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Originally posted by Gracious rebel:
Not exactly a movie, but a TV series I have just watched on DVD. It was shown last year on BBC 'Broken' starring Sean Bean as a Catholic priest in a gritty Northern setting.

Not an easy watch. There were days when I couldn't face watching another episode as I knew it would sting too much.

Realistic, messy, we see the priest, ministering to parishioners who find themselves in all sorts of tragic situations, while fighting his own demons. Absolutely amazing. As a portrayal of what it truly means (and costs) to try to offer genuine Christlike pastoral care in the real world, I don't think it has been bettered.

How did I manage to miss this when it was on TV last year? Anybody else seen it? What do the Catholics here think?

I'm not a Catholic.

I thought it was the best thing I saw last year. Massively moving and extremely powerful.

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All The Money In The World.

Saw it on the weekend. Yeah, it was good, though, in keeping with the general trend of Ridley Scott's recent output, wasn't exactly cutting-edge in either it craftsmanship or narrative technique.

And granted, this could be a bit of kneejerk film-snobbery, but I found myself thinking that Kevin Spacey would have been more interesting as J. Paul Getty. Christopher Plummer is actually an actor of rather limited range, and his performance seemed like yet another rendition of the same partician, corporate villain he played in Wolf, 12 Monkeys, Syriana, and Inside Man.

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Too bad Spacey's character doesn't seem to match his talent.

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I'm catching up on Disney! Bedknobs and Broomsticks. More than 30 years old, and dated, but quite entertaining.

Angela Lansbury, who plays the apprentice witch, has come a long way from the actress who featured in a book on "Broads". It must be an advantage not to be an ingenue or romantic lead - she has had a long-running career as a character actor - detective in "Murder she wrote", and also in theatre. And that's with multiple joint replacements.

I find cinemas' surround sound too loud, and am rarely around to watch films on TV, so rely on DVDs. Unless I'm at a friend who has catch-up - my TV is too elderly for that.

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Angela Lansbury is indeed amazing. Loved her small but effective role in the recent BBC version of 'Little Women' as Aunt March.

Back to 'Bedknobs and Broomsticks' which really does look as if Disney wanted to do 'Mary Poppins 2 - now with added Nazis!'. I grew up with 'Disney Time' on TV every Easter and Christmas, so must have seen that football match dozens of times. But my favourite part is 'Portobello Road'. Who knew multiculturalism was so easy? Just ask the Sherman Brothers to write a catchy tune and get everyone to do a dance number. Sorted!

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Black Panther.

All the discussion of the cultural/political significance aside, It was nice to see a Marvel film that wasn't loaded with cross-references and in-jokes.

Though I gather the next installment is gonna have the hero teaming up with The Avengers, so I guess that was too good to last.

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Phantom Of The Opera.

Yep, THAT one. Lon Chaney, 1925. Another one of those "I can't believe I didn't see this before the age of 49" entrants for me.

I guess both the film and Chaney's performance live up to their time-honoured reputation. He certainly was an expert at conveying voiceless emotion(a generally required talent in those days, though he was probably better than most).

I did find find the film somewhat LESS romatic than the Lloyd Webber treatment(which I'd wager is now most people's idea of the story). You get the impression that the Phantom really is just a creep, not someone you would dress up as when proposing to your girlfriend(yes, I have heard a credible story of someone doing that, dressed in the Lloyd Webber costume).

I don't know if I had ever before seen a black-and-white film tinted in the way that this one was. Plus, the Masque scene is in actual Technicolor.

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The Running Man.

I think this was the first time that I'd ever seen the whole thing in its entirety. "The Game Where The Players Die" does have an honourable enough pedigree(The Minotaur and all that), but I find it to be one of the more overused tropes in recent sci-fi, and I don't think it was much more original in 1987 than it is now.

Jabs at reality TV are both prescient, but for that reason, also a little stale by contemporary lights, since the rise of the genre has of course been accompanied by a rise in criticism of it("The Kardashians" now being short-hand for whatever aspects of pop culture that someone doesn't like). So that part of the storyline probably isn't as cutting-edge as it admittedly might have been in the late 80s.

