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Oh yeah, right. Easy for you to say Ms. Pollard. The pressure's off you now and you can just sit propped up in bed eating bonbons watching the rest of us turn and rend each other in an unedifying display of non-Christian cut-throat competitiveness.
Except Chorister of course. She'll just nice us to death.
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I can't think how I got that reputation..... ![[Two face]](graemlins/scot_twoface.gif)
Oh bad luck, Vikki. I knew that condom would get you into trouble.
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Originally posted by kiwigoldfish:
To clarify, how are we posting this? As if it were a Styx thread "Candidate for a dead horse"? Or just as an or'nary thread about the subject?
Either a Styx OP or a hypothetical response on an ordinary thread is fine; all formats, however, will essentially boil down to "I think this should be dead horse because..."
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Vikki Pollard
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quote:
Originally posted by Chorister:
Oh bad luck, Vikki. I knew that condom would get you into trouble.
Huh?!
Sine, I gave up sugar for Lent. So NEEERRRRRR. ![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
I'm afraid Mums (or Moms if you must) don't get to stay in bed when they're sick. Just go round the supermarket in slow-motion. Oh, and have sensors stuck to their bare chests by what seemed to be a boy of 10 in the Cardiology Department... ![[Eek!]](eek.gif)
Well good luck to y'all. ![[Biased]](wink.gif)
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Chorister
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Oh for goodness’ sake, Leonardo. How can I convince you that the ‘Da Vinci Code’ is a novel, the story is not true! It was written as a thriller and was not meant to be taken seriously. So I cannot agree with you that it will turn the whole of Christianity upside down. And there is certainly no need to reply to every single post to assert your belief that because of it we must all burn our Bibles and history books. ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif)
Quite frankly, I’m getting rather fed up of the discussion now it has been strung out for several weeks. The discussion on surefish has already reached 9 pages and now I see you have brought it up as a subject on explorefaith as well. Talk about a flooding of the boards!
Whilst I enjoyed the ‘Da Vinci Code’ very much as a ripping good yarn, I hardly think it warrants such a prominent place in Purgatory, and if you, Magdalene, and others like you insist on wanting to discuss its relevance to Christianity further, I suggest that it be sent to Dead Horses, where you can flog your point of view to death while we get on with the business of discussing matters of much more realistic relevance to Christianity.
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RuthW
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Originally posted by Belisarius:
- Continued discussion of the DH is likely to annoy Hosts/Admins.
A complete list of discussions that annoy the heck out of me is available for only $39.95.
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Grits
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Can that be downloaded from an internet site, Ruth? And do you take VISA? ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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and once you've taken it, do you give it back?
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Memorandum: Reference No. 742QB1
Priority: Routine
Classification: Top Secret
For the Attention of: Administrators
Originating Operator: Field Agent K**ig**df**h (Deep Undercover, Identity Supressed)
Subject: Status of Liveliness of Equine Breeds
Further to my previous report I have infiltrated a number of threads that smell suspiciously like dogfood.
Subject Identification
The common theme of these so called "discussions" has been whether we have free will or whether our lives are predetermined. Code words like "Calvinism, TULIP, Arminianism, Predetermination and ITTWACW*" litter these threads. As do such comments as "So God wants me to go to Hell and there's nothing I can do!?" and "So God is powerless to do anything, then?"
A Summary of the Evidence for the Demise of this Horse
The Subject Appears on Other Christian Websites
I have personally infiltrated a number of other sites**. This subject is not only present, it threatens to sink many of the sites.
DH Rating = 10.00
Polarised Opinions
Analysis of the posting trends and patterns makes it quite clear that there is a definite entrenchment of belief. The citizens referred to as Calvinists outright refuse to be dissuaded from their belief in predestination, chosing instead to believe that they are right. The citizens referred to as Arminians or Free Willies appear to have been foreordained to believe that they control their own destiny.
Each party believes that their veiw leads to a superior approach to life, evangelism, counselling and worship.
DH Rating = 9.52
The Annoyance Factor
There appears to be continued resurgence of this discussion. It appears regularly in the Purgatorial zone, and also in Hell (usually as a tangent in a Librul vs Fundy scrap, sometimes as a Hellish extension of the Purgatorial Debate.)
Typically the Purgatory thread gets deleted after a few days of inactivity and someone posts a new one the next day saying "We haven't discussed 'why belief in free will doesn't make God such a bastard' for a while. Here's a new angle..." and then they repeat all that they said on the last thread, providing nothing new at all.
Naturally, due to my deep undercover position I have had to estimate the annoyance factor rather than ask the hosts outright.
DH Rating = 8.20 (estimated based on extrapolation of historical data)
Conclusion
The total DH Rating was calculated as 27.72 out of a possible 30.00. As it is usual practice to highlight subjects with a rating higher than 25.00 I am submitting this recommendation.
Field Officer K**ig**df**h
* Admittedly this Acronym appears on thread on most topics.
** Pursuant to the mental health clause of my contract for espionage services, I must advise you that I suffered considerable emotional trauma when viewing these other sites and will be seeking professional help. I will provide receipts for reimbursement accordingly.
