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shawn
Apprentice
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Just kidding.

[ 10. March 2003, 01:34: Message edited by: Erin ]

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Steve_R
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The problem is, that it is so tempting to get embroiled in such a thread. But this time I won't

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Arrietty

Ship's borrower
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As this is Heaven, thought it must be a thread either about the good things about homosexuality or jokes about it.

How about running it as a competition between three teams, the aim is that Team A have to keep the thread in Heaven, Team B have to get it transeferred to Purgatory and Team C to Hell?

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Wood
The Milkman of Human Kindness
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I'm in team A.

That Graham Norton's brilliant, isn't he?

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Tim V
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I'm in team B.

Actually, I prefer Ricky Gervaise.

Does anyone (ANYONE) have the guts to be on team C?

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clare
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I'm team B!

Ah, but I think you'll find that he isn't mentioned by name in the bible. I think we must embrace this truth.

clare


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Alan Cresswell

Mad Scientist 先生
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I should warn all members of team B that we already have an excellent thread in Purgatory.

Alan

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babybear
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Methinks that the good Doctor has just declared himself in Team C, Hellwards bound.

bb


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Spike

Mostly Harmless
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OK, I'll be Team C

quote:
Originally posted by Wood:
I'm in team A.

That Graham Norton's brilliant, isn't he?


Well you would say that wouldn't you? That's exactly the sort of stuff I'd expect from a shandy drinking lightweight with a Britney Spears obsession



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Ariel
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I'll be in Team C. The last thing we need is yet more of this stuff. It's BORING. And I don't like Graham Norton. Why can't we have a smiley with a spiky tail and little horns on?
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chukovsky

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Well I'm on team C and I think it's disgusting that this thread should be here and I can't be bothered to read all the 6 pages of the one in Purgatory so I think we should have a space in Hell where we can be short, snappy, and as rude as we like without bothering to read anyone else's thoughts on the subject.

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Joan the Outlaw-Dwarf

Ship's curiosity
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I'm on Team A, I think there's milage in a horror Story Relay for...

The Thread That Wouldn't Die.

Deep in the bowels of the Ship, something stirred. It uncoiled its fetid tendrils and sniffed the air... ah, its time was again coming, they thought they could ignore it, kill it, but no... Slowly it lifted its terrible head as it detected the smell of its food... ah, ignorance, so delicious, it could feel life returning to its limbs... It blinked...

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clare
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(regrouping team b)

Ah, but that's the point, Joan. We tend to resort to myths rather than facing the historical evidence. Our faith is founded on the person of Jesus, whom we seek to draw close to through our own experience and the truths contained in the biblical record. And, as I think you'll find if you read the gospels (I would say instead of spending all your time with these tedious horror writings, but that would be a free point for team C), that no-where does Matthew, Mark, Luke or John mention Grahem Norton.


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Spike

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(Team B)

quote:
Originally posted by clare:
( no-where does Matthew, Mark, Luke or John mention Grahem Norton.

That's got nothing to do with it because Graham Norton is an idiot, just like everyone else posting on this thread. (except me)



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Spike

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Oops - that should have read "Team C", but I'm not going to apologise for that as this thread is going to Hell

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Kerry
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I think that what we are confusing here is the graham norton of the evangelical tradition (who is a loud and rather outspoken LIVING bloke who tells us uncomfortable but true things we'd rather not hear), the graham norton of the orthodox tradition (who is a mystically inclined figure sitting around on mountain tops cracking jokes with Elijah - a bit vague but very, very PROFOUND and REAL), and the graham norton of the liberals (who, well, it depends what kind of graham norton you want to talk about, and in what context you're hoping to MEET graham norton...).
Does that make everything clear?
I'm for Team B.

Kerry

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Ariel
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Graham Norton hasn't posted on this thread. Not that I would read anything he posted anyway because he's BORING and so is everyone else on this thread except Team C.
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Pyx_e

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Team A ;

So Graham Norton is an anagram for "camper than a field full of tents".

anymore anagrams ?

P

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sharkshooter

Not your average shark
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How about a Team D who could try to get it moved to Kerygmania, where we could discuss Bible passages?


Does that comment mean I am on Team C?

Or that I am just confused?

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clare
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Dear Sharkshooter.

Nice try, but no cigar. I shall have to set up a (temporary) team E, to address this proposal which certainly belongs in the Styx.

Kerymania threads need to start with a bible passage, so i'm afraid you have well and truely missed your opportunity. May I suggest you join the wonderful contenders doing an absolutely fabulous job as team B! Your passages might come in useful

I shall now retreat from inscruitable objectivity, and disband team E.

clare


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Paul W.