Other than that, everyone does their job competently enough, especially Richard Dawson as a man-you-love-to-hate villain. Though, for true appreciation, it probably helps for that bit of casting to be a surprise. Which it probably isn't for most viewers now. (If they know who he is, which, if they don't, it's even less effective.)

[ 17. February 2018, 16:00: Message edited by: Stetson ]

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quote:
Originally posted by Stetson:
Black Panther.

All the discussion of the cultural/political significance aside, It was nice to see a Marvel film that wasn't loaded with cross-references and in-jokes.

Though I gather the next installment is gonna have the hero teaming up with The Avengers, so I guess that was too good to last.

Whilst the MCU maintains continuity and twists its story-lines through each other, I don't think it is completely accurate to say that the Avengers films are instalments in the individual character's own story-line.
Whilst it the film suffered from a few flaws that, I think could have been tweaked, it was easily one of the top Marvel films, and I think the best. It also deserves a top place in the pantheon of superhero films, regardless of who made them.

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I'm another one that saw Black Panther. Daughter-Unit, her dear hubby and I went together, and we really enjoyed it! The story was a good one for people like me who had never seen one of the comics. The fierce women were awesome!!!

Just a heads-up...there are two extras during and after the credits. Don't leave as soon as the movie is over!

I also saw The Shape of Water. I liked the film, but it was very odd. I don't think it counts as a spoiler to mention that it's a bit disturbing that the cleaning women were cleaning and cleaning, but everything looked dark and filthy. Let's just say, I wouldn't get in that tub!!!

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quote:
Originally posted by Gill H:
Angela Lansbury is indeed amazing. Loved her small but effective role in the recent BBC version of 'Little Women' as Aunt March.

Back to 'Bedknobs and Broomsticks' which really does look as if Disney wanted to do 'Mary Poppins 2 - now with added Nazis!'. I grew up with 'Disney Time' on TV every Easter and Christmas, so must have seen that football match dozens of times. But my favourite part is 'Portobello Road'. Who knew multiculturalism was so easy? Just ask the Sherman Brothers to write a catchy tune and get everyone to do a dance number. Sorted!

I remember loving Angela Lansbury as the (rather sinister) Grandmother in The Company of Wolves.
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quote:
Originally posted by jedijudy:


I also saw The Shape of Water. I liked the film, but it was very odd. I don't think it counts as a spoiler to mention that it's a bit disturbing that the cleaning women were cleaning and cleaning, but everything looked dark and filthy. Let's just say, I wouldn't get in that tub!!!

Yes, wasn't it strange?
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quote:
Originally posted by Stetson:
Black Panther.

All the discussion of the cultural/political significance aside,

Except, let us talk about this a bit.
The world building was amazing here. Not perfect, but better than any Marvel attempt so far.
The others are either pretty much our world with a few fantasy elements or complete fantasy. For Wakanda they needed to create a civilisation and ethos that did into exist, yet still blended with reality. And without being a cliché stereotype.
Add in strong, fierce women who were not dominated by the males and address cultural issues and current politics: this film is larger than the sum of its parts.

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Just got back from seeing The shape of water.
I thought it was an excellent film. hoping to see Black panther next Saturday.

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Also looking forward to seeing The breadwinner and Mary and the witchs flower- the latter made by studio ponoc who are Studio Ghibli alumni if not at the cinema then as soon as they come on dvd. also big fan of Makoto Shinkai.
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quote:
Originally posted by jedijudy:
it's a bit disturbing that the cleaning women were cleaning and cleaning, but everything looked dark and filthy. Let's just say, I wouldn't get in that tub!!!

A symbol of America's guilt?

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Originally posted by louis crandall:
Just got back from seeing The shape of water.
I thought it was an excellent film. hoping to see Black panther next Saturday.

I saw it on Thursday - a modern morality tale.

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Getting this in before the sinking...

Somewhat coincideantally, given subsequent events, I watched Dogma the other night, for the first time since it came out in '99.

I wasn't overly impressed with it the first time, and my opinion didn't change much upon a re-screening. There are some fairly amusing set-ups and runs of dialogue, but the overarching theology seemed derived from the plot-line of one of those ridiculous Catholic-themed horror films, like End Of Days. And at least those are usually redeemed by having cool visuals.

But credit to Kevin Smith for trying to grapple with religious themes in a youth-oriented ruanch comedy. Gotta go.

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