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Thread: Doctor Who: The Doctor is back! (Summer 2012)
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orfeo
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quote: Originally posted by Zappa: quote: Originally posted by Kelly Alves: Really? One week.
Wow ... we used to be about 6 months - 6 years behind ...
Actually, we're not even one week behind. The episodes have been popping up on iView at about 6am on a Sunday morning our time. One week is just if you wait to watch it on television...
Which I did this time around. I was very good and managed to avoid seeing anything about it all week. Although, really, the general arc was fairly obvious.
Things I loved: River. Absolutely, it was River. Things like her writing books and the Doctor manufacturing vases with YOWZAH on them are just loads of fun, and Alex Kingston can pull off the necessary shifts from mischievous to serious.
Also did enjoy the Angels being back to more like their Blinking selves.
And did also enjoy a lot of the emotional content. However, there were points where they overdid it. Slow motion falls with swelling music are a sign that you don't actually trust your script/actors. And to be honest, they've been laying on the "Amy and Rory love each other" material in a somewhat peculiar fashion for a number of episodes. Yes, sure, they are soulmates. But does that mean they need to express it like sentimental Hallmark cards at times? Sometimes it's convincing, sometimes it simply isn't.
I also didn't love the business with doors opening by themselves and lifts operating by themselves. Do we really need the angels to be doing that? And the Statue of Liberty business was really quite pointless.
A bit of a curate's egg, but it seems so MANY episodes are.
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orfeo
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Ooh. Just saw that Neil Gaiman is set to write another episode. Hooray!
Also saw that Mark Gatiss is doing another one. Somewhat less keen about that...
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Kelly Alves
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Gaiman rocks. There's a guy who can combine good old sci-fi flash with loving attention to character.
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Kelly Alves
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quote: Originally posted by orfeo: Slow motion falls with swelling music are a sign that you don't actually trust your script/actors.
THANK YOU.
(One more Doctor character gripe-- the name dropping. Arrgggh! The name dropping. You tell me, if you were at a party and someone other than a 1000- year -old Timelord were doing that, would you find it pretty? Personally, I don't care what the hell planet you come from, I'm taking my martini and seeking a different conversation.)
(Again, I Love Hiatus. )
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balaam
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quote: Originally posted by orfeo: Ooh. Just saw that Neil Gaiman is set to write another episode. Hooray!
Also saw that Mark Gatiss is doing another one. Somewhat less keen about that...
Gatkiss is doing two.
Others announced, Steven Moffat, two episodes. Neil Cross ans Neil Gaiman, one episode each. Two episodes TBA.
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orfeo
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Watching the Angels again.
Was wondering why on earth Rory would wander into that building. Then I realised: unlike Amy, Rory has never encountered the Angels before.
Neat, I thought.
But then a bit of Wikipedia research pointed out that he sorta kinda did, in 'The God Complex'. But not proper ones...
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Robert Armin
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Anyone tempted to buy this to fill in the long wait until the series recommences? (And is it only available in the States?)
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Kelly Alves
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Jesus wept.
(and fuck yeah, I 'd go to that game night.) [ 10. October 2012, 19:29: Message edited by: Kelly Alves ]
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Robert Armin
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Go on - you know you're tempted.....
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Tubbs
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quote: Originally posted by balaam: quote: Originally posted by orfeo: Ooh. Just saw that Neil Gaiman is set to write another episode. Hooray!
Also saw that Mark Gatiss is doing another one. Somewhat less keen about that...
Gatkiss is doing two.
Others announced, Steven Moffat, two episodes. Neil Cross ans Neil Gaiman, one episode each. Two episodes TBA.
That Neil Cross who did Luther and Spooks?! Ohhhh interesting. I like Mark Gatkiss in Sherlock and Gentleman but his Doctor Who stuff, not so much. Glad too see that Gaiman's back
Tubbs
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Dafyd
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quote: Originally posted by Robert Armin: (And is it only available in the States?)
