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Lothlorien
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Picture of said huge duck on harbour. You sure, Mr Curly, that you didn't get a bad prawn at the big prawn? ![[Biased]](wink.gif)
Have just heard DIL and grandchildren have been evacuated, along with other campers from Kangaroo Valley. A precautionary measure, apparently but fire danger in Southern Highlands, Shoalhaven area is labelled catastrophic. They were there with a church group. Have been going for years and this is the first time anything like this has happened.
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Vulpior
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Originally posted by Lothlorien:
Picture of said huge duck on harbour. You sure, Mr Curly, that you didn't get a bad prawn at the big prawn?
Have just heard DIL and grandchildren have been evacuated, along with other campers from Kangaroo Valley. A precautionary measure, apparently but fire danger in Southern Highlands, Shoalhaven area is labelled catastrophic. They were there with a church group. Have been going for years and this is the first time anything like this has happened.
We have, for the first time in over nine years, packed changes of clothing, papers and a few sentimental items to take into Canberra tomorrow when we go to work. Just in case.
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I didn't know that NSW had also adopted the same scale of fire danger ratings as South Australia, but after a few seasons without anything coming of it the Catastrophic level is not really taken as seriously as it should now.
Stay safe everyone, and even if you're not in a dangerous area remember to stay cool and well hydrated - tomorrow is not a day to put concerns about energy prices ahead of your health. Just a tip from the experience of some of our friends on Eyre Peninsula a few years ago - if you're packing a case of stuff for the day just in case, make sure you include important ID and legal documents so dealings with unconscionably evil insurance companies won't add to the pain if something does happen.
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On the other subject of that duck, is creativity really so lacking on the east coast that the Sydnesians needed an artist from a country infamous for its love of marijuana to come up with that? ![[Snigger]](graemlins/snigger.gif)
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Banner Lady
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And not even original - the creator has been flogging the "oceans of the world as a bathtub" for years with rubber ducks popping up regularly in festivals around the globe.
Sorry. But I think a big inner tube hung from the Sydney Harbour Bridge would have been a bit more evocative for most Australians than a rubber duck.
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My turn for a virus now. Yuck. I hate beng sick.
And last Friday, our hottest day to date... 42.... Was when I decided that, for this quarter, I really wasn't going to bother about the electricity bill. And so, for the first time in months, I am using air-con, tho not at night.
No fires here yet, fortunately, altho many in my far-flung patrol (parish of several hundred square km)... Not serious thankfully.
My own community is surrounded by farming l, and has apparently ever been threatened by fire.
My prayers go out to those who are.
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Galloping Granny
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We're watching the news anxiously, and hoping Shipmates are safe and, fires apart, coping with the heat.
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Dennis the Menace
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Just got to 39.1 here. Thank the Lord I am not working today, also thanks for air con.
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Lothlorien
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This is directed at media coverage, not any one here.
What do they expect? This is Sydney and NSW and this is January. Last year's cooler summer must have made us sissies or something. Truly, do we need a live blog of the temperature?
Then again it's holidays in Sydney and there's probably not much else for the media to carry on about except Shane Warne's manners or lack thereof. The less said of that the better, too.
I'm not complaining about the fire coverage. Technology has given us a big boost in showing fires, listing incidents, giving warnings etc, even downloading outlines of plans for safety. Knowledge of all this helps and I'm not begrudging the coverage.
I'm not all hot and bothered and cranky. It's about 40°C here now. I closed blinds and windows this morning. I have fan on its lowest setting in lounge room. I had an airconditioner installed 15 months ago. It may go on tonight if it's still hot when I go to bed. That would be its second use.
I guess it really is the silly season and the press are searching for copy. There have been quite a few media beat ups lately of things which may go unnoticed at other times when there are more news worthy events around.
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We have been very grateful in Tasmania for the excellent ABC radio coverage of the catastrophic fires over the past few days. This has enabled us to know what is happening to loved ones as communication has been difficult. As I write this another big fire has sprung up near where I live, winds are howling and I can't see out of my front door due to smoke. It is very frightening. I pray that the other states under fire threat are spared what we have been through.
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bib & all in danger or anxious
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I'm sorry Lothlorien, I wasn't meaning to do a blog of the temps, just bemoaning the heat nor was it intended to upset anyone.
I agree with you that the weather guys seem to have very short memories of recent and past weather events and we have become 'soft' as to hot/cold etc.
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Loth, I realise you weren't complaining about fire coverage, sorry if you thought I was having a go at you. I was mainly expressing appreciation for the information we had been given and hope that everyone keeps safe. ![[Angel]](graemlins/angel.gif)
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Yes, there does seem to be a shortage of news the coverage re bush fires is welcome but the beat up re "record temps" is getting monotonous. The weather is hot today in Sydney but it's been hotter and this is a "one off" day, in other years there have been days of temps in the high 30s topped off by a couple of days in the 40s which does get very uncomfortable without air conditioning because most houses can't maintain insulating you for that long and then it seems to take a few days for your house to cool down. As long as the cooler comes in sometime early tomorrow I still think it's been a fairly mild summer so far.
