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Sandemaniac
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Wow, good news in vast excess at the mo. Long may it be so!
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Jack the Lass
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Congratulations, chive, that's brilliant news!
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Piglet
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Congratulations and best wishes, Chive! ![[Yipee]](graemlins/spin.gif)
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Alan Cresswell
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I applied for a job at the start of the summer, and got a "sorry, but ..." reply. They have just advertised another position that looks identical. Is it worth applying again? And, not having had any feedback on the previous application (and, though I've met a few people at that department I don't really know anyone to ask for feedback), do I put in an identical application (excepting a couple of additional papers added to my CV) or take a guess at where I was weak last time round?
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Lia
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The new job is turning into a nightmare and making me so unhappy and depressed - had not felt like this for many years!
Nothing wrong with the job as such but I just don't have the skills and knowledge to do it and feeling incompetent is awful. I have been trying to learn stuff but structure and opportunities are lacking - I am trying but feeling more demotivated by the day. There are also practical issues around the job being much more mobile than expected etc but those can be worked around.
I thought this would be a chance to flourish and find myself struggling not to cry, so the reality is hard to accept. Not sure what to do...
Thank you for listening and sorry about all the negativity.
Congrats to Chive and Mousethief though!
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Brenda Clough
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I would apply, Alan. You do not know why they didn't bite the first time, nor what happened to the person they did select. She might've moved to France, or gotten a better offer, or joined a nunnery -- nothing to do with the actual job. Also, persistence does pay off, if they notice. I have a niece who applied for an internship, and they rejected her. She applied again (it was an elaborate process) and they were impressed that she was interested enough to keep at it. So she got the internship, did well, and is now a permanent hire.
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Lucia
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Well, there is no putting it off any longer. I need to start making moves back towards the world of employment!
This is a somewhat scary prospect as I have not had a 'formal' job for ten years while we have been living overseas. It's been great to be around home and not to have to juggle work and family responsibilities while our kids were young. However the cost of living in the UK is such that staying home is no longer an option! Both husband and I are looking for work as our current funding will finish by the end of October at the latest. So two job hunters in the house at the same time - could be interesting!
I'm hoping to return to my profession as an optometrist, but after ten years away I feel very rusty and would not feel confident to apply for a job (or see patients for that matter!). On the plus side I have done all my continuing education over the years and am still registered with my professional body so there are no official hoops to jump through to return to work. Surprisingly for a profession that has a lot of women practitioners there are no 'return to work' courses available, even though women are more likely to take a career break at some point. So I'm going to start by writing to local practices to see if someone would allow me to come in and observe and maybe do a bit of work with supervision and mentoring to get me back into the swing of things.
Although I actually quite like the idea of working again it's also quite a daunting prospect after all this time!
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Lamb Chopped
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Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
I applied for a job at the start of the summer, and got a "sorry, but ..." reply. They have just advertised another position that looks identical. Is it worth applying again? And, not having had any feedback on the previous application (and, though I've met a few people at that department I don't really know anyone to ask for feedback), do I put in an identical application (excepting a couple of additional papers added to my CV) or take a guess at where I was weak last time round?
You could also completely shock them (and bring yourself to notice) by enclosing a cover letter politely asking if they see any areas of weakness they think you could improve. Or ask one of your casual meetees if they would do you the favor of recommending a person you could ask, since people tend to like doing easy favors, and then you could say "X gave me your name."
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Piglet
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Lia, sorry to hear things aren't working out; is there any kind of occupational support system you could use to ask for advice (or even a sympathetic colleague/line-manager/whatever)? There's nothing worse than feeling that you're out of your depth, but it may be just taking you a little longer than you thought to get used to the new place - environment, colleagues and the whole situation.
![[Votive]](graemlins/votive.gif) that things get better very soon.
Lucia, what you're planning sounds very sensible - start with small steps and take things as they come. Best of luck! ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
eta: For myself, I've just submitted an on-line application for a job at a local university which looks as if it could have been made for me - it looks very similar to what I did for 15 years when we lived in Belfast, and is only about 10 minutes away from the future Château Piglet.
Wish me luck!
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Welease Woderwick
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I'm not sure how much I believe in luck but I certainly send you every good wish.
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Sarasa
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All the best with the job application, Piglet. That sounds ideal, anything with a minimum commute is good in my book.
Lia, I was going to suggest what Piglet has. Is there any sympathetic management you can talk to?
AlanC,It sounds worth applying again. Did you get any hints at all as to why they rejected your last appreciation, so you can tweak the new one?
I do two days a week and retire in five weeks time. In theory I know what I should be doing with that time, but IT infrastructure has just been updated and hasn't settled down yet, so at the moment I'm struggling. I've arranged a meeting with senior management for later today which I hope will give me a way forward, otherwise it's going to be a very dull five weeks.
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Tukai
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Lucia:
You have been wise to have kept up with the professional registration and continuing education, despite the expense that I'm sure that entailed. It should make it much easier for a practice to take you on as a part-timer/ observer/ casual/ whatever.
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Celtic Knotweed
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Well done chive! Lia - I third Piglet's suggestion. If you have any colleagues who are nice people, they may be the best starting point.
Best of luck to Alan, Lucia, and Piglet.
Over here, well the funding came through, all of our team got made permanent, and the management are seeing if they can fund another post in the team! I'm enjoying it whilst it lasts - the problem with being public sector is knowing that central government might just slice a chunk off the budget unexpectedly.
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Piglet
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Excellent news, CK - long may your permanence last (if that makes sense, which it sort of doesn't ...)