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I would like to contend that "Graham Norton" is in fact an Urban Myth, and therefore this thread should be moved to the UM board for further discussion on alledged sightings of this mysterious figure.

(Team F)

Paul W


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Ham'n'Eggs

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I would like to point out that Graham Norton is in fact a Mystery Worshipper with a monstrous predelection for tat, so I invoke Team G to assemble at a suitable clerical costumers...

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Firenze

Ordinary decent pagan
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Team Z: Dedicated to the proposition that Jules and Sandy were far funnier.

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"After the storm I suppose you dragged yourselves up on deck"

"Ooo no, we dressed quite casual"


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Spike

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Firenze

On behalf of Team C I must tell you to READ THE RULES

There isn't a board for Jules and Sandy so deal with it. If you can't understand simple instructions then don't bother

[UBB Code edited]

[ 25 January 2002: Message edited by: Belisarius ]

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strathclydezero

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What about forfeits for the hosts of the boards that the thread gets moved to?

Conversation in the cafe has suggested:

MW hosts could lead a service which was being MW'ed (individually) - HT a welsh presby church, SS in high, non catholic anglican and bb in a la Sarum.

as for purg hosts
AC would have to write about the lizard men, and how they were really the royal family.
Laura could give a detailed list of the arguments for and against homosexuality.
Karl could write of his conversion to evangelical christianity, and how the earth was made, inc fossils, in 6 days.
Suggestions for Mousethief welcome .

Oh boy - no way I'm typing those suggestions for admin!

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chukovsky

Ship's toddler
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Good grief what a stupid discussion. Instead we should be talking about ways to torture people who run bicycles off the road while displaying their bigotry/ pushing their sexuality in someone else's face (delete as appropriate)


team C

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Atticus
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---------------------SPIKE
Look, I've never even seen Buffy the Vampire Slayer, OK?
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You don't know what you're missing, bud. I don't care which way you swing, there's fun filled high kicks for everyone there.
I'm on team A, though I think we should come as close to letting team C win as possible.

Ticklemehomer(the rude alter-ego to Atticus)


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starbelly
but you can call me Neil
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I am in Team F or g, or something.

I think we should discuss ideas for a service based on the theme of same sex relationships, how we would present it, who can do the powerpoint presentaions? who can bring the candles. How will we get everyone involved and can we use the room abouve the pub?

Neil


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Belisarius
Lord Bountiful of Admin (Emeritus) Delights
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quote:
Originally posted by Pyx_e:
Team A ;

So Graham Norton is an anagram for "camper than a field full of tents".

anymore anagrams ?

P


Homosexuality=Oh, a xylem is out

Team A: Success through Botany

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Qestia

Marshwiggle
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And I'll belatedly start Team 0, which, by not participating in this thread, is actively working to get it moved to The Archive post haste.

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I’m going to live as like a Narnian as I can even if there isn’t any Narnia.

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Arrietty

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Clare said:

quote:
May I suggest you join the wonderful contenders doing an absolutely fabulous job as team B! Your passages might come in useful

Are you saying their passages are not useful at the moment? *sigh* Have you even read the 10 commandments, you ***********?

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clare
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Arrity, I see that you are declaring your colours as a team C supporter. Fear not, Pugatory will have us yet.

I personally think that despite and including all your experiences, be they of homosexuality, threads, candles, anagrams or the mystery of worship that dare not speak its name, that we are all part of the wider whole that we strive towards in the unity of the spirit. Indeed, as Jesus himself commanded, be a fruit and do not be lopped.

Are we not in danger of undue lopping, and is this not indicative of wider issues which the churches have to face in this changing society we call the twenty-first century?

Yours thoughtfully,

clare

p.s. I think Rowan Williams can prune the lops the best myself, though i suspect this may prove over vigourous for Tony Blair!


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Ariel
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Will teams A, B, and D-Z just shove off and let the rest of us get on with being hellish in peace or whatever it is we do. It's our thread and we want it back.
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John Donne

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As a supporter of Team A I should like to share with you a poem I have written: 'Ode to my Sexuality', this I am performing while engaging in liturgical dance in a dark room lit with strange coloured lights.

*I choose to start the poem now.*

As it's a dynamic art form you'll have to take it on spec when I say it is beautiful, moving and poignant.


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Spike

Mostly Harmless
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LITURGICAL DANCE????? What the hell has that tree hugging hippy stuff have to do with anything of relevance? The idiotic heretics who dreamt that up should be excommunicated.

So says Team C



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Callan
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Originally posted by Spike:

quote:
There isn't a board for Jules and Sandy so deal with it. If you can't understand simple instructions then don't bother

That's uncanny. Has anyone ever seen Spike and Erin in the same room at the same time?