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RuthW
liberal "peace first" hankie squeezer
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Originally posted by Grits:
Can that be downloaded from an internet site, Ruth? And do you take VISA?
But of course! PM me for details.
Custard: Your VISA card is the gift that keeps on giving ... to me. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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Sine Nomine*
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Originally posted by RuthW:
A complete list of discussions that annoy the heck out of me is available for only $39.95.
Wouldn't viewing MarkthePunk's "recent posts" be cheaper and just as accurate?
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RuthW
liberal "peace first" hankie squeezer
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Close, but I said a complete list. You might be surprised to learn how many shipmates don't even know they've annoyed me.
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Grits
Compassionate fundamentalist
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I imagine the list of the non-annoyers would be a much better deal, as it is a much shorter list, n'est pas? (Added that just to be annoying.)
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RuthW
liberal "peace first" hankie squeezer
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It's n'est-ce pas. (I'm more annoying than you any day of the week, Grits. )
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Compassionate fundamentalist
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Aargh! That is annoying!
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Left at the Altar
Ship's Siren
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Newboy wrote:
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If God exists (and I'd like your thoughts on this) does He watch and disapprove when unmarried people have sex? Or does he just watch and disapprove when Christian unmarried people have sex and not worry about heathens who have never been exposed to Christianity, because they can't be expected to know that it is wrong. That is, if there is a God, does "not knowing Him" relieve one of the worry that He is watching? What about gay heathens who have not been exposed to Christianity but have sex? Would that be enough to warrant Godly intervention?
In a nutshell, I guess I'm asking:
1. Does God exist?
2. If God exists, does He care what we do?
3. If God exists, does He care what people who've not heard about him do?
4. Even if it's something that the Bible expressly forbids and which all right thinking people would condemn, even if they are filthy heathens?
5. For good measure, we do agree that the Bible expressly forbids pre-marital and homosexual sex, don't we?
My, my, for a newbie making his first post, you certainly raise some interesting subjects.
BUT I HAVE YOUR MEASURE NEWBOY!!! I know you from those other places . You've done them to death there, and we've done a good deal of it to death here. A horse's death, to be precise.
TonyK will be your friend. Why don't you go down and keep him company? You'll be loved there (PS. But God may be watching (if He exists), so no hi-jinx).
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Sine Nomine*
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You know, this isn't directed specifically at Isolde's last several posts on this thread because lots of people do it. I've seen it the entire time I've been on the ship. This constant putting down of the liturgical tastes and traditions of others just because it's not to your taste really makes me sick.
It should be a dead horse just as much as open/closed communion or the ordination of women. Even more so since those issues have some basis in theology but this is just a matter of personal taste and habit. Nothing more. Get a clue: God doesn't care. Every time this stuff comes up somebody has to jump in and say "Your music stinks" or "You don't worship the right way like I do. You're in fact wrong. I'm right.
I don't recall a light bulb going on over anybody's head - "Yes, you are so right. Since I don't like incense I'm not worshipping God the right way. Thanks for pointing that out."
People who'd get jumped on for making racist or ethnic slurs are allowed to mock or put down the deeply held and cherished traditions of others.
It's the deadest of dead horses and in my opinion ought to be confined to the basement where the rest of us don't have to read it.
Ya'll just go down there and spew bile to your heart's content.
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Shipmate
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Originally posted by RuthW:
quote:
Originally posted by Belisarius:
- Continued discussion of the DH is likely to annoy Hosts/Admins.
A complete list of discussions that annoy the heck out of me is available for only $39.95.
To the Organ Fund, right?
Charlotte (roll up, roll up ...)
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Sine Nomine*
Ship's backstabbing bastard
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You know, we really haven't had a fundraiser for a while, have we.
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RuthW
liberal "peace first" hankie squeezer
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Originally posted by Amazing Grace:
quote:
Originally posted by RuthW:
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Originally posted by Belisarius:
- Continued discussion of the DH is likely to annoy Hosts/Admins.
A complete list of discussions that annoy the heck out of me is available for only $39.95.
To the Organ Fund, right?
To a worthy cause, I assure you!
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Belisarius
Lord Bountiful of Admin (Emeritus) Delights
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The Poll results have been archived.
Our Third-Runner-Up is...
For our three remaining Contestants--
ROUND 9: THE CIRCUS
In what is sure to go down in Ship of Fools History, the Heaven Board will allow a game of the infamous...
MORNINGTON CRESCENT
The rules are as follows:
1) Whichever Contestant decides to take the initiative will start from The Styx and execute a move to one of the following 14 destinations:
Heaven
Purgatory
Hell
All Saints
Ecclesiantics
Kerygmania
The Circus
Dead Horses
Limbo
The Ark
Gadgets for God
Signs & Blunders
Fruitcake Zone
Born Twice
2) Each Contestant should make a total of 5 moves; out of the 15 available moves, the final one will be executed to Mornington Crescent. NONE of the above destinations can be visited more than once.
3) A Contestant may post consecutively once; if he or she does so, all remaining posts must follow another contestant's.