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Lucia
Looking for light
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I have had some good fortune! In my quest to prepare to re-enter the optometry profession I had posted a thread about tips and advice for returning to work on an optometry forum that I look at (a bit like SoF but to discuss optometry!). Someone noticed my location and got in contact saying they have a practice in the same county and maybe they could help me with some discussion and practice sessions to help me find my feet again. Turns out their practice is just up the road from where I live. Went in today and met the optometrist who was really helpful, it's a lovely practice with modern equipment. Just the sort of place I would love to work! At this stage it's not a job but she is very happy to help me and is planning to open a new practice in the new year so might well be looking for the help of another optometrist.
I have now got an arrangement to go in next Tuesday morning to get familiar with the equipment, watch some clinics and have a practice on some of the staff! This is just the kind of help that I need. Feels like an answer to prayer!
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Pigwidgeon
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Great news, Lucia!
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Piglet
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Good on you, Lucia!
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Welease Woderwick
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Brilliant news! All the best with that.
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Lucia
Looking for light
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Husband has an interview for a job tomorrow that he really likes the look of! But they have told him that there is another strong candidate who has already been called for a second interview... Oh well, it's all good interview practice whatever happens.
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St Everild
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Another one I wasn't offered after the interview.
Ah, well.
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Doone
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quote:
Originally posted by St Everild:
Another one I wasn't offered after the interview.
Ah, well.
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Piglet
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Sorry to hear that, St. E. - better luck next time.
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Lucia
Looking for light
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Husband didn't get the job he interviewed for, however the agency that was advertising it have found him a temporary 3 month job that he starts on Monday. At least it will be some money coming in, a foot in the door to UK employment and hopefully something good to add to his CV.
Might be a bit of a shock being back at a desk working full time after nearly 5 months away from it!
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Piglet
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Sorry to hear he didn't get the one he wanted, but as you say, getting a foot in the door (however temporarily) is always a good thing.
I reckon he should apply for as many jobs as he can while he's working - it's always easier to get a job when you have one, and his new employers can't object to that when the job he's in is temporary.
Hope it goes well for him on Monday.
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Piglet
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A lady in the congregation heard that I was looking for secretarial work, and asked for my CV, which I sent to her, and I'm going to see her about a possible job at the local hospice.
I hope I have the right sort of "empathy" for a job like that; although it may not entail any contact with patients, I suspect it'll involve contact with their (presumably very stressed-out) families, which is something I have no experience of at all.
Wish me luck!
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Welease Woderwick
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With some trucks there are loads of gears!
Great fun!
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Lothlorien
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Strangely Zappa, that thought flitted through my mind for you earlier today. I think I was remebering the Wankydilla fire truck.
BIL used to drive the enormous truck a prominent nursery used here. Trips all over the place. At the bottom of the mountain leading out of Lithgow to Kurrajong road, he misjudged how steep it was. Got some way up, around some curves and had to stop. He backed the truck down around the curves for a couple of kms and started all over.
I have driven tractors and equipment but not trucks except a small 2 tonne Dyna. Am with you all the way on driving manual vehicles. I do not like automatics.
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Piglet
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I suspect you probably shouldn't watch the episode of Top Gear when they were driving lorries - they had all sorts of misadventures (but they would, wouldn't they?).
My "interview" (although it was really more of a chat) was very interesting - I think the job would suit me rather well (and it turns out there's no patient contact at all, and probably very little with their families either - that's all dealt with in the clinical department).
I'm trying very hard not to get excited.
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Doone
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Piglet
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Sarasa
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Piglet, I hope you hear good news about the possible job soon.
I retire next week and am dithering about whether to apply for Christmas jobs or not. I filled in half of the forms for a department store, but I really don't want to have to detail forty plus years of work just for a temp job, so I gave up on that. Maybe next year.
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Piglet
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Thanks, both - I understand they've got another applicant* to interview on Friday, so I won't hear until then.
As for your retirement, I probably wouldn't even think about looking for a new job until at least after Christmas - just enjoy the freedom of not having to get up at x o'clock in the morning, and being able to do just as you please for a while.
Health to enjoy it!
* With my luck, he/she will probably have an MBA, a PhD in office management and about 20 years' experience of every computer program known to man. ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif)
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Piglet
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I didn't get it. ![[Waterworks]](graemlins/bawling.gif)
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Brenda Clough
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MarsmanTJ
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So I've been in a temporary post for two months of a four month contract. In a job I've loved but knowing that after Christmas I would be handing over to the new employee. This week had serious transition meetings, and some issues came up, meaning that either the new permanent employee has decided not to take up the position, or the employer has decided not to employ them. For obvious confidentiality reasons I don't know the full reasons relating to it, and I can't say any more than that about the post in question, other than that about 10 hours after whichever way around the discussion about them not coming occurred... I was offered the job permanently. No more job applications, and I love my job and did NOT want to leave it!
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Lothlorien
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Good news for you, Marsman. Good news is sometimes scarce on this thread, so thank you for posting and best wishes for you for the future.
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Piglet
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Congratulations Marsman! There are few things in life better than a job you really love.
Best of luck!
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Sioni Sais
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Congratulations TJ!
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Lucia
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Feeling a bit despondent about my job prospects today...
I've done a bit of intermittent work experience to try and get back into my professional work but really I need regular sessions, ideally with someone around who I can ask for advice when necessary.
I had a conversation with an employment agency today so I now need to finish writing up my CV and send it to them. But I don't really feel confident that I can get on with the job on my own yet so not sure anyone is going to want to employ me. To be honest I find the responsibility of my profession a bit stressful, worrying about getting something significant wrong. I even wondered if I should think of doing something else! But it would be a pity to give up without giving it a good go again.
Problem is, financially I really need to find some paid employment sooner rather than later...
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Eigon
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My Young Man has a Very Important Interview next week....
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Piglet
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Best of luck to Young Man!
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Eigon
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Alas, the Young Man failed on the maths test - but did well in other areas, so he will try again.
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