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anglicanrascal
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Originally posted by HangerQueen:
Just to add a little more spice, here are some of the replies the Guardian received.
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These are magnificent! I haven't loved Americans so much since I watched Band of Brothers!
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Originally posted by anglicanrascal:
D'ya reckon that if I spam a few Yanks who post on here (RuthW, RooK, etc) and tell 'em to vote for Kerry, they will vote for Bush too?
I can assure you that no matter what you or anyone else does, it will not affect my vote in the American presidential election.
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Phos Hilaron
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And what's all this stuff about Brits and bad teeth?
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RuthW
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Originally posted by anglicanrascal:
D'ya reckon that if I spam a few Yanks who post on here (RuthW, RooK, etc) and tell 'em to vote for Kerry, they will vote for Bush too?
a) RooK isn't a Yank.
b) I wouldn't vote for Bush even if my life depended on it - because my liberty and pursuit of happiness already seem to be on the line.
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KenWritez
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Originally posted by Just Ruth:
I wouldn't vote for Bush even if my life depended on it - because my liberty and pursuit of happiness already seem to be on the line.
You're secretly attracted to him, aren't you?
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RuthW
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You're projecting, KenWritez.
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Neep
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Found this reply:
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Consider this: stay out of American electoral politics. Unless you would like a company of US Navy Seals - Republican to a man - to descend upon the offices of the Guardian, bag the lot of you, and transport you to Guantanamo Bay, where you can share quarters with some lonely Taliban shepherd boys.
Well isn't that nice? Some uppity little sod thinks that just because he gets a letter he doesn't want his country's military "elite" (excuse inverted commas) should come over to the Guardian offices and round them up for Legal Limbo.
The editorial team of the guardian seem to have removed the phrase "Yee-haw" from the end of this letter. Oh, has anyone heard of Tom Lehrer?
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Neep
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Originally posted by HangerQueen:
And what's all this stuff about Brits and bad teeth?
Typically we are caricatured with yellowing teeth sticking out at right angles to our faces. It could be a general opinion, or it could be to do with the historic Royal Navy, who acquired the nickname "limeys" when they were prescribed citrus fruit for scurvy, one of the symptoms of which is loosening of the teeth. The stereotype has probably worsened since our dental system got screwed up.
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Scot
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Originally posted by Ship's Meerkat:
Well isn't that nice? Some uppity little sod thinks that just because he gets a letter he doesn't want his country's military "elite" (excuse inverted commas) should come over to the Guardian offices and round them up for Legal Limbo.
If you tea-sipping pansy-asses hadn't disarmed yourselves, you wouldn't have to worry about casual invasion of your newspapers by political interns (Republican to a man!) pretending to be special forces operators.
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Moth
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Originally posted by Ship's Meerkat:
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Originally posted by HangerQueen:
And what's all this stuff about Brits and bad teeth?
Typically we are caricatured with yellowing teeth sticking out at right angles to our faces. It could be a general opinion, or it could be to do with the historic Royal Navy, who acquired the nickname "limeys" when they were prescribed citrus fruit for scurvy, one of the symptoms of which is loosening of the teeth. The stereotype has probably worsened since our dental system got screwed up.
On the other hand, we can laugh at American over-prefect teeth. I can't be the only one who turned the contrast down on my TV to see the Osmonds' rows of artificially white, straight choppers still visible through the gloom?
And just look at Barney the purple dinosaur - an American set of perfect white teeth in his smiling mouth. Very odd, if you think about it!
It is a bit sad that some people will put their kids through lengthy and uncomfortable treatment for cosmetic reasons. And that society should think the worse of them if they don't.
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mr cheesy
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It must be all the tannin from the cups of tea we drink, together with a severe dental reaction to marmite.
Why are you 'Mericanos getting so uptight about it? You could always just throw away the missive or reply in a suitable rude fashion.
When you stand before the Lord in glory and he says
'Why on earth did you vote for that loser, Bush?'
