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Sioni Sais
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Originally posted by no prophet's flag is set so...:
It was mentioned to me that Barney Rubble has not aged well. What do you think of the hands?
He seems to have lost one finger entirely.
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Amanda B. Reckondwythe
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Originally posted by Brenda Clough:
But what comes out of his lips are (as Scripture suggests) very equivalent to what comes out of his other orifices.
Especially the one in front . . . oh, wait, nothing probably comes out of that one anymore. And I don't mean liquid waste.
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Ian Climacus
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Extreme vetting
Syrian refugees stopped. Citizens from several countries banned for 90 days.
Any news on what the replacement inscription on the Statue of Liberty will read?
[I'm not having a go at Americans btw; DT still has some way before he reaches the depths of our immigration system...]
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Stercus Tauri
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The statue of liberty was a gift to the USA from France. It has lost its meaning - they should take it back.
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If places T proposes to visit extremely vet *him*...
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--"Oh, Peace Train, save this country!" (Yusuf/Cat Stevens, "Peace Train")
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Dave W.
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Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
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Originally posted by Dave W.:
Oh for fucks sake. I'm quite confident Trump has not inspired his followers to read a book.
All I know is that sales of 1984 have increased. That doesn't mean the people buying it will actually read it. It can join the small selection of books his followers have on their book shelf, unread, that they say they know what it says and how it supports their political views. Like The Bible.
This is just too fucking stupid, Alan.
Having won the election, with their dear leader successfully installed in office and the hated opposition swept away, Trump's followers then celebrate by suddenly rushing to buy copies of a book that portrays the ultimate destruction of the human spirit by a totalitarian state?
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Golden Key
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I suspect the buyers are anti-Trump folks, plus people saying "wait a minute...", plus people who never read it and want to know what the fuss is.
I confess I've never read it, except for some quotes. Just how bleak is it? I'm kind of allergic to extremely bleak books, especially if there's no hope. (E.g. "Foucault's Pendulum".)
Thx.
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Golden Key
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I take it that means it's unremittingly bleak? If so, it stays on my "Uh, no, just no" list.
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Schroedinger's cat
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Originally posted by Golden Key:
I take it that means it's unremittingly bleak? If so, it stays on my "Uh, no, just no" list.
I would call it serious dystopian bleakness, and I didn't find Foucault's Pendulum particularly bad.
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Wesley J
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As far as I'm concerned, Trump can Foucault-ff.
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SC--Thanks!
Wes-- ![[Biased]](wink.gif)
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Honest Ron Bacardi
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If you want to get into the mindset, I wouldn't start with 1984 (which being good literature is always worth reading anyway). Start with Ayn Rand, probably "Atlas Shrugged".
Actually, scrub that. Don't read Ayn Rand. It's boring. Read some summary of her Objectivism by somebody else who has had to plough through the original. North American conservatism will lie gridded out before you.
The question of the modes of dereliction of the opposition to conservatism (cf. Orwell) is an interesting one too, but separate. Probably merits a separate mass hand-wringing, though I suspect covered elsewhere in part already.
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Originally posted by Ian Climacus:
Extreme vetting
Syrian refugees stopped. Citizens from several countries banned for 90 days.
Any news on what the replacement inscription on the Statue of Liberty will read?
[I'm not having a go at Americans btw; DT still has some way before he reaches the depths of our immigration system...]
It has been said that some US universities are advising staff from affected countries (who are legally in the US with appropriate visas) not to leave as they may not be allowed back in.
I've also heard it said (although with less solid verification) that there are some who have already left - for example to go to a conference - who have been prevented from returning to their families.
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Penny S
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I heard on the radio that Google has advised staff currently abroad to return at once.
If true, they've just moved off my don't use list.
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Originally posted by Doc Tor:
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Originally posted by Golden Key:
Just how bleak is it?
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If you only read the first 40% it's fine! It's about a guy who becomes woke and manages to snatch moments of joy in a harsh world - not too different to most YA post-apocalyptic fiction. You might seriously want to stop there if you're having a bad day.
For me, Animal Farm is almost as grim. Both are very powerful books.
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USA creates refugee crisis with invasion of Iraq. president trumpette now says refugees are someone else's problem.
"there's a war in our streets
and we're loading our minds
with the word self-defence
take someone's life for crossing over our fence
that's the freedom" (SOTW)
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Originally posted by Honest Ron Bacardi:
If you want to get into the mindset, I wouldn't start with 1984 (which being good literature is always worth reading anyway). Start with Ayn Rand, probably "Atlas Shrugged".
Actually, scrub that. Don't read Ayn Rand. It's boring. Read some summary of her Objectivism by somebody else who has had to plough through the original. North American conservatism will lie gridded out before you.
I read some of Rand's tomes in my distant youth...not sure I ever finished one, they really are quite mind-bendingly monomaniacal and tedious. AIR, Rand's "objectivist" philosophy was based on reality, and rejected anything that claimed to transcend reality or contradict observed facts. I'm pretty sure she would have been horrified by Trump, but she wasn't entirely consistent in her thinking.
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Funny you should mention "war in the streets" as Trump is using imaginary increases in urban crime as part of his justification for his draconian and fascist policies.
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Hamaseh Tayari, a UK resident who holds an Iranian passport, has been on holiday in Costa Rica with her boyfriend for the last week. She was due to fly back to Glasgow, where she works as a vet, this morning but was denied entry onto the flight because her flight went via New York and she would need a transit visa, which was revoked....
