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Bishops Finger
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I really mean that, BTW. My sister lives in France, and one of the pleasures of visiting her is trying yet more of the local vintages (she's down in the bottom-right hand corner, in Aude).
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Brenda Clough
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I'm thinking of spending a year in France. Oh, and here's an exceptionally hellacious wedding. "Bonds was overseeing the wedding at a Chantilly park, while the 35-year-old victim, Tyonne Johns, of the District, was catering it. Afterward, the pair and members of the wedding party got into a verbal argument over chairs while cleaning up. It ended with Bonds stabbing Johns with a three-inch pocket knife." He's been acquitted, however.
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mark_in_manchester
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quote: The only bit that broke through the monotony with a helping of distinct annoyance was in the series “my girlfriends”
For a great moment I thought we were talking about illustrations for the Groom's speech. Now that would have style.
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la vie en rouge
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quote: Originally posted by mark_in_manchester: quote: The only bit that broke through the monotony with a helping of distinct annoyance was in the series “my girlfriends”
For a great moment I thought we were talking about illustrations for the Groom's speech. Now that would have style.
Nah. The groom was a definite side-show to the Bride’s Big Day™. We had dinner a couple of days ago with someone else who was also there and he agreed that in order of visibility, the cast was made up of (1) Bridezilla (2) Bridezilla’s large Southern family and trailing way behind (3) Groom. Groom’s family were made so invisible as to be hardly worth a mention. Essentially there was a groom because Bridezilla couldn’t have a wedding without one.
That said, apparently marrying oneself is now a thing. Why do I suspect most of the people doing it are women? [ 06. October 2017, 07:58: Message edited by: la vie en rouge ]
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Sioni Sais
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quote: Originally posted by la vie en rouge:
That said, apparently marrying oneself is now a thing. Why do I suspect most of the people doing it are women?
Poor thing couldn't find a frog.
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quote: Originally posted by la vie en rouge: That said, apparently marrying oneself is now a thing. Why do I suspect most of the people doing it are women?
More men are happy to self-cohabitate WBOC. They don't need a fancy ceremony to self-love. They have that well in hand.
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Gee D
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I'm waiting for the Guardian article on it, how it's the coming thing etc.
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Eutychus
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I'm preaching at a wedding tomorrow. Should I get LVER to come and "mystery guest" it?
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Eutychus
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I have no idea: my responsibilities stop at the lectern!
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la vie en rouge
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In that case I shall have to decline just in case. Two of the sweet claggy suckers in the space of a week is more than I can stand.
(Pičce montée is a bit like the French equivalent of turkey at a British Christmas dinner. Everyone insists on having it despite the fact that almost no one actually likes it.)
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Dark Knight
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I am off to a wedding I don't particularly want to go to tomorrow. I no longer drink, and I have no assurances that there will be dancing at the reception. I cannot even.
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Sioni Sais
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quote: Originally posted by Dark Knight: I am off to a wedding I don't particularly want to go to tomorrow. I no longer drink, and I have no assurances that there will be dancing at the reception. I cannot even.
Enjoy the slideshow.
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Marvin the Martian
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quote: Originally posted by la vie en rouge: (Pičce montée is a bit like the French equivalent of turkey at a British Christmas dinner. Everyone insists on having it despite the fact that almost no one actually likes it.)
I like turkey.
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L'organist
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Depends on the pičce montée, LVER: a croquembouche can be lovely and despite looking pretty spectacular is really very easy to make.
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Eutychus
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quote: Originally posted by Sioni Sais: Enjoy the slideshow.
Is France the only country in which a slideshow of the bride and groom growing up to the theme of The Persuaders is practically mandatory at the reception?
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Gee D
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Good free-range turkey is very enjoyable, very adaptable to a wide ranges of dishes and cuisines.
As to the croquembouche - very popular here as it's easy to serve, proportions easily variable and makes an acceptable end to a meal.
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Sioni Sais
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quote: Originally posted by Eutychus: quote: Originally posted by Sioni Sais: Enjoy the slideshow.
Is France the only country in which a slideshow of the bride and groom growing up to the theme of The Persuaders is practically mandatory at the reception?
The theme may vary.