Are you seriously going to say
'Well, to be honest, some British $%$&*£"$^ sent me a letter telling me to vote for Kerry'?
Vote Kerry. Your eternal happiness depends on it.
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mr cheesy
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Correction, I should have said
'Why did you vote for that loser Bush?'
The Almighty is rather better at punctuation than I am, I suspect.
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If the British are this desperate to have a say in our politics, I think we should just make it official. Blair will be the first governor of the State of England.
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mr cheesy
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On the contrary, Erin. Kerry will become Governor General of the re-formed American colony. Don't worry, we do it to all our ex-colonies: grant them independance, encourage democracy, then tell them how to vote. It is a cunning plot and eventually they all realise how much better it was to be in the British empire in the first place.
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Cod
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Originally posted by Moth:
It is a bit sad that some people will put their kids through lengthy and uncomfortable treatment for cosmetic reasons. And that society should think the worse of them if they don't.
A few years ago my cousin had a brace which included clip-on plastic appendages which sat outside the mouth. It was all the rage in California.
Me; I am the classic Limey/Pom/whatever. I drink six cups of stewed tea daily, my teeth are brown, and I never get toothache. I ascribe this to the coating created by the tannin. I also own suits made out of natural fabrics, and which fit me.
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Originally posted by Scot:
If you tea-sipping pansy-asses hadn't disarmed yourselves, you wouldn't have to worry about casual invasion of your newspapers by political interns (Republican to a man!) pretending to be special forces operators.
Our special forces are harder than your special forces!
Ner-ner ner-ner ner!
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Laura
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Look: Duchess' future husband posted. How can she find this man?:
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Real Americans aren't interested in your pansy-ass, tea-sipping opinions. If you want to save the world, begin with your own worthless corner of it.
Texas, USA
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Phos Hilaron
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I love this thread. Can we have it made a sticky? It's the funniest thing I've read on the internet for ages.
Does anyone remember the Big Book of British Smiles from The Simpsons?
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Neep
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Originally posted by Sir George Grey.:
Me; I am the classic Limey/Pom/whatever. I drink six cups of stewed tea daily, my teeth are brown, and I never get toothache. I ascribe this to the coating created by the tannin. I also own suits made out of natural fabrics, and which fit me.
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Originally posted by Laura:
Look: Duchess' future husband posted. How can she find this man?:
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Real Americans aren't interested in your pansy-ass, tea-sipping opinions. If you want to save the world, begin with your own worthless corner of it.
Texas, USA
My dear lady, I guess you have not kept up with the TDA thread 411 on me. Don't you keep up on the latest gossip on the ship? You disappoint me. I thought you cared!
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duchess
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Originally posted by Sir George Grey.:
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Originally posted by Moth:
It is a bit sad that some people will put their kids through lengthy and uncomfortable treatment for cosmetic reasons. And that society should think the worse of them if they don't.
A few years ago my cousin had a brace which included clip-on plastic appendages which sat outside the mouth. It was all the rage in California.
Me; I am the classic Limey/Pom/whatever. I drink six cups of stewed tea daily, my teeth are brown, and I never get toothache. I ascribe this to the coating created by the tannin. I also own suits made out of natural fabrics, and which fit me.
Crest strips work fairly well matey.
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Laura
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Originally posted by HangerQueen:
I love this thread. Can we have it made a sticky? It's the funniest thing I've read on the internet for ages.
Does anyone remember the Big Book of British Smiles from The Simpsons?
I do. The dentist shows it to Bart after Bart says he flosses daily:
"Don't turn my office into a House of Lies!"
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ken
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All this passive-aggressive dental boasting from Americans is confusing me.
Look, if the seventh best-selling daily newspaper in a country about one sixth our size, that most of us find slightly tacky and old-fashioned (but a fun place to go for a booze-break) decided to voice an opinion about a British election, can you imangine how much fuss there would be from the Brits here?