4) The Contestant who winds up in Mornington Crescent will gain one vote; a Contestant who winds up breaking one of the above rules, however, will lose two votes.
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Goldfish Stew
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In the hope of catching Chorister to farewell her from the game Kiwi runs from The Styx to Ecclesiantics.
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Shipmate
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As all those left in don't regularly experience the joy of travelling on the Northern Line of the London Underground, nor yet the fits of giggles that go with a certain programme on BBC Radio 4, this may help explain what on earth is supposed to happen next.
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I will praise my God while I have my being.
Psalm 104 v.33
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Vikki Pollard
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Who are the last three contestants??
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Left at the Altar
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Goodness, I feel rather like Cate Blanchett, winning best actress in a supporting role.
I'll just slip into my yellow dress and scarlet sash and say "I know you think it's cheesy, Chorister darling, but I love you". I do. We go back a long way.
Then, having said that, I shall move to Kergymania and revisit Kiwi's Donkey appendage. It was a big moment in the history of SOF Idol. Not as big as we'd have liked, but big enough.
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Left at the Altar
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That is, of course, Kerygmania. Must be the champagne.
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Traveller
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Originally posted by Vikki Pollard:
Who are the last three contestants??
Keep up Vikki! According to my reckoning, Left at the Altar, Kiwigoldfish and Sine; respectively Aussie, Kiwi and American. Hence the amazement about a peculiarly British quiz show being used for the next round.
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I will praise my God while I have my being.
Psalm 104 v.33
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Goldfish Stew
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Kiwi, thinking that at some point Sine will be joining this game, decides to move the action to a more suitable spot for the arrival of the third contestant.
Let's double back and go to the Fruitcake Zone.
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Chorister
Completely Frocked
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Ah, but it was worth it to see my name up in smilie lights like that.....
(Thank goodness I don't have to play Mornington Crescent )
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Goldfish Stew
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Still hoping that LatA might be right about the Bobble Head Jesus being the prize...
Off to Gadgets for God we go to check 'em out.
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Left at the Altar
Ship's Siren
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I haven't a clue what's going on. I'm in Limbo. Limbo, I tell you.
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Goldfish Stew
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That much is obvious. Why that move?
You've forced my hand here and the only option is for me to push us to The Circus.
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Goldfish Stew
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This is the point where I could be a smartarse and point out that the rules only imply that I have to let the other 2 contestants plays out their 5 moves and so declare us to be at Mornington Crescent.
But I won't, because that seems a little risky.
So instead I shall make my final move (using my consecutive posts), and in homage to the fact that Sine seems to have blundered and is fast running out of room to play this game without taking the 2 vote penalty I'm moving us to Signs and Blunders.
[ 03. March 2005, 05:39: Message edited by: kiwigoldfish ]
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My vote goes for the one who drags around a big ass.
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Goldfish Stew
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Sine! Sine!!
Where are you hiding? Look, I didn't really mean that thing about the Fruitcake. We like you, Sine, we really do. Please come out from under your bed and play.
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Sine Nomine*
Ship's backstabbing bastard
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No, my dear. You don't smell fear. You smell lust. Sine had a date with his very own bobble-headed demi-god Wednesday evening. With a repeat on Thursday. I apologize for any inconvenience I may have caused, sorta.
In any case, Kiwi is right. I don't have much of a chance now. But in any case, just to be a sport, and in memory of two enjoyable evenings, let's visit
Born Twice
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Sine Nomine*
Ship's backstabbing bastard
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And since for some reason I've got horses on my mind, lets skip (tra la la la la la) from there to
Dead Horses
although the adjective doesn't really apply.
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Left at the Altar
Ship's Siren
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The fear I smelled was Kiwi's, dearest. You pong of lust, as you say.
Righto, we're off to Heaven.
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Left at the Altar
Ship's Siren
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And now we'll slip into Purgatory.
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Sine Nomine*
Ship's backstabbing bastard
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Oh me oh my. It looks like I'm screwed. And will probably lose this game too. Still, the Lord loves a cheerful loser. And if I get the ship's loser vote I'm a shoe-in.
My heart really hasn't been in it since I found there was no tiara to be won. Nonetheless I will head to All Saints in hope of at least winning "Miss Congeniality".
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Left at the Altar
Ship's Siren
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I suppose we'll all just sit here now .... ![[Frown]](frown.gif)
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Goldfish Stew
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Don't stress Sine,
It's only a couple of votes. And with a bloc the size of your's that should be no great obstacle to overcome.
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Sine Nomine*
Ship's backstabbing bastard
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Well, Fred Phelps thinks I'm going to Hell, but ak-shu-ally I going to...
...Mornington Crescent!
Ha!
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Left at the Altar
Ship's Siren
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Well, that was an anti-climax.
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Sine Nomine*
Ship's backstabbing bastard
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I also shoot horses to put them out of their misery. It's a kindness really.
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Left at the Altar
Ship's Siren
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Even perfectly healthy miserable horses, I'm guessing.
[ 05. March 2005, 20:25: Message edited by: Left at the Altar ]
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Sine Nomine*
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They would have gotten old and sick one day anyway.
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