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No hope Marvin, that's way too clear.
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I find it disappointing when people reply cogently to a post of Martin60 because it means there was probably a point in it somewhere. So instead of blithely scrolling past all his content it makes me wonder if I might have missed something worthwhile.
Oh well.
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Bless you Marv.
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Marvin the Martian
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Either engage with what I've said or shut the fuck up.
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Martin60
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MtM
I’m sorry you’re in a bad place mate. It’s not about me is it? It NEVER is. I responded as I did on the thread, because I couldn’t work out whether you were for real or not. And then I realised you were. Hence my “You’re so funny”, which really hit the spot didn’t it? Even if you don’t understand me, you do. You knew I was being … “funny”. How are we to manage this conflict? I’m not doing well here, feel a tad slitty eyed myself obviously, but I must lay down any counter-projection.
I’m sorry for mishandling my perception of your defence of selfishness if it’s not your actual position. If it is, then YOU do have a problem. We all do. Unless we lay our privilege down, we burn. And not in some Iron Age fantasy. The gain of equity and peace offsets any ‘sacrifice’. Real sacrifice is when we give when we have nothing left. You’d say loser’s talk? “You have nothing to lose”?
Your brother in adversity
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So, Marv, it's not hat he was rudely dismissing you, it's that you are not yet evolved enough to recieve his peerless wisdom. Maybe in the next lifetime, buddy. Namaste.
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Yep. Add "patronising wankbadger" to the list of ways he pisses me off.
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Martin60
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At first I thought we were in Limbo there Kelly. But Googling deeper, I think we're in Bolgia Nine of Maleboge, the eighth circle. What do you think?
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Originally posted by Martin60:
At first I thought we were in Limbo there Kelly. But Googling deeper, I think we're in Bolgia Nine of Maleboge, the eighth circle. What do you think?
I think you are are in a VERY deep hole.
I would suggest that you should stop digging, but personally, I like seeing your innards removed through your rectum, so carry on.
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Marvin the Martian
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Originally posted by Martin60:
At first I thought we were in Limbo there Kelly. But Googling deeper, I think we're in Bolgia Nine of Maleboge, the eighth circle. What do you think?
Sowers of Discord, eh? Referring to yourself perhaps?
See, I know what you're referring to with a lot of these comments, because believe it or not I'm a educated man. It doesn't piss me off because I don't understand it, it pisses me off because what the fuck is wrong with just saying what you think once in a bastard while? If you want to accuse someone of lying then sodding well say so, don't make some pretentious allusion to medieval literature.
I realise I've got more chance of plaiting soot than of convincing you to change your ways. But I'm finding this thread nicely cathartic, so it's all good.
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Thank God for that. And it wasn't your good self of course being accused by beam mine (circle 8, ditch 6), but mote herself.
And, Oh indeterminate state feline, I'm thankful for such tender consideration.
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Originally posted by Marvin the Martian:
Yep. Add "patronising wankbadger" to the list of ways he pisses me off.
Nearly choked on me popcorn with that one Marv.
Abuse expletives would be seriously curtailed were it not for masturbation, sexual intercourse, misogyny and now, intriguingly it seems, badgers.
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I like the word salad dressing Martin provides. Haiku to all of the unwashed leaves.
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Originally posted by rolyn:
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Originally posted by Marvin the Martian:
Yep. Add "patronising wankbadger" to the list of ways he pisses me off.
Nearly choked on me popcorn with that one Marv.
Abuse expletives would be seriously curtailed were it not for masturbation, sexual intercourse, misogyny and now, intriguingly it seems, badgers.
Cockwomble is also available.
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Martin60
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Is that the male of the species?
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Why will you not communicate in plain English ?
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Where would be the fun in that.
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Yes, but my beard is humble and I weep when I am struck by the tragedy of the SHATTERED perfume bottle - have you kept your brother ? Have you ascended unworthy ? Are you alright mate, because its always about Christ's gardening desires.
[ 24. May 2016, 20:57: Message edited by: Doublethink. ]
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As opposed to a henwomble? No?
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Leaves and fæces shall be distributed to the multitude.
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Originally posted by Doublethink.:
Yes, but my beard is humble and I weep when I am struck by the tragedy of the SHATTERED perfume bottle - have you kept your brother ? Have you ascended unworthy ? Are you alright mate, because its always about Christ's gardening desires.
Pure Iggy Pop. Great.
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Nutbush Finklestein
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Originally posted by Marvin the Martian:
Either engage with what I've said or shut the fuck up.
Scream at a rock, "Be a tree! Be a tree!"