That's right. None at all. Its not so much that we wouldn't care as that we wouldn't even notice. It would be well undereneath our radar.
Would be be offended if someone told us that the Sydsvenska Dagbladet of Malmo suggested that readers write to voters in Charles Kennedy's constituency? Do we get riled at Belgian opnions on Michael Howard?
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mr cheesy
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Oh I don't know, Ken. Belgium opinions on politics might be worth hearing. They have a lot going for them, the Belgians. Beer at 7 am, for a start.
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Neep
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The Guardian response page ( here, I think ) has a spread of opinions- I wonder whether this is proportionally representative, or whether they picked the two or three bits of positive feedback out of a mountain of vitriol (and people telling us we'd be speaking German but for ol' grandpappy...)?
It seems that it could be the people who were inclined to vote Democrat anyway that might think the campaign was a good idea, and both the Republicans and the undecided might react negatively.
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Cod
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Originally posted by duchess:
Crest strips work fairly well matey.
Thanks Duchess. But I don't want white teeth. It just wouldn't be right. Too pure. My teeth should be honest, and stained with original sin (or Taj Mahal Original, at any rate).
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Cod
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Originally posted by ken:
All this passive-aggressive dental boasting from Americans is confusing me.
Look, if the seventh best-selling daily newspaper in a country about one sixth our size, that most of us find slightly tacky and old-fashioned (but a fun place to go for a booze-break) decided to voice an opinion about a British election, can you imangine how much fuss there would be from the Brits here?
That's right. None at all.
Depends on the issue. I could see an almighty rucus if the Dutch launched a pro-Europe campaign for example.
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alienfromzog
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I've been reading the replies on the Guardian website. It's all quite sad really.
I happen to think that Kerry would be far better for the world at large than Bush but you'd think that the Americans would finally realise that getting rid of Bush is in their own interest. They should vote for Kerry out of selfishness!
Why?
Well it's like this;
The economy. The Clinton administration turned a massive deficit into a surplus. How? By carefully planning from the beginning. The reduction in a borrowing and thus in interest rates was worth far more to most middle class voters than any of the tax cuts that Bush has given and promised. Furthermore, under Bush the deficit is back with a vengence and unemployment is out of control.
Healthcare. I am a doctor (almost). I have seen the NHS at it's best and worst and I have seen medicine in various countries including Africa. I read the transcript of the last debate and I can tell you this; Bush knows nothing about healthcare. I don't know how good Kerry's plan is but given that the number of people not covered by health insurance (including children) has increased in the last four years having been falling significantly for the previous 8, it's not too difficult to work out.
That's just a couple of issues. It's incredible how upset some of these people have gotten both writing to the Guardian and on this thread. How can it possibly be a big deal for someone to express an opinion? I have no objection to someone suggesting how I should vote if they give me good reasons and if they accept that I will make up my own mind in the end and I don't have to tell anyone who I'm voting for if I don't want to.
I may be an ignorant Brit and have no right to interfere in American politics (according to one person who wrote to the Guardian, I could be arrested as a spy) but come on! I mean you have to wonder why the American people voted for Bush in the first place, and then you remember, they didn't.
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Erin
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Originally posted by alienfromzog:
I've been reading the replies on the Guardian website. It's all quite sad really.
I happen to think that Kerry would be far better for the world at large than Bush but you'd think that the Americans would finally realise that getting rid of Bush is in their own interest. They should vote for Kerry out of selfishness!
In case you haven't figured it out, we don't really give a flying fuck who you think our next president should be. In much the same way that none of you give a flying fuck who we think your next PM should be.
Jeez. It's not rocket science, people.
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A bit Purgatorial, I know, but are there any USA citizens who do care who the next UK prime minister is (irrespective of whether you'd actually do anything about it)? Why, or why not?
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I care that you get the Prime Minister =you= want, but only because I care that Great Britain is a well-governed country able to live in peace both at home and abroad.