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Lothlorien
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Yes, there does seem to be a shortage of news the coverage re bush fires is welcome but the beat up re "record temps" is getting monotonous
Exactly. As i said, I wasn't complaining at all about fire coverage and I certainly wasn't complaining about anyone here.
To tell people that temperature is now a degree higher than five minutes earlier and then the same thing five minutes later isn't productive . I was truly surprised when temp in iPad showed here was just over 40° Seeing numbers like that makes it seem worse than it need be.
Haven't heard from DIL and grandkids. I assume they are probably at Robertson. I did see change was passing through more southern places dropping temps considerably. But as Evangeline has said, one day does not a heat wave make.
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I like high temperatures, my arthritis stops hurting. On the other hand, one of my colleagues is on holiday in Tasmania...
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Vulpior
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Back at home. Fire from Saturday night flared up during the day but is ok again. But one of the "emergency warning" fires is within sight. Not coming this way but if the wind changes we can expect the firies come round to attack it from this direction.
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Lothlorien
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Two areas close to Vulpior have just been mentioned as new areas of concern. I hope he's OK.
DIL and children are now home.
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Vulpior
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All OK here. The weather did as it was predicted and the fire didn't come in this direction. It's down to "advice" now, but still "being controlled". A lot of work as put in overnight on containment lines by cross-border/out-of-area firies, so the locals should have had a chance for a break.
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Gee D
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That's good news, Vulpior. When I looked at the map, there seemed to be no fire threatening where I think you are. Much closer to my cousin's, but he spent quite a bit of time in early December, and has greatly reduced most of the risks he faced.
We're now in far-from-heatwave Vienna, where we've taken a flat for a couple of weeks. Grey is the best description of the sky outside through the day. Not quite adjusted to the time yet.
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Galloping Granny
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Watching the Oz news and thinking of Shipmates over there. I see some NZ firemen have gone to help.
On another subject – our petrol went up 4c a litre straight after New Year. Either they'd all put it down for the holiday season, as they do, or else they'd deferred putting it up, with the same effect. I had the impression when I visited Perth, that over there petrol went up during holiday weekends. Am I remembering correctly?
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Originally posted by Galloping Granny:
On another subject – our petrol went up 4c a litre straight after New Year. Either they'd all put it down for the holiday season, as they do, or else they'd deferred putting it up, with the same effect. I had the impression when I visited Perth, that over there petrol went up during holiday weekends. Am I remembering correctly?
I've also noticed here in Adelaide that the "normal" petrol price cycles seem to have been all mixed up in the last few months. The cheaper prices seem to be happening on weekends now, instead of Tuesday-Wednesday, and there were a couple of during December where it stayed at the low side of the cycle for the whole week.
It was, if I remember correctly, low during the last weekend.
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Originally posted by Gee D:
We're now in far-from-heatwave Vienna, where we've taken a flat for a couple of weeks. Grey is the best description of the sky outside through the day. Not quite adjusted to the time yet.
Can I just recommend the Zwoelf-Apostelkellar . 14th C vaults (don't stop in the first cellar, go down the second stairs), order up a few Viertels and the weather can do what it likes.
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Lothlorien
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My brother speaks wistfully of Vienna. He's been there several times, staying in an apartment each time, I think. His favourite city in Europe.
Enjoy yourself and spare a thought for over here.
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Gee D
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Thinking very much of those who have suffered from the fires.
And thank you Firenze - that's in a short walk from where we're staying. We have been to Vienna quite a few times and like it very much. This is our first winter stay here, and while it's challenging, having the serviced apartment makes it very comfortable. And no tourists when we venture out!
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Originally posted by Galloping Granny:
On another subject – our petrol went up 4c a litre straight after New Year. Either they'd all put it down for the holiday season, as they do, or else they'd deferred putting it up, with the same effect. I had the impression when I visited Perth, that over there petrol went up during holiday weekends. Am I remembering correctly?
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Perth currently has the highest price on Thursdays and it decreases daily till Wednesday; then increases by 12-15c. I fill up every Wednesday!
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Always much cheaper to fill up with petrol in Goulburn when I'm there, than in Canberra.
Still not over this flu bug - I hope Rowen is faring better with it.
Heard from friends at Mt.Fairy this morning - (other side from Vulpior) - they were evacuated, but the fire did not go up their road. PTL. Hoping today brings no loss of life - the RFS strategies seem to be working so far. God bless all the volunteers out there in the heat.
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Rowen feels yucky!
Get better soon, BL... Stay cool.