Better if you need a tree to go find a tree.
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Originally posted by Mr Clingford:
I find it disappointing when people reply cogently to a post of Martin60 because it means there was probably a point in it somewhere. So instead of blithely scrolling past all his content it makes me wonder if I might have missed something worthwhile.
Oh well.
You've really got the right idea.
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Originally posted by Doublethink.:
Nutbush Finklestein
Of course you do. And ME. And MINE. It's all with HIM. None of us can.
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Kelly Alves
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Originally posted by Martin60:
At first I thought we were in Limbo there Kelly. But Googling deeper, I think we're in Bolgia Nine of Maleboge, the eighth circle. What do you think?
I think you're a chronic masturbator, and that plays out in your posting style. Any other questions?
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Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
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Originally posted by Martin60:
At first I thought we were in Limbo there Kelly. But Googling deeper, I think we're in Bolgia Nine of Maleboge, the eighth circle. What do you think?
I think you're a chronic masturbator, and that plays out in your posting style. Any other questions?
You are giving masturbation a bad name.
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mdijon
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Martin, I think many (albeit not all) of us enjoy aspects of your posting style from time to time. The comprehensibility is quite variable though. What really gets people wound up though is that when you are asked to explain you delight in being increasingly incomprehensible.
It's pretty obvious that this is a choice, that you often feel a bit superior about it and that you enjoy winding people up by being incomprehensible.
That and the self-righteous pacifism/champion-of-the-marginalized schtick are your main besetting flaws. And then occasionally the obsequious ever-so-umble stuff. And of course the wanking.
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TBH, he would give child abuse a bad name, were he to be accused of that.
Maybe his posting style is because he is only using his left hand, his other being otherwise occupied on spewing his discordant seed across his computer.
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Martin60
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Not at my age.
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Sort of sickening that Martin claims to be defending the poor and downtrodden while playing his incoherence games. If he cared about them, rather than using them as a perch for moral superiority he'd make arguments other people can understand.
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Originally posted by Schroedinger's cat:
TBH, he would give child abuse a bad name, were he to be accused of that.
Wow, that's a very low punch.
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mdijon
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Much too low for me to identify with. I'm happy to identify with the frank communication regarding posting style and coherence but don't feel I want to take it much further.
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Originally posted by mr cheesy:
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Originally posted by Schroedinger's cat:
TBH, he would give child abuse a bad name, were he to be accused of that.
Wow, that's a very low punch.
And disgusting. And disrespectful of abuse victims and survivors.
Never mind disrespectful of Martin, and slinging some really caustic mud.
Grow the hell up, SC. And apologize.
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Originally posted by Doublethink.:
Nutbush Finklestein
Thank you for the almost trip to the emergency room! I was eating a handful of peanuts when I read this and nearly choked on them. A good deal of coughing, spluttering, spitting half-chewed peanut fragments all over the dining room table...oh, mercy..."Nutbush Finkelstein"! If I had died, I would have died laughing.
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mdijon
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Originally posted by Golden Key:
And disgusting. And disrespectful of abuse victims and survivors.
But probably a sure-fire way of provoking a widely sympathetic response to Martin.
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Martin60
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SC's OK. Like me, like many here, has frailties. I'm part of the problem here. I'm amazed that one can go too far in Hell.
Palimpsest, mdijon, points taken. Honest. I'm a prat. Sorry. Thank you all.
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Originally posted by Palimpsest:
Sort of sickening that Martin claims to be defending the poor and downtrodden while playing his incoherence games. If he cared about them, rather than using them as a perch for moral superiority he'd make arguments other people can understand.
Except I don't think he is playing games. I think it's how he genuinelly, truthfully, communicates his responses. Whether that makes things better or not is another question. I've always just assumed Martin was wired a bit differently to most other posters.
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Sioni Sais
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Originally posted by Anselmina:
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Originally posted by Palimpsest:
Sort of sickening that Martin claims to be defending the poor and downtrodden while playing his incoherence games. If he cared about them, rather than using them as a perch for moral superiority he'd make arguments other people can understand.
Except I don't think he is playing games. I think it's how he genuinelly, truthfully, communicates his responses. Whether that makes things better or not is another question. I've always just assumed Martin was wired a bit differently to most other posters.
If only.
Martin60 has been hauled over the coals often enough for posting self-indulgent and pretentious crap and he has been tolerated because he can be much clearer.
Periodically he gets called to Hell or warned for this. It does little more than demonstrate the passage of time.