Years ago, when I was in Greece, I joined in an all-night vigil to pray for the election of a new Greek Prime Minister. On the ticket were a Mason, a socialist, and a communist. The socialist won. He stayed in office for many years. Greece is still on the map.
I hope "There'll always be an England."
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Originally posted by Ship's Meerkat:
A bit Purgatorial, I know, but are there any USA citizens who do care who the next UK prime minister is (irrespective of whether you'd actually do anything about it)? Why, or why not?
I would guess that (in private, if not in public) Kerry and Bush both have their preferences.
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Phos Hilaron
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Originally posted by Erin:
If the British are this desperate to have a say in our politics, I think we should just make it official. Blair will be the first governor of the State of England.
Heck, you might as well. Then we can all vote for Hilary in 2008.
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Originally posted by Ship's Meerkat:
A bit Purgatorial, I know, but are there any USA citizens who do care who the next UK prime minister is (irrespective of whether you'd actually do anything about it)? Why, or why not?
No, don't care a hang. Who's their current prime minister, anyway?
No, no idea who's running, what the parties are, what's at stake, nothing about the British prime ministerial race whatsoever. (I have the impression Blair's on the way out, but that may just be because the Guardian is the only British rag I read.) And I don't see any reason to find out who their next PM will be. Had the British not joined us in Iraq...then we'd just have gone to Iraq without the British. *shrug* After all...we had Poland. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
[And trust me, ken, the "fuss" is mostly confined to SoF. No American I've talked to has heard of the Guardian, let alone its campaign.]
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alienfromzog, the latest US unemployment stats reveal a steady 5.4% figure, which is decidely not 'out of control', rendering the rest of your post suspect by association.
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Originally posted by HangerQueen:
Just to add a little more spice, here are some of the replies the Guardian received.
Thanks for the link. You might see "Berkeley, California" in the not too distant future. ![[Snigger]](graemlins/snigger.gif)
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I thought this was priceless:
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My dear, beloved Brits,
I understand the Guardian is sponsoring a service where British citizens write to Americans to advise them on how to vote. Thank heavens! I was adrift in a sea of confusion and you are my beacon of hope!
Feel free to respond to this email with your advice. Please keep in mind that I am something of an anglophile, so this is not confrontational. Please remember, too, that I am merely an American. That means I am not very bright. It means I have no culture or sense of history. It also means that I am barely literate, so please don't use big, fancy words.
Set me straight, folks!
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i've been staying off this thread like poison, partly because i don't need the agravation, partly because i thought it was a tempast in a teapot, since i hadn't heard anything about it anywhere else.
however, its just made cnn so now everybody's going to hear about it.
stupid, stupid assholes. ![[Mad]](angryfire.gif)
in a race this tight, this may have just given bush the edge.
idiots. absofuckinglutly imbicilic idiots.
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partly because i thought it was a tempast in a teapot,
saw my name and then realised it wasnt me... ![[Angel]](graemlins/angel.gif)
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The Riv
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CNN continues to enjoy a decreasing viewership. If any of the mainstream Media were going to have an exposure impact, CNN would certainly manifest the least.
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Had fun reading the replies. I wondered how many times the phrases "would be speaking German if it weren't for us", "chestnuts out of the fire" and "bad teeth" would all be used and I wasn't disappointed.
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Originally posted by Ship's Meerkat:
A bit Purgatorial, I know, but are there any USA citizens who do care who the next UK prime minister is (irrespective of whether you'd actually do anything about it)? Why, or why not?
When looking for a new lapdog, do you want one that's already housetrained or one you will have to train yourself?
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mousethief
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Originally posted by The Riv:
CNN continues to enjoy a decreasing viewership. If any of the mainstream Media were going to have an exposure impact, CNN would certainly manifest the least.
