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Porridge
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Looks like Mourdock lost -- little to no chance of Republican control of the Senate.
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Porridge
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AAAAaaand . . . Obama wins Ryan's home state of Wisconsin!
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Mamacita
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People in some parts of Florida are still standing in line to vote. Could be another hour before the polls close.
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Autenrieth Road
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What media outlets are you-all watching?
I'm mostly on my smartphone, looking at sites for the New York Times, CNN, and Portland Press Herald (Maine). I'm at a party for Yes On One: Mainers United For Marriage. They've got all the TV stations on various screens around the room, but I've found a chair (very scarce here) in a corner so not seeing most of the TV coverage.
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orfeo
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Originally posted by Porridge:
AAAAaaand . . . Obama wins Ryan's home state of Wisconsin!
CNN hadn't called Wisconsin yet, but they've just done so.
PS They also gave North Carolina to Romney.
[ 07. November 2012, 03:05: Message edited by: orfeo ]
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Crœsos
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9:00 pm MST / 8:00 pm PST / 6:00 pm HIST
The polls are closed in all states except Alaska, although as has been noted there are still people standing in line waiting to cast their ballots at "closed" polling stations in many precincts.
North Carolina has been called for Romney, so the count now stands at:
- Obama 251
- Romney 206
- ??? 81
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orfeo
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I also gather that the Republicans haven't done well in the Senate AT ALL. The Democrats had more seats to defend than the Republicans, and yet it looks like the Democrats could even make gains.
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Dark Knight
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Originally posted by Porridge:
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Originally posted by Dark Knight:
Why can't those other issues be decided at other times? ![[Disappointed]](graemlins/disappointed.gif)
Are you serious? It's hard enough to get half the electorate to the polls for ONE election day. Now you want us to turn 'em out for 3 or 4? Never happen. Besides, running elections costs mucho moolah.
Dead right I'm serious. The system you have described is utterly idiotic.
And the refrain that elections are really expensive is based on nothing much. If you are efficient, you can do it several times a year like the Swiss. You just have to think about it, and be prepared to innovate.
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orfeo
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The relatively cautious CNN just gave Iowa to Obama. That's another 'battleground' he's held.
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Crœsos
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Iowa has just been called for Obama. That means that any of the three large states still outstanding (Florida, Ohio, and Virginia) would be sufficient for Obama to win. It also means that Romney would have to win all of these states, plus others, to win.
While writing this Obama won Ohio, deciding the election.
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Kelly Alves
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(big sigh)
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Ruudy
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Okay. Can we close this thread now?
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orfeo
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NBC and CBS have both called it, I gather.
(trying to watch across 4 Australian networks that are randomly referring to different American counterparts is quite interesting!)
EDIT: And now CNN.
[ 07. November 2012, 03:22: Message edited by: orfeo ]
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Carex
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Still counting in Florida and Virgina, but Obama is in a good position in both.
Oregon should also go for Obama before too long.
I don't know how many other states are left, but it looks likely that Obama will go over 300 votes.
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orfeo
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Alaskans! Don't forget all those other things you're supposed to be voting about, okay? ![[Biased]](wink.gif)
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Sober Preacher's Kid
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![[Devil]](graemlins/devil.gif) Where's moron? ]
moron, ohhh moron, I have nice big slice of Humble Pie for youuuuu! Bon appetite! ![[Snigger]](graemlins/snigger.gif)
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LeRoc
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Congratulations!
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Imaginary Friend
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Thank fuck for that.
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Timothy the Obscure
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It appears that more than half of American voters are not insane...
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comet
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quote:
Originally posted by orfeo:
Alaskans! Don't forget all those other things you're supposed to be voting about, okay?
damn judges....
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Dark Knight
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Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
(big sigh)
Relief? Depression? Meh?
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jedijudy
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Tears of Joy!!!!! ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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Welease Woderwick
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The BBC have declared Obama re-elected so I suppose it is now official.
...and the economies of the world breathe a sigh of relief!
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[soapbox]
despite the system working for me this time, I still really, really detest the electoral college. I know MANY people who chose not to vote because it makes no difference with the electoral college. pisses me right off. We need to stick with the popular vote.
have to vent that at least once every four years.
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Crœsos
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The Romney campaign is now refusing to concede the loss of Ohio.
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Pigwidgeon
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Originally posted by jedijudy:
Tears of Joy!!!!!
Me too! I mean, it's my allergies, yea, that's it.
![[Yipee]](graemlins/spin.gif)
(Unfortunately, Arizona seems to be as red as ever, and even the Sheriff-from-Hell seems to be winning... again.)
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Tortuf
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I don't want to mess anything up but . . . It looks like Obama is going to win.
Yes
Yes
Yes
And several more Yes's.
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Gee D
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Originally posted by jedijudy:
Tears of Joy!!!!!
Yes, indeed. What a relief - and a good, solid majority as well. Much better than the forecast of just over the line.
Good also to see very solid defeat for those 2 Republican Senate candidates, who made such stupid and offensive comment about rape. The swing to their Democrat opponents is particularly satisfying.
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Dark Knight
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Originally posted by Crœsos:
The Romney campaign is now refusing to concede the loss of Ohio.
I hear even FOX has called Ohio for Obama.
