The Bishop of Arizona once again has mentioned us in his weekly E-Letter -- scroll down to "A Final Thought."
He's obviously a lurker (Hi, +Kirk!) -- one of these days we'll get him to a Shipmeet!
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Pigwidgeon
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And now the Boston Globe.
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Ancient Mariner
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CHURCH TIMES
St Paul wins ‘worst’ vote
by Ed Beavan
A ST PAUL “classic” has been voted the “worst verse in the Bible” in a poll by the irreverent Christian website Ship of Fools.
The winning verse, 1 Timothy 2.12, in which St Paul does not “permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man”, was unveiled as the most unpopular Bible text in the survey at the Greenbelt Festival on Monday.
The second most disliked text was 1 Samuel 15.3, in which God orders the destruction of the family of Amalek, while Exodus 22.18 was voted third-worst: Moses says: “Do not allow a sorceress to live.”
Two other verses from Paul also appear in the top ten: one where he condemns homosexuality in Romans 1, and one in Ephesians 5 where he calls on wives to “submit to their hus bands as to the Lord”. St Peter also gets in, with a verse appearing to condone slavery, 1 Peter 2.
Stephen Goddard, co-editor of Ship of Fools, said he believed that the “winning” verse was chosen because it was still “live” today. “It’s still used to ‘shut women up’ and stop them preaching.”
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The Weeder
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In todays Guardian, Simon Hoggart, my favourite columnist, refers to the Ship, suggesting it is 'for sceptical Christians' He comments on the Mystery Worshipper: 'They run a good sermon guide which can be every bit as rude as some restaurant critics', and seems to be a regular.
He is not impressed at the poll on unfavourite Bible verses, suggesting that 'either you believe this nonsense is ordained by an all powerful God or you don't' and can not pick and choose which verses we accept and which we don't.
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Ancient Mariner
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Well worth checking out a superb review of our 10 Worst Bible Verses project in the Huffington Post.
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Marvin the Martian
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Nice article. I love the repeated comparisons between Simon and Bishop Spong........ ![[Paranoid]](graemlins/paranoid.gif)
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Ancient Mariner
Sip the ship
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Originally posted by Marvin the Martian:
Nice article. I love the repeated comparisons between Simon and Bishop Spong........
Truly, separated at (second) birth.
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Ship of Fools' first novel, Rattles & Rosettes, is the tale of two football (soccer) fans: 16-year-old Tom in 1914 and Dan in 2010. More at www.rattlesandrosettes.com
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Viola
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A little mention in the Guardian's Guide section today in the Christmas Blog Roll section. Particular reference to "Gadgets for God and the 12 days of Kitchmas"
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Jigsaw
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Originally posted by rufiki:
Not sure if it counts as a media sighting, but we're being ripped off by the diocese of Chelmsford.
Potential MW's in that diocese "will need to have the recommendation of their incumbent".
Hmmm... doesn't that rather defeat the object of MW-ing?
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Sioni Sais
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Originally posted by rufiki:
Not sure if it counts as a media sighting, but we're being ripped off by the diocese of Chelmsford.
I'm rather pleased by the tone of this, as the bishop appears to assume that readers know about Ship of Fools!
Has Simon addressed Synod yet?
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Mark Wuntoo
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Originally posted by Jigsaw:
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Originally posted by rufiki:
Not sure if it counts as a media sighting, but we're being ripped off by the diocese of Chelmsford.
Potential MW's in that diocese "will need to have the recommendation of their incumbent".
Hmmm... doesn't that rather defeat the object of MW-ing?
It's a stupid thing - their operation of MWing, that is. Why couldn't they liaise with the Ship - I'm sure people already experienced in MWing could have been asked to discreetly get to work! Maybe the Ship could even have charged for the service! Sounds like an inside type job to me, even a cover-up by the grand old CofE.
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Simon
Editor
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Thanks for the tip-off, rufiki. I'll have a quiet word with Revd Kosla.
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Lyda*Rose
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Originally posted by Jigsaw:
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Originally posted by rufiki:
Not sure if it counts as a media sighting, but we're being ripped off by the diocese of Chelmsford.
Potential MW's in that diocese "will need to have the recommendation of their incumbent".
Hmmm... doesn't that rather defeat the object of MW-ing?
Um, I don't think that the potential MWer would be MWing their own church. I believe the diocese would like to have a reference so that they know who is signing up for the job of MWing diocese churches. It sounds reasonable to me.
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Jigsaw
Shipmate
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Originally posted by Lyda*Rose:
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Originally posted by Jigsaw:
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Originally posted by rufiki:
Not sure if it counts as a media sighting, but we're being ripped off by the diocese of Chelmsford.
Potential MW's in that diocese "will need to have the recommendation of their incumbent".
Hmmm... doesn't that rather defeat the object of MW-ing?
Um, I don't think that the potential MWer would be MWing their own church. I believe the diocese would like to have a reference so that they know who is signing up for the job of MWing diocese churches. It sounds reasonable to me.
Take the point that they wouldn't be MW-ing their own church, sure, Lyda Rose, but I still don't understand why there needs to be a "recommendation". Sounds like weeding out the urestful souls to me. And what will the would-be MW do if turned down as a result of the reference? Confront the incumbent?
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Lyda*Rose
Ship's broken porthole
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You're a suspicious soul. ![[Biased]](wink.gif)
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Jigsaw
Shipmate
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Originally posted by Lyda*Rose:
You're a suspicious soul.
I'm a nurse; it goes with the job.
BTW, I'm sorry if, in the posting back on the 16th December, I sent this thread tangential.