CNN, being the most liberal of the main non-print news outlets in this country (aside from NPR), is the one least likely to be watched by the sort of idiots who would vote for Bush just because a bunch of foolish Brits asked some people in Ohio to vote for Kerry.
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And what's all this stuff about Brits and bad teeth?
As stereotypes go, it seems about on a par with insisting that all Americans wear stetsons and call one another "pardner".
And now, if you'll excuse me, I'm off to my castle to drink some tea.
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The Riv
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Originally posted by The Riv:
CNN continues to enjoy a decreasing viewership. If any of the mainstream Media were going to have an exposure impact, CNN would certainly manifest the least.
CNN, being the most liberal of the main non-print news outlets in this country (aside from NPR), is the one least likely to be watched by the sort of idiots who would vote for Bush just because a bunch of foolish Brits asked some people in Ohio to vote for Kerry.
I don't disagree with you, MT. My point, was that CNN's audience is just plain small.
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My point, was that CNN's audience is just plain small.
True since there's not much market in this country for liberal media. Pace what some have averred.
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The story is also in today's New York Times.
A kind word for those of you who still think this a good idea:
You are lazy and ignorant--as President Bush has shown, these qualities are dangerous when combined with an impulse to act. If you had the initiative to do a little research into Ohio, you would know that the state has "closed primaries." This means that only voters who have declared an affiliation with a political party are permitted a vote in that party's primary election. Anyone declaring themselves "independent" has chosen to forgo any say in selecting the candidate of either party (and this is a two party system, to all intents and purposes). There are a many of reasons why people make this self-limiting choice, but common among these are that they see political parties as corrupt and themselves as "rugged individuals" acting independently of outside influence.
Just the sort of people who are likely to respond extremely negatively to random contacts from foreigners attempting to direct their voting.
And the Guardian chose only registered independents to include on its mailing list.
A little research, a few moments of googling are all that's required, would reveal to you that most of these registered independents already intend to vote for Bush or Kerry. Only a tiny minority are undecided. What sort of people do you think these voters are? Do you imagine that they are broadly familiar with geography, history and current events and are evaluating the propaganda from the Democrats and Republicans on the basis of that extensive knowledge? Do you suppose that a little bit of additional data from a concerned citizen of the UK will be all they need to tip their vote in the desired direction?
Anyone with the temerity to actually write to a Clark County registered independent as part of the Guardian campaign might do well to read a little bit about the history and culture of Ohio as part of their preparation. Evidently, Antonia Frasier and Richard Dawkins did not, or they would not have written the clumsy, inflammatory letters that they shared with the Guardian.
Ogden Nash, for God's sake! What the fuck was she thinking?
You think that you are thoughtful and clever, but you are lazy, ignorant and very, very stupid. Not many people would cast their vote one way just to spite some jackass who sent them a note telling them to vote the other way, but if you wanted to find that tiny group of people, looking for undecided independents in Ohio would be a pretty good start.
If Bush wins again, I will hold you personally responsible, you degenerate fuckwits.
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jerry:
once again i am reduced to this:
i'm starting to wonder if maybe its a lack of knowledge of american history on british part. i mean, judging by sophs post in heaven, its not taught much.
do you people realize that we fought a long and bloody war for independance from you, and another one in 1812, and this practically defines our national mythology???
and now you want to tell us how to run our government, and who to elect? good god, people, its damn near enough to make _me_ want to vote for bush just for spite! ![[Eek!]](eek.gif)
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I can only apologise sincerely for the shrill and hectoring portion of my countrymen who have been indulging in this risible behaviour. And if it's any consolation, we all find Richard Dawkins* and Lady Antonia Fraser** utterly ludicrous too.
* Biologist. Knows a lot about how fish grow legs. Knows absolutely fuck-all about anything else. Is not in the least bit deterred from commenting on anything else by this.
** Socialite. Claims to be radical socialist, writes chocolate-box history books called "Dearest Darling Duchesses" and suchlike.
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