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Nicolemr
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*happy sigh*
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Sober Preacher's Kid
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quote:
Originally posted by Dark Knight:
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Originally posted by Crœsos:
The Romney campaign is now refusing to concede the loss of Ohio.
I hear even FOX has called Ohio for Obama.
The Fat Lady is well into her aria then....
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Dark Knight
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Originally posted by Sober Preacher's Kid:
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Originally posted by Dark Knight:
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Originally posted by Crœsos:
The Romney campaign is now refusing to concede the loss of Ohio.
I hear even FOX has called Ohio for Obama.
The Fat Lady is well into her aria then....
Good point. Do you think Rush Limaugh is likely to belt out a few bars?
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Crœsos
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quote:
Originally posted by Dark Knight:
quote:
Originally posted by Crœsos:
The Romney campaign is now refusing to concede the loss of Ohio.
I hear even FOX has called Ohio for Obama.
According to a report I just heard, the FOX network has called Ohio for Obama but the on-air talent is refusing to acknowledge this on air.
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Uncle Pete
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If the Electoral College (whatever that is) were abolished and the popular vote were the only criterion, as has been posited, it would seem that Romney would have won. I find the figures confusing.
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orfeo
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There are still a few states not called, but the way it's heading is that Romney won back 2 states that are often Republican anyway (Indiana and North Carolina), and didn't win a single one of the 'battleground' states (at least, the ones labelled that way by CNN, I haven't seen whether any other maps picked different states as key).
That's not good.
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orfeo
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quote:
Originally posted by PeteC:
If the Electoral College (whatever that is) were abolished and the popular vote were the only criterion, as has been posited, it would seem that Romney would have won. I find the figures confusing.
Most of California hasn't been counted yet. Commentators are tipping once the largest State is thrown in, Obama will have won the popular vote as well.
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ken
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Actual declared votes in Ohio are slightly ahead for Romney. Calling it for Obama depends on predicting results of districts not yet reported.
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Tortuf
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Ahem.
The moderately obese lady is dinging an aura.
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Crœsos
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The latest reports that I've seen show Obama currently has leads in Florida, Virginia, Colorado, and Nevada, so even if Romney manages to reverse Ohio he's still most likely lost the election.
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Pigwidgeon
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Originally posted by Sober Preacher's Kid:
The Fat Lady is well into her aria then....
Her aria is over, she's taken her bows, and exited the stage.
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Kelly Alves
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Originally posted by Crœsos:
The latest reports that I've seen show Obama currently has leads in Florida, Virginia, Colorado, and Nevada, so even if Romney manages to reverse Ohio he's still most likely lost the election.
Obama got Nevada??? Last I checked it was still red! Wow!
ETA He's chasing Romney in the popular vote! Also Wow!
[ 07. November 2012, 04:01: Message edited by: Kelly Alves ]
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ken
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Nevada seems quite well into the Democrat camp - unlike some other states.
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L’amor che move il sole e l’altre stelle.
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Nicolemr
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The new York Times called Virginia for Obama!
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orfeo
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quote:
Originally posted by ken:
Actual declared votes in Ohio are slightly ahead for Romney. Calling it for Obama depends on predicting results of districts not yet reported.
Which I think is fair enough. If you know which booths/districts the votes are coming from, you can see the trends in comparison to the last couple of elections. And demographics don't change that rapidly.
Time and again when I saw CNN (I think?) do comparisons between 2004/2008/2012 at the county level, you could see that Romney was making small gains compared to McCain in 2008, but they weren't nearly enough.
EDIT: And while I was writing this, the Ohio figures updated to put Obama ahead!
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Crœsos
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quote:
Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
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Originally posted by Crœsos:
The latest reports that I've seen show Obama currently has leads in Florida, Virginia, Colorado, and Nevada, so even if Romney manages to reverse Ohio he's still most likely lost the election.
Obama got Nevada??? Last I checked it was still red! Wow!
No one's been willing to call it yet, but the returns that have been reported so far show Obama by 54%-44% with 71% of the vote counted. So it's not decided, but it's leaning that way.
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Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
ETA He's chasing Romney in the popular vote! Also Wow!
Well, they've only just started counting votes in California, so that's not terribly surprising.
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quote:
Originally posted by PeteC:
If the Electoral College (whatever that is) were abolished and the popular vote were the only criterion, as has been posited, it would seem that Romney would have won. I find the figures confusing.
it IS confusing. and bizarre. it's based on history, pre-mass communication, when a certain number of people (based on population) from each state would cast a vote as representative of those people.
what does my head in, though, is that each state gives ALL their electoral votes for a candidate. for instance, in AK and our sissy little 3 votes, ALL will go for one candidate (in this case, Romney, no doubt. because I live in redneck wonderland). but if we come out 51-49, shouldn't we cast two electoral votes for one and one vote for the other? no, of course not. it's stupid stupid stupid.
my recent check shows the popular vote at a really neck and neck place - 49.1% for Obama and 49.4% for Romney.
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ken
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Majority in Ohio might be less than the number of provisional and disputed ballots - in which case final figures not for a week or two.
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L’amor che move il sole e l’altre stelle.
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Crœsos
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Obama has just been projected to win Colorado.
[ 07. November 2012, 04:12: Message edited by: Crœsos ]
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