I've seen that in the shops here, although with Matt's Doctor, Amy and Rory on the cover. [ 10. October 2012, 20:31: Message edited by: Dafyd ]
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angelica37
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It is available fro Amazon in the UK (and has just gone on my Christmas list )
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Dafyd
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The BBC has now released an unfilmed piece of script about what happened to Brian: Brian
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Robert Armin
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Watched the first 15 seconds of that clip. Schmalzy music, Doctor with his arms draped round Amy and Rory making emotional speech, Brian looking uncomfortable - I had to stop it or I would have vomited. Glad the BBC had the sense not to broadcast it originally.
-------------------- Keeping fit was an obsession with Fr Moity .... He did chin ups in the vestry, calisthenics in the pulpit, and had developed a series of Tai-Chi exercises to correspond with ritual movements of the Mass. The Antipope Robert Rankin
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orfeo
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quote: Originally posted by Robert Armin: Watched the first 15 seconds of that clip. Schmalzy music, Doctor with his arms draped round Amy and Rory making emotional speech, Brian looking uncomfortable - I had to stop it or I would have vomited. Glad the BBC had the sense not to broadcast it originally.
Yeah, except the first 15 seconds wasn't the unfilmed bit!
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Robert Armin
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I did wonder about that. However, I won't be going back to see the rest of the clip. While I enjoy trivia about true-Who, my appetite for nu-Who has limits.
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M.
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Can anyone answer a geekier-than-thou question for me? Do we know why some Timelords are happy to use names (Rassilon, Morbius, Romana) but some only use titles (the Doctor, the Master, the Corsair)?
And why some names are so secret (like the Doctor's, though possibly we are getting into the first question that must never be asked territory here).
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Dafyd
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quote: Originally posted by M.: Do we know why some Timelords are happy to use names (Rassilon, Morbius, Romana) but some only use titles (the Doctor, the Master, the Corsair)?
It's never been officially explained. All the Timelords seen actually on Gallifrey have names rather than titles, I believe; whereas the Master and the Doctor are largely operating outside official Timelord society. So the implication is that giving up their name is something a Timelord does when they go renegade. Morbius is a bit problematic for the theory but he started out trying to take over Gallifrey from within so he may never have considered himself a renegade. (Or it's not actually his name.)
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Eigon
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I saw the clip about Brian. I cried. It was a beautiful ending, harking back to Blink. I think Chris Chibnall is a very good writer, and Arthur Darvill read it perfectly.
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Pine Marten
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Seconded ![[Tear]](graemlins/tear.gif) [ 13. October 2012, 14:25: Message edited by: Pine Marten ]
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Schroedinger's cat
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quote: Originally posted by orfeo: quote: Originally posted by Robert Armin: Watched the first 15 seconds of that clip. Schmalzy music, Doctor with his arms draped round Amy and Rory making emotional speech, Brian looking uncomfortable - I had to stop it or I would have vomited. Glad the BBC had the sense not to broadcast it originally.
Yeah, except the first 15 seconds wasn't the unfilmed bit!
Yes, that bit was included, and very good. The extra bit could have done without the music, which was rather overpowering. But the scenes were stunning, and I would have liked to have seen them do that. I suspected that something of this nature might have happened, with or without the grandson.
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M.
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Ooh, Dafyd, thank you, good thought.
M.
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Dormouse
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I have to say I loved the PS bit. Yes, the music was a bit much, but I found it genuinely moving, and thought Rory narrated beautifully. Slight sob.
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Pine Marten
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Mine is Gormasmus and my previous Ship name translates as Demacrex, which I think I prefer...
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Hedgehog
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My Ship Name comes back as "The Mathematician"--which is about as accurate for me as the Meddling Monk being a monk.
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vascopyjama
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I'm a bit worried about my renegade status...