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quote: Originally posted by Eutychus: Is France the only country in which a slideshow of the bride and groom growing up to the theme of The Persuaders is practically mandatory at the reception?
May it please God to stay so.
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Dark Knight
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quote: Originally posted by Eutychus: quote: Originally posted by Sioni Sais: Enjoy the slideshow.
Is France the only country in which a slideshow of the bride and groom growing up to the theme of The Persuaders is practically mandatory at the reception?
Is that what Sioni meant? Is that really a thing? I have never seen such a thing. I hope never to see such a thing.
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The last wedding I went to there were Morris dancers: I don't think the music was the Persuaders...
I do however now have that as an ear worm, which feels pretty hellish.
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mark_in_manchester
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quote: Is France the only country in which a slideshow of the bride and groom growing up to the theme of The Persuaders is practically mandatory at the reception?
Eerrghh. Not seen that, but I did attend a 'humanist celebration' at which two pretty glass jars of different (rather vibrantly) coloured sand were poured into one.
Beside being a rather eloquent demonstration of entropy, it also struck me as a compact and timely treatise on the futility of compromise; the eurky mix being an outcome no-one really wanted.
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cliffdweller
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quote: Originally posted by mousethief: quote: Originally posted by Eutychus: Is France the only country in which a slideshow of the bride and groom growing up to the theme of The Persuaders is practically mandatory at the reception?
May it please God to stay so.
Particularly awkward when there's a large age gap so you end up with a photo of a 30 something guy next to a toddler
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Eutychus
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Video with Persuaders theme: tick
Pičce montée: tick
But a good time was had by all.
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Ariston
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quote: Originally posted by Dark Knight: I am off to a wedding I don't particularly want to go to tomorrow. I no longer drink, and I have no assurances that there will be dancing at the reception. I cannot even.
In my college days, went to the Southern Baptist wedding of a high school friend. Well, bride's sister was a friend. I was mostly there for drinks and dancing. Mostly dancing.
First sign things were going off the rails: minister sped through "love is patient, love is kind" en route to "wives, submit to your husbands." Slowed waaaaayyyy down there.
Next sign: no dance floor. That's okay, I assume we'll just move some tables aside once the Obligatory Concrete Wedding Cake* is cleared away.
Next next sign: groom's fraternity brothers assemble for a presentation to the bride. "Whenever one of us did something special, we'd give him a bottle of cream soda. So now, Andromache, we'd like to welcome you . . ." And they all file up with bottles of cream soda. I turn to Sister. "Cream soda's a euphemism, right?" "It was a Baptist fraternity. That's cream soda." " . . . Baptists don't dance, either?" "Nope."
*And la Vie, I'll trade you you piece montée for an American three-tiered wedding cake. In order to support the weight of the upper tiers, the lower ones have to be sufficiently strong, it has to look Perfect for sitting out during the soft jazz photo montage (and prior setup), the fondant decorations can't show the slightest sign of damage or deterioration during transit, setup, or waiting . . . meaning you get something built more for structural integrity than taste. Dry, tough, and bland interior with rock hard icing. You're supposed to save a tier and "enjoy" it on anniversaries—and it's a sort of cake that doesn't taste any worse after a year or two in the freezer.
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Bishops Finger
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We have 'Wedding Cakes' like that in Ukland.
Very expensive ŁŁŁ too.
After a year or two, you can collect various bits together, and build a shed that will survive the onslaughts of cockroaches and/or a nuclear holocaust.
IJ
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Bishops Finger
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If it's by Huntley & Palmers, it will indeed still be edible.
Well, the CAKE bit, anyway - not too sure about the icing...
IJ
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North East Quine
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The tradition here is to keep the top tier of the wedding cake for the first christening. Our cake was 5 1/2 years old before our first-born was christened. The icing had to be re-done, but the cake itself was fine. I've eaten older wedding-turned-christening cakes than that.
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Pigwidgeon
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A couple I knew saved the top tier of their cake for their First Anniversary. They lived in a small apartment with a tiny refrigerator and a freezer just big enough to hold the tier of cake. So for a year, they could never buy frozen groceries in advance of eating them, nor could they freeze leftovers. The First Anniversary came along -- the top tier had been made of Styrofoam.