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Originally posted by Golden Key:
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Originally posted by mr cheesy:
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Originally posted by Schroedinger's cat:
TBH, he would give child abuse a bad name, were he to be accused of that.
Wow, that's a very low punch.
And disgusting. And disrespectful of abuse victims and survivors.
Never mind disrespectful of Martin, and slinging some really caustic mud.
Yeah, that's pretty fucked. Martin's tiresome, not evil.
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Originally posted by Sioni Sais:
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Originally posted by Anselmina:
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Originally posted by Palimpsest:
Sort of sickening that Martin claims to be defending the poor and downtrodden while playing his incoherence games. If he cared about them, rather than using them as a perch for moral superiority he'd make arguments other people can understand.
Except I don't think he is playing games. I think it's how he genuinelly, truthfully, communicates his responses. Whether that makes things better or not is another question. I've always just assumed Martin was wired a bit differently to most other posters.
If only.
Martin60 has been hauled over the coals often enough for posting self-indulgent and pretentious crap and he has been tolerated because he can be much clearer.
Periodically he gets called to Hell or warned for this. It does little more than demonstrate the passage of time.
This. He gives the impression he is trying to conduct the discussion like a guru, not participate in it as an equal. And his habit of calling people out by name to evaluate how their progressing drives me nuts. " Oh, X, you are so very close! Here is a flowery description of what you are thinking that is less than accurate/ flattering on examination. Perhaps someday you will see the truth, which I won't tell you but let you guess at. But here, let me shower you with personal flattery that has nothing to do with the conversation, just to keep you sweet."
GOD. Who died and made you my existential sherpa? Stop delivering analysis on what other people think and tell us what YOU think.
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Jesus loves me, this I know” of they don’t believe “Kelly loves me, this I know.”
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Originally posted by mdijon:
Martin, I think many (albeit not all) of us enjoy aspects of your posting style from time to time.
hmmm... must be an acquired taste. I'm not there yet.
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Originally posted by mdijon:
The comprehensibility is quite variable though. What really gets people wound up though is that when you are asked to explain you delight in being increasingly incomprehensible.
It's pretty obvious that this is a choice, that you often feel a bit superior about it and that you enjoy winding people up by being incomprehensible.
Yep. Which is why this thread is probably ill-advised as it only feeds whatever it is that Martin is gaining from his obtuse style choice.
quote:
Originally posted by mdijon:
That and the self-righteous pacifism/champion-of-the-marginalized schtick are your main besetting flaws. .
I share many of Martin's views (at least, as best I can glean them). Which makes this all the more irritating. It's one thing to have fun and games with annoying word play when you're chatting about chicken recipes or debating in klingon. It's another thing all together when you're talking about the poor, the dispossessed, the victims of war and violence-- as Martin often is. If you really believe the things you (appear) to believe, Martin, you should care about communicating them in a way that is clear and persuasive. Because when you're talking about the real abuse and terror of life, the desperate needs and suffering, the clever(ish) word play is just Not. Funny.
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Brava.
I think I hit on something in my last post. All this reliance on esoterica and pointing the conversation at other posters is just-- hiding one's self. And considering how long Martin has been a part of things here maybe some of us feel cheated at always facing a persona rather than a person.
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mdijon
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Originally posted by Martin60:
Palimpsest, mdijon, points taken. Honest. I'm a prat. Sorry. Thank you all.
And there's the obsequious ever-so-'umble stuff. Just communicate honestly and stop trolling - that's all the apology I would need.
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mdijon
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Originally posted by Anselmina:
I think it's how he genuinelly, truthfully, communicates his responses.
Two observations that go against this: firstly the increasingly incomprehensible responses when someone asks for clarification combined with the hints of enjoyment (suggesting he can turn the gain up on the incomprehensibility) and secondly the ability to communicate clearly once in a while.
And one prediction: that M60 communicates perfectly ordinarily when shopping for groceries.
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Yes, you are right. That was rather beneath the acceptable line. Apologies, total and heartfelt.
And Martin, I don't need you on my side, OK? I can totally fuck things up perfectly well without any help, as I regularly prove.
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I like Martin. He seems a kind person. Oh well.
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Originally posted by quetzalcoatl:
I like Martin. He seems a kind person. Oh well.
How can you tell that in this (highly convoluted) text medium?
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Originally posted by Mr Clingford:
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Originally posted by quetzalcoatl:
I like Martin. He seems a kind person. Oh well.
How can you tell that in this (highly convoluted) text medium?
You seem to be saying that writing is an opaque medium. Well, it can be, of course. But it is possible to relate to someone.
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I can't talk to you today; I talked to two people yesterday.
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