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Thinks for a minute.... Perhaps the site is not serious. My Niece is now Craig.... [ 15. October 2012, 13:41: Message edited by: vascopyjama ]
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Dormouse
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You should worry - my renegade TimeLord name comes out as The Trouser Meddler!
However, much nicer, my RL name comes out as The Liberator!
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Robert Armin
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My Shipname comes out as "The Seer". I can live with that!
On the other hand, my legal name is "The Liberator". Looks like I've got a lot to live up to.
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M.
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My real name comes out as Mr Why - wrong sex 'n' all - and my shipname comes out as The Mentor. Gratifying, perhaps, but less enigmatic, I feel.
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Schroedinger's cat
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My ship name comes out as "Manyetha" - which is great and very cool. My RL name comes out as "The Farmer", which is very tedious.
Call me Manyetha.
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Kelly Alves
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I ran the generator, and it gave me stupid stuff, so you know what? Fuck it. I'm Bunny With An Axe.
[WWF](Like I'm gonna let somebody else pick my name for me. Sheeeit.)[?WWF]
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balaam
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Strangely my ship name and wife's real name in the Time Lord name generator are the same. The two become one.
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Heavenly Anarchist
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Oh dear, I appear to be 'The Worm'. Not exactly alluring is it? My board name is far more celestial.
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The Revolutionist
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My name came out as "The Magician", which is odd, because I thought the Time Lords were supposed to be scientists. Though I suppose a renegade Time Lord who turned their back on science and embraced chaotic forces of magic would be an interesting character!
My ship name would in itself be quite suitable for a renegade Time Lord, I think...
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orfeo
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My real name came back as "The Surgeon". Clearly I outrank The Doctor.
Adding my middle name got "The Seer". And my Ship name translated to "The Eye".
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Eigon
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I appear to be The Administrator. Which makes an odd kind of sense.
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The Great Gumby
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quote: Originally posted by Robert Armin: On the other hand, my legal name is "The Liberator". Looks like I've got a lot to live up to.
Aha! So your real name must be The Great Gumby! (Or just possibly, an infinite number of potential inputs map onto relatively few outputs, but I'm discounting that possibility because it's boring.)
Alternatively, just Gumby returns The Administrator, and my real name gives me Upsilon. I think The Liberator is my favourite.
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Pine Marten
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I never come out as 'The...' anything. I just tried my RL middle name (which so happens to be the name of a recentish Companion of the Tenth Doctor) and it's Borosi. Hmmm...
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orfeo
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The fact that they even have "The Administrator" as an option seems damn weird.
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Penny S
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Gosh, I'm The Mind Controller (RL).
You will all forget that.
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Robert Armin
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quote: Originally posted by The Great Gumby: quote: Originally posted by Robert Armin: On the other hand, my legal name is "The Liberator". Looks like I've got a lot to live up to.
Aha! So your real name must be The Great Gumby!
Curses! I've been rumbled.
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Dafyd
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So - Romana gets The Venerator. Susan Foreman gets The Totax.
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Tubbs
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Tubbs came back as The Torax and my real name came back as Mr(s) Why.
Tubbs
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Ariel
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quote: Originally posted by Dormouse: You should worry - my renegade TimeLord name comes out as The Trouser Meddler!
So does mine. It's that or Omicrex, and I can't decide whether that's a brand of watch or an exclamation.
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Stumbling Pilgrim
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quote: Originally posted by Dafyd: The BBC has now released an unfilmed piece of script about what happened to Brian: Brian
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Marvin the Martian
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I have to say, Stumbling Pilgrim, your current .sig takes on a very different meaning in the context of this thread!
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I am in fact The Mind Controller! And you WILL be fanatcically devoted to the suitable duties and roles I shall deign to assign to you at a time that shall suit me. While you are waiting you can be making yourselves useful.
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LeRoc
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I admit that I'm not much into Doctor Who, but I really like this. My brother's in there somewhere.
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