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ArachnidinElmet
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Keeping tiers in the UK works pretty well because they tend to be fruitcake which keeps better because you feed it with ALCOHOL.
Are the frozen tiers in US cakes maybe sponge?
My Mum was tasked with re-icing a friend's wedding cake (baked by her Gran) for her daughter's christening. It turned out to be booze-less and therefore green and mouldy One mercy dash to the supermarket for a half dozen Dundee cakes and no one was the wiser.
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mark_in_manchester
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quote: "It was a Baptist fraternity. That's cream soda." " . . . Baptists don't dance, either?" "Nope."
I once went to a Baptist wedding (or it might have been free evangelical - I forget) where pretty much everyone was a Believer...except the best man.
Come the best man's speech, he starts with a few bland compliments to the bridesmaids, as you do, and then...
quote: Anyway, a bloke goes into a greengrocers, and behind the counter is this woman with enormous tits.
Cue utter silence, tumbleweed in the aisles, and frantic stifled gasps of manic laughter from those of us around a slightly less up-tight table. I'll give you the rest of the joke, 'cos it's a good one.
quote: So he says, 'I'd like a pound of tits / I mean a pound of oranges please', and the woman hands him a bag of oranges.
Later that night he's in the pub with a couple of mates. 'A weird thing happened this morning - I was in the greengrocers and I tried to ask for a pound of oranges. But instead, I asked for a pound of tits!' [yes folks. If it were possible, the silence deepens each time the fateful word is uttered].
One of his mates pipes up. 'You know that's what's called a Freudian Slip.'
'What's one of them, then?'
'It's when you say what's really on your mind, instead of what you thought you were going to say'.
At this, the second drinker pricks up his ears.
'Funny that - that happened to me just this morning. I was sitting at breakfast with the missus, and I went to ask her to pass the salt. But instead, I said "I hate yer, yer bitch, you've ruined me life"'.
He kept going, too. What a pro.
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Bishops Finger
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Most seemly and edifying.....not!!
IJ
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Eutychus
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Well if we're into anecdotes... I was once at a wedding performed by a pastor who was really more of an evangelist.
Guests were greeted at the venue by a giveaway gospel of John. The reading was the story of the woman at the well in John 4, and the pastor took as his text verse 18:
quote: you have had five husbands, and the man you now have is not your husband
The fact that he somehow went on from this to deliver an evangelistic message instead of doing anything remotely related to the occasion was probably a relative mercy, but guests could clearly be seen eyeing up escape routes.
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Sioni Sais
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quote: Originally posted by Eutychus: Well if we're into anecdotes... I was once at a wedding performed by a pastor who was really more of an evangelist.
Guests were greeted at the venue by a giveaway gospel of John. The reading was the story of the woman at the well in John 4, and the pastor took as his text verse 18:
quote: you have had five husbands, and the man you now have is not your husband
The fact that he somehow went on from this to deliver an evangelistic message instead of doing anything remotely related to the occasion was probably a relative mercy, but guests could clearly be seen eyeing up escape routes.
There's an excuse for that: he should have cited 1 John 4:18 (ie, the first epistle, not the Gospel) which reads "There is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with punishment. The one who fears is not made perfect in love."
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L'organist
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Not my anecdote but...
Organist friend was asked to play for nuptials in a hospital chapel and was happy to oblige, although found the fact that the chapel was in the basement betwixt the morgue and the boiler room a tad off-putting (vibrations when the boiler kicked in made the candles on the altar shudder).
Anyway, come the happy day this ancient looking cleric appears, leaning heavily on a stick, fiddling with his hearing aids and giving every appearance of being Mr Chips' older brother.
Service starts: bride enters, first hymn; then cleric booms out Man, that is born of a woman, hath but a short time to live, and is full of misery. At which point the best man (never was a chap so well-titled) leant over, wrenched Prayer Book from the hands of cleric, swiftly found the Order for the Solemnisation of Matrimony, and handed it back.
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SvitlanaV2
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quote: Originally posted by mark_in_manchester: I once went to a Baptist wedding (or it might have been free evangelical - I forget) where pretty much everyone was a Believer...except the best man.
Come the best man's speech, he starts with a few bland compliments to the bridesmaids, as you do, and then...