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Angel Wrestler
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Our United Methodist magazine, "The Interpreter," published a segment about The Lord's Prayer in text message and quoted Ship of Fools as well as published 3 of the winning posts. The Interpreter goes out to lay and clergy leaders across the denomination!
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Simon
Editor
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We've been included in a Top 50 of Evangelical Christian Blogs here.
OK... we're not evangelical or a blog, but still.
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Chorister
Completely Frocked
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Ah, but we are an Off-beat Perspective. I like that.
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daisymay
St Elmo's Fire
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I reckon I heard "Ship of Fools" mentioned very briefly this morning on Radio 4...
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duchess
Ship's Blue Blooded Lady
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Originally posted by Simon:
We've been included in a Top 50 of Evangelical Christian Blogs here.
OK... we're not evangelical or a blog, but still.
It's because I am reading things like Challis's blog, LaShawn's blog...James White's blog and I am always present on the ship, so my energy must have made this connect.
Just felt like saying something Californian today. I don't know why SoF made it there either but there you go. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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rufiki
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Originally posted by Chorister:
Ah, but we are an Off-beat Perspective. I like that.
Is "Off-beat" similar to "Off-message" or "Off-the-rails"?
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duchess
Ship's Blue Blooded Lady
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Originally posted by rufiki:
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Originally posted by Chorister:
Ah, but we are an Off-beat Perspective. I like that.
Is "Off-beat" similar to "Off-message" or "Off-the-rails"?
No, it means something like unique, quirky. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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Ancient Mariner
Sip the ship
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Have pre-recorded a Ship of fools feature Apps of the Apostles for tomorrow's (14 Feb) BBC Radio 4 Sunday programme (7.10am). The interview starts at 09:52.
Here's the Apps of the Apostles feature on the Ship.
[ added feature URL ]
[ 14. February 2010, 10:19: Message edited by: Simon ]
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Ariel
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Having just turned on the radio earlier this morning, still half asleep, I found myself listening to the Apps of the Apostles. The Ancient Mariner came across very well, I thought.
(I can also tell you that the Biblical Alarm Clock didn't have much success at getting me out of my somnolent state.)
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jacobsen
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I was driving up to LOndon from Lewes at the crack of doom, and found the whole thing very amusing. And to be taken so seriously!
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ken
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I set my alarm early and woke up and so presumably listened to it but I am so bad at mornings that I genuinely remember nothing about the item ![[Frown]](frown.gif) That's almost scary.
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Chorister
Completely Frocked
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All Shipmates should note that, instead of sitting around moaning about how crap Valentine's Day is, our esteemed Ancient Mariner got off his backside and did something useful with the day.
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Ancient Mariner
Sip the ship
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Chorister, your kind comments have not gone unnoticed... ![[Cool]](cool.gif)
Also, as a result of the Telegraph, we've made it into India's Little About for the first time.
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Ancient Mariner
Sip the ship
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Also Thaindian News and, er, Armoks News.
Also, look out for an article on apps of the aps by Simon in this week's Church Times (UK).
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welsh dragon
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We forgot to turn off our radio alarm so were amused to listen to this on Valentine's Day morning.
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lily pad
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During a commercial break from the Olympics, I had a look at the Anglican Journal and saw a mention of The Ship at the end of this article
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TonyK
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19th February copy of Church Times has a two-page spread by Cap'n Simon on 'The Apps of the Apostles'.
But it doesn't seem to be in their on-line version.
The Ship got a website link as well!
[eta the online reference]
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Scot
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The Ship was cited as the most popular church-rating site in a Seattle Times column, which led to a mention on the atheist blog Unreasonable Faith.
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The Weeder
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Does the Church Times count?
A double page spread on the Ships Christian apps?
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TonyK
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Originally posted by The Weeder:
Does the Church Times count?
A double page spread on the Ships Christian apps?
Does the Church Times count as what?
It's '..registered as a newspaper at the Post Office' according to the small print at the back - and a newspaper is certainly part of the 'media'.
And it has been mentioned several times before in this thread.
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Chorister
Completely Frocked
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Of course the 'Church Times' counts - amongst SoFers it's BIG. Why, this week alone I counted no fewer than 6 Shipmate contributors amongst its pages. And they are only the ones I know about. Which probably means there are even more.
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St. Gwladys
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I found three - including the double page spread.
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Chorister
Completely Frocked
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This week, it's Mystery Worship (Ship of Fools and other similar schemes) which gets a mention. Page 12 of the paper version.
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Ancient Mariner
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Good spot, Chorister.
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jlg
What is this place?
Why am I here?
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Originally posted by Chorister:
Of course the 'Church Times' counts - amongst SoFers it's BIG. Why, this week alone I counted no fewer than 6 Shipmate contributors amongst its pages. And they are only the ones I know about. Which probably means there are even more.
Well, among a certain subset of SoFers it's big. Is this something we barbarians in the colonies can look at on-line? For free, of course, we barbarians tend to be cheap. ![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
Since that first mention (pre-Y2K) of the Ship in the Boston Globe which led me here, I've never noticed any mention here in New England. But then, aside from the religious aspects of the political scene, coverage of religion in general has pretty much disappeared except for one-off tales of tragedy or wonderfulness at particular churches/synagogues/temples/etc. in the area.
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TonyK
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Originally posted by jlg:
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Well, among a certain subset of SoFers it's big. Is this something we barbarians in the colonies can look at on-line? For free, of course, we barbarians tend to be cheap.
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Church Times does have a website,and even offers access to some articles to non-subscribers. Sadly this generosity never seems to extend to those referring to the Ship
Incidentally the article on Mystery Worshipping in the current issue wasn't entirely complimentary - rather a case of damning with faint praise, I thought!
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