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Now back in Fiji after a Christmas-New Year visit to Australia. The heat seemed to follow us tropical people around: from Perth ( a week of >40 deg) to Adelaide (45 deg!!) , and then to Sydney (though only one hot day there). Couldn't even go swimming to cool off, because my mobility and balance are impaired by a broken bone in my leg. So , with a little poetic license:
Poor Tukai had a broken toe
and every where that Tukai went,
the heat was sure to go.
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Vulpior
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Gee D, the Herberton fire was 2km from us; it's now off the list. The pin point of the Sand Hills fire is some way away, but the northern edge was very much visible from our place. As BL said, it's the other end where people were more affected and evacuated.
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hey gang - I have a friend in Wagga I've not heard from in a while, and I know there are/were fires nearby. I can't figure out the best way to find out if I should worry enough to call him mama in Sydney. Does anyone know how things are near there?
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Latchkey Kid
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Try this Rural Fire service link and search the page for Wagga
http://www.rfs.nsw.gov.au/dsp_content.cfm?cat_id=683
Everything seems to be under control.
BTW. Did you get to Wagga in the last couple of years. I remember you intended to visit.
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Originally posted by Latchkey Kid:
BTW. Did you get to Wagga in the last couple of years. I remember you intended to visit.
alas, no. finances caved in. I still have hope but right now I'm focused on other stuff. I promise to let you all know if and when it happens so we can meet up and you can see just how much Alaskans really are weird! ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
PS thanks very much for the link!
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Free board and lodging with us in the Byron Shire.
Come at Easter for the Blues & Roots festival.
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Comet, make nice and you will be sure to get accommodation free in Brisbane, Sidney or Perth area.
Start swimming!
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Vulpior, glad to hear you're OK, esp as you were closer than I had thought. My cousin's had a few anxious moments, but now seems out of risk.
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aLlas, no. finances caved in. I still have hope but right now I'm focused on other stuff. I promise to let you all know if and when it happens so we can meet up and you can see just how much Alaskans really are weird!
PS thanks very much for the link!
FD and I would love to come see just how weird, but the welcome mat is permanently out for any passing Comets ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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Comet: welcome, lodging and I'm sure a shipmeet here too. Happy to transport you between Sydney and here, or here and Wagga. Come any time of year. If you were coming this year you could take in an Aussie Rules match, in what will doubtless be the Sydney Swans back-to-back Premiership year...
- Lights touchpaper, retires -
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Welease Woderwick
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Erm, I'm not sure that lighting things is a good idea at the moment!
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Originally posted by Welease Woderwick:
Erm, I'm not sure that lighting things is a good idea at the moment!
Indeed. There is yet another total fire ban across state today, also Victoria and South Australia, and with high temps forecast it will probably be there tomorrow too.
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Only a few more days of house guests. Can't wait. Got a couple of reasons to go out today, which will offer some respite.
It has been decided but not yet announced that the passion play will not go ahead this year. We're all a bit relieved, or very relieved if it's me talking. Time to refresh, reimagine and recharge for new endeavors.
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Galloping Granny
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you could take in an Aussie Rules match
Much more fun than rugby – instead of piling into a heap every couple of minutes they run! they kick! they throw! That's action!
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Originally posted by Galloping Granny:
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you could take in an Aussie Rules match
Much more fun than rugby – instead of piling into a heap every couple of minutes they run! they kick! they throw! That's action!
GG
But they only kick and throw the ball. In rugby they do that to the players too!
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Galloping Granny
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Originally posted by Sioni Sais:
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Originally posted by Galloping Granny:
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you could take in an Aussie Rules match
Much more fun than rugby – instead of piling into a heap every couple of minutes they run! they kick! they throw! That's action!
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But they only kick and throw the ball. In rugby they do that to the players too!
Exactly
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Firenze , we went to Zwoelf-Apostelkellar for dinner last night. After that, we should be better able to face the cold today. Great atmosphere as well, earns its 3.5 stars on Tripadvisor. Thanks for the suggestion.
As for the comments about rugby - well, it still is the game that's played in heaven.
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Welease Woderwick
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...with Michael, Rafael and Gabriel on the Front Row and Jesus as fly half!
But if Jesus was playing would it be fair to have God as referee?
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Firenze , we went to Zwoelf-Apostelkellar for dinner last night. After that, we should be better able to face the cold today. Great atmosphere as well, earns its 3.5 stars on Tripadvisor. Thanks for the suggestion.
Glad you enjoyed it. Cafe Diglas and Beim Czaak are another couple of places we used always to go when in Vienna.
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The Father is not referee, but Patron of both teams. He has a special throne, normally at the the halfway line, but which will move to give Him an especially close view of interesting plays. And of course, each match ends in a draw.
We'll see about trying your extra recommendations Firenze. Tonight's dinner will be at the restaurant in the King of Hungary, both the restaurant and Hotel being great favourites of ours. We were lucky this time to get an excellent serviced apartment very nearby.
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Look what I've started. I dreamt that I had been rude about the game of rugby to some enthusiasts, and was apologising to them.
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