I'm surprised the groom in question didn't know his best man well enough to think he might tell a 'funny story' of this type ... and warn him against doing so.
Maybe it's just me, but I'm not convinced that the average bride, Christian or otherwise, would find this joke hilarious. Still, maybe it gave the couple a tale to tell at boozy dinner parties many years later. OTOH, if the joke turned out to be prophetic, who'd want to remember it? [ 09. October 2017, 19:01: Message edited by: SvitlanaV2 ]
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Re saving tier of wedding cake:
I don't know what the current trends are. But it used to be common for the top tier to be small, and inhabited by standing figures representing the bride and groom. (Some made of sugar or fondant, and some maybe made of plastic.)
That tier would be wrapped up, and kept in the couple's freezer until their first anniversary. Then it would be either completely eaten, or partly eaten and the rest saved for future anniversaries.
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I had a traditional (yummy) fruitcake for the top layer, and pound cake for the part that was consumed at the time. The top layer, being well fortified, thus kept very well.
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My wedding cake was a sheet cake (chocolate!), so there were no tiers (cake, fruitcake, or Styrofoam) to preserve.
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quote: Originally posted by Golden Key:
I don't know what the current trends are. But it used to be common for the top tier to be small, and inhabited by standing figures representing the bride and groom. (Some made of sugar or fondant, and some maybe made of plastic.)
I know we had tiers, and I think there were three of them, although I'd have to go and look at the photographs to check. One of the ladies from Mrs. C's church made a custom cake topper to look like us, which we still have. (A different church lady made the cake.)
I don't know whether we saved some of the cake or not - but it certainly didn't go in our freezer because we didn't have one. It's entirely possible we ate it for Christmas.
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Well, if we're going to talk about cake - count me in.
Instead of a singular wedding cake, I arranged for my favourite restaurant in the universe to provide my favourite dessert in the universe - a chocolate cheesecake (no longer available!!!). It was such an intense gustatory experience that it felt like the chocolate bypassed the usual absorption methods and went straight through the soft palate and into your brain. I assume that it was equal parts cocoa, cheesecake, and cocaine (perhaps explaining why it is no longer offered).
Note to self: family is overdue for a visit to Victoria.
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My Mum made our wedding cake, my Dad iced it and I made the sugar flowers. We had three cakes directly on top of each other, smallest on top, no pillars - most unusual in 1979 🙂
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Nick Tamen
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quote: Originally posted by ArachnidinElmet: Are the frozen tiers in US cakes maybe sponge?
Yes, traditionally a white cake (no egg yolks), though I have been to numerous weddings (including my own) where the consistency of the cake was closer to a pound cake than a standard white cake.
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My father-in-law would have preferred one of these or one of these, but as he got married in the 1950s he was forced to eat cake.
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Bishops Finger
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Wow. How glad I am that I'm not likely ever to be married (again).
Trying to choose between PORK PIE and CHEESE....
Mmmmm......[drooly smiley]
IJ
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Ariston
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quote: Originally posted by ArachnidinElmet:
Are the frozen tiers in US cakes maybe sponge?
Not so much "sponge cake" but "washing up sponge."
I've yet to see a bit of fruitcake in an American cake. Then again, we traditionally think of fruitcake as only for Christmas, obligatory (compare British attitudes on turkey), and booze-free. Think there might be room for improvement.
(There was much rejoicing when one musician friend skipped the cake and did pie and cheesecake on tiers. No structural integrity to maintain! No overengineered cake batter! Hooray!)
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quote: Originally posted by Ariston: quote: Originally posted by ArachnidinElmet:
Are the frozen tiers in US cakes maybe sponge?
Not so much "sponge cake" but "washing up sponge."
I've yet to see a bit of fruitcake in an American cake. Then again, we traditionally think of fruitcake as only for Christmas, obligatory (compare British attitudes on turkey), and booze-free. Think there might be room for improvement.
Americans Do. Not. Like. Fruitcake. With or without the booze, it is disgusting. I'd have to drink a whole lotta booze upfront to get soused enough to eat it. There is a whole genre of jokes about the horrors of fruitcake, and the theory that there is actually only one fruitcake in the world that keeps getting passed around, being regifted from one recipient to another.
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