Team B by the way. Does Graham Norton exist when nobody's watching? And what are the implications of this for a post-modern calvinist theology which integrates the insights of pelagian neo-orthodoxy, with particular reference to the liturgical revision pioneered by Vatican II?

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Ariel
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Who cares. I'm having a lousy day, you should too. Now behave and start getting real, or Spike will eat you.

And you know what you can do with Graham Norton.


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Erin
Meaner than Godzilla
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quote:
Originally posted by Yaffle:
That's uncanny. Has anyone ever seen Spike and Erin in the same room at the same time?

This is my beloved son, in whom I am well pleased.

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strathclydezero

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Is that Erin declaring herself in team D?

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Belisarius
Lord Bountiful of Admin (Emeritus) Delights
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Rules for Team A's new Game Thread:

Whoever mentions the H-Word in a post has to drink. If the poster doesn't mention the H-Word, he makes someone else drink...

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Atticus
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BELISARIUS:
Is the H-word hell or homosexuality?
Either way here it goes:
"Bartender five shots please.
Hell/Homosexuality
Hell/Homosexuality
Hell/Homosexuality
Hell/Homosexuality
Hell/Homosexuality(excuse me) Another bartender
Hell/Homosexuality another
Hell/Homosexuality another
Hell/Homosexuality one more
What are lou yooking at!??!
Hell/Hicomosexuality
Hell/Homosexuality
Hic-hell/Homosessalty
Hello homosexuals
hell urp sexu
Wad de hell, just give me the bottle bartender...
[singing] Homohell, homohell, homohellomoheloomo
[under the counter]"

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Atticus
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"I'm drot as nunk as some theokle pink I am..."
[back to dazed stupor]

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Ariel
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quote:
Originally posted by Atticus:
Hell/Homosexuality(excuse me) Another bartender
Hell/Homosexuality another
Hell/Homosexuality another
Hell/Homosexuality one more
What are lou yooking at!??!

How many bartenders have you had? And which team do you bat for (as it were)?

(Note to self: I think the C team may have a possible recruit.)


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Late Quartet

Irredeemably speciesist?
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Definitely in team A...

...what we need to do next is play a game called Homesexuality poetry

so the first poet takes the first letter of Homosexuality to start the poem thus

Happiness

the next poet takes

o


and so on

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Belisarius
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Eh, too random. An Acrostic per poster would be more effective:

Happiness
Or
Maybe
Oppressed
Sustenance
Enduring
Xenophobia
Until
A
Liberal
Institution
Tokenizes
You

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Spike

Mostly Harmless
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quote:
Originally posted by Late Quartet:
Definitely in team A...

...what we need to do next is play a game called Homesexuality poetry

so the first poet takes the first letter of Homosexuality to start the poem thus

Happiness

the next poet takes

o


and so on


OK, As I'm in Team C I'm going to say

Orifice

So there

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Late Quartet

Irredeemably speciesist?
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Ah but Spike, as all in Team A will ensure, the rules keep changing ... for the better ... so acrostics it is, for the time being (heavenly ones of course--not throwing down a gauntlet or anything)

Happiness
only
makes
others
sense
ecstatic
xenophilia
unless
all
likely
interests
throng
Yorkshire-wards

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Late Quartet is cycling closer to Route 6 than Route 66 these days.


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starbelly
but you can call me Neil
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quote:
Originally posted by The Coot:
As a supporter of Team A I should like to share with you a poem I have written: 'Ode to my Sexuality', this I am performing while engaging in liturgical dance in a dark room lit with strange coloured lights.

*I choose to start the poem now.*

As it's a dynamic art form you'll have to take it on spec when I say it is beautiful, moving and poignant.


splendid, you are trying to move it Small Fire as well then!

Neil


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kingsfold

Shipmate
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quote:
Originally posted by Late Quartet
all
likely
interests
throng
Yorkshire-wards

So are we saying Yorkshire is hell? Can oyu justify that? (team C)

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I came to Jesus and I found in him my star, my sun.
And in that light of life I'll walk 'til travelling days are done


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Sarkycow
La belle Dame sans merci
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quote:
Originally posted by Late Quartet:
Ah but Spike, as all in Team A will ensure, the rules keep changing ... for the better ... so acrostics it is, for the time being (heavenly ones of course--not throwing down a gauntlet or anything)

Trust the happy-clappy-planet-christian-types to change the rules. Well as long as they're happy

Viki

(Team C btw)

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“Just because your voice reaches halfway around the world doesn't mean you are wiser than when it reached only to the end of the bar.”


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