“I am destroyed. I did not know that I could cry for so long. It feels like the beginning of the end. How this is possible? I am really afraid about what is going on.”
Source
I can't find anything more to say beyond what is already in the link in my sig.
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Alan Cresswell
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Since Mr Trump and Mrs May are now BFFs perhaps she needs to get him to let UK residents through.
Except, she won't because she's doing all she can to pander to the racists who don't want people like that, foreigners with their strange names and letters after their name, in the UK either.
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Bishops Finger
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How long will it be, I wonder, before Jews and Gipsies are banned from entering The Land Of The Free?
IJ
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Eutychus
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Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
Since Mr Trump and Mrs May are now BFFs perhaps she needs to get him to let UK residents through.
Except, she won't because she's doing all she can to pander to the racists who don't want people like that, foreigners with their strange names and letters after their name, in the UK either.
According to the same site May, pressed by journalists, has refused to condemn this latest executive order.
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Bishops Finger
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Exactly. What's sauce for Pussygrabber is sauce for Wacky May.
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Penny S
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Could someone explain how he gets to be leader of the free world if that free world has no choice about him and has to knuckle under what not a majority of his own subjects has chosen? Looks remarkably like dictatorship to me.
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Dave W.
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Easy -
1. He's not the leader of the free world.
2. The world isn't being required to "knuckle under" in this instance. It's widely recognized that each country's visa policy is properly its own jurisdiction, regardless of how stupid, misguided, and vindictive that policy may be.
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Schroedinger's cat
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I have read Atlas Shrugged. Don't bother. It is very long and boring.
The US hasn't been the "Land of the Free" since some of the restrictions after 9/11. Trump is not the leader of the Free World - he is the dictator in a large and nuclear equipped country.
Interesting question form the Purg thread - could Trump get a second term? Or are his supporters as appalled by him as his opponents?
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Yes, it is time to drop references to "the free world" too.
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Reminds me a little bit of one of Colin Forbes' novels......
The Power
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Originally posted by Schroedinger's cat:
I have read Atlas Shrugged. Don't bother. It is very long and boring.
The US hasn't been the "Land of the Free" since some of the restrictions after 9/11. Trump is not the leader of the Free World - he is the dictator in a large and nuclear equipped country.
Interesting question form the Purg thread - could Trump get a second term? Or are his supporters as appalled by him as his opponents?
Depends if his opponents get up off their arses and VOTE. Always the bane of the left in this country. ("Left" such as it is.)
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Penny S
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I heard someone use the expression today. Or I wouldn't have mentioned it.
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Originally posted by Schroedinger's cat:
Interesting question form the Purg thread - could Trump get a second term? Or are his supporters as appalled by him as his opponents?
Dick Cheney. Dick. Cheney.
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Brenda Clough
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It is only one week (seven days!!!!) into the Groper in Chief's term. It is too soon to talk about his second term. [crosses self, avert signs, clutches crucifix]
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So apparently being only 6/11th of the people killed in the Holocaust is not enough to actually use the word Jew in a statement about Holocaust Remembrance Day.
CNN page here
Nah, they will just be able to keep that alt-right Nazi dude at bay those Republicans.
So what if he's in on national security discussions and the top general isn't. Nothing could possibly go wrong.
Incompetent Fascist Nazi loving ftards.
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molopata
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Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
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Originally posted by Schroedinger's cat:
Interesting question form the Purg thread - could Trump get a second term? Or are his supporters as appalled by him as his opponents?
Dick Cheney. Dick. Cheney.
Hmm. Positively surprised. But that was December 2015. The wonderful thing about the sudden election of a pariah is many people's ability to rethink their reality and bring it into line with the new perceptions at the centre of power. So if D.C. were to renew his statement this week, I would be much heartened.
More frighteningly though, it shows that the far right wing of G.W.'s administration is considerably to the left of DT.
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RuthW
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You might wish to read the thread in Hell with Dick Cheney's name on it.
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Thanks, Ruth. Have in the meantime. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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Tom Lehrer's retired now, of course (and nearly 90 years old), but, from his Wikipedia entry:
'Despite their topical subjects and references, the popularity of these songs has endured; Lehrer quoted a friend's explanation: "Always predict the worst and you'll be hailed as a prophet."'
IJ
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Silly strategy - there'd be nobody left to congratulate you. It's better to preach that it will all work out after all in the face of certain doom.
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Blessed are the strong, for they will tread the weak underfoot
Blessed are the rich, for they will become richer
Blessed are the perverts, for they will sexually assault
Blessed are those who close borders, for they will create terror which they will exploit for their benefit
Blessed are the bombs, for they will kill the innocent
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Blessed are those who have kin in power, for they shall make out like bandits.
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Bishops Finger
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Blessed are the MILLION-PLUS in the UK who have signed a Petition to Prevent Pussygrabber Polluting our fair land by His Presence!
We are going to need an awful lot of Pink Pussy Hats - Brenda, start knitting.....
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Penny S
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I've signed. And how very dare he lay down the rules for how he is entertained? I want to play the sovereign's private golf course! I don't want any talk about climate change!
Cue HRH: "I am so sorry, Mr President, but the weather has been so wet this year that the course is unplayable, and according to our Meteorological Office, is unlikely to be usable for the foreseeable future."
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Bishops Finger
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Is there a handy link to the petition? I thought I'd get one from a Certain Source, but no.
IJ
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Just search on petition parliament and up will come the "popular" ones running at the moment.
Latest figure is 1.25 million !
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Thanks! All done - the figure is 1,300,000+ now - and I've emailed my MP.
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