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quote:
Originally posted by Piglet:
The ground here at the moment is vacillating between crunchy snow and Patches of Treachery™, so flat shoes or boots should probably be the order of the day.

Having looked out of the window at what looks like a light powdering of icing sugar, it'll be ordinary flat shoes for today. So much for this vaunted 100-mile corridor of snow and the forecast saying my area would get 6 hours of it.

However, on the plus side, at least it'll be ordinary flat shoes for today and getting out and about as normal.

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I like this sort of snow. Just enough that it looks nice but not so much I lose work.

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I walked along the Thames from the Globe, over Hungerford Bridge and through Trafalgar Square and Regents Street to Oxford Circus in mizzle and misery last night, then came home to snow, which is still there this morning. The difference of 45 minutes on the tube.

I was hoping to see the Lumiere London exhibition, but all but one was turned off. Apparently for safety, when I got home and checked, but maybe because it was past 10:30pm. I have a second chance tonight.

I had been to Pericles at the Sam Wanamaker Theatre, which was amazing. There was one point that I wished I hadn't been to the talk that said in passing that when Shakespeare gets stuck with a plot he introduces pirates. I nearly laughed very inappropriately. Having not managed to get out of w*rk for my usual carefully positioned standing ticket one Friday, this replacement ticket was sitting in the pit (basically, a good seat).

(Piglet, I forgot to post, I went to The English Concert performing Burney's Journeys: The Grand Tour before Christmas, which was fantastic, the music interwoven with quotations from Burney's Journeys.)

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Snow here in Banbury, light and crunchy. Haven't been out yet, but it does look good from inside a centrally heated house.

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Snow here in Milton Keynes too this morning. It's already melting rapidly, so I don't think there will be much left in the afternoon. But it gave some pretty pictures. And I threw a couple of snow balls on my way to church [Smile]

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A typically warm day here, we came back overnight from Bangalore and have had a lazy day - a lazy day tomorrow then off to the mountains, guest-health permitting, on Tuesday then back to a village wedding on Wednesday! It's a tough life!

We had a good time away until guests both taken mildly ill in Mysore but they seem better now judging by the amount of lunch they tucked away!

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It's meant to be the dry season here but it's pouring with rain again and I'm cold.
I don't mind being cold if there's snow or frost but cold because of rain at the wrong time is just not on!
This weather is going to cause the farmers a lot of problems so food prices will go up again.
Hey ho....

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Glorious but cold day here in Suffolk. Frost but no snow. Constant sunshine since sunrise (it's now 1.30pm), some light cloud just beginning to develop.

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Cold and damp here. The kind of day to stay in and read books and faff about on the Net and do a bit of colouring and pretend to be making progress with the decluttering.

Which is pretty much my intention. [Big Grin]

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My plan to go to oxfam is being frustrated by waiting in for the delivery of the delivery box that is designed to ensure I do not have to wait in for deliveries anymore.

I feel my inaction has somekind of ironic luster.

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As I predicted, I was in the 100 mile wide corridor of snow. And it did indeed snow. And I had to go out into said white stuff because, well, I'm the Vicar and I have to be there, even if no one else apart from the Holy Spirit shows up.

One person came to the 8am (just as well as the church heating wasn't on and it was flipping cold in there. I put the heating on, but 15 mins of heat isn't enough to take the edge off, really....).

More people at the later service, which was warmer. And the faithful few who come to the evening service have decided that they weren't going to come, (caution over slips and falls - understandable and I don't blame them) so I have cancelled that.

I put my scarf onto a radiator in the vestry so that it would be warm when I eventually wanted to wear it to came home in. Guess what? It is still there...at least I remember to wear my gloves back!

I really dislike the cold and damp conditions....I think it is the dampness that I can't stand. If it was cold and crisp and dry, it might be more bearable.

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Snow around here has now all melted

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What is it with so-called Eco light bulbs? They don't give as much light and last half as long as the trad ones. Not a happy Saint, here.
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quote:
Originally posted by jacobsen:
Snow here in Banbury, light and crunchy. Haven't been out yet, but it does look good from inside a centrally heated house.

All we got 17 miles south was some light snow that melted as it touched the ground, causing many puddles. Even that had stopped by 10 am.

Deliberately left the heating on last night, to try and warm the house up a bit. This appears to be working, since I haven't needed to find a second sweater whilst doing stuff indoors today [Eek!] Now I just need to remember to put it back to timed before heading out tomorrow morning...

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What is it with so-called Eco light bulbs? They don't give as much light and last half as long as the trad ones. Not a happy Saint, here.

I don't like them much either, but I saw something on Facebook the other day suggesting that someone had developed an incandescent one that was just as eco-friendly as the eco-ones. Now that would be a Good Thing.

We had a wee squit of snow last night, but nothing serious; they're forecasting about 6" for tomorrow though, which may be a bit less helpful. It's not that I'd mind getting a snow-day, but I've got stuff going on at w*rk that needs to be done, and won't be if I'm not there.

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I have a problem! I hope someone can help.

It's the wrong, overuse of the word "like".

I work in an office the hapless (selfish, uncompromising) 24y/o colleague uses the word like in the most bizarre and annoying way.

Sentences may and often consist of "I was like, what are you like, and he was like, let's go to the like pub like, and I was like, like yeah!"

This girl has a degree. Can I say anything to her? She's on her career path, like.

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They grow out of it. You'll probably have to wait like a couple of years yet but it'll happen. I've known several young things who had like degrees and stuff and suffered from this malady, but they get over it. Annoying, but give it time.
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quote:
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I have a problem! I hope someone can help.

It's the wrong, overuse of the word "like".

I work in an office the hapless (selfish, uncompromising) 24y/o colleague uses the word like in the most bizarre and annoying way.

Sentences may and often consist of "I was like, what are you like, and he was like, let's go to the like pub like, and I was like, like yeah!"

This girl has a degree. Can I say anything to her? She's on her career path, like.

When talking to her, use the F word where she uses 'like'. It make very nearly as much sense.

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I think in two years I will be dead of like fuck like death, you know?

I can't believe the inanity.

I do like the idea of saying fuck instead of like. I can be like, I mean, fuck, cool as well!

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She's probably unaware she's doing this.
Count up the 'likes' and tell her the total. I'll be the fly on the wall.

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I bet she is completely oblivious.

But I'm becoming neurotic about my speech as I utter a lot of "you knows". I'm also concerned that I will adopt lots of the "like".

I went on a group holiday with an extremely intelligent and thoughtful lady. Questions would be met with a silence whilst she thought and formed her responses. She hated all this nonveration words because she said such people just don't think. I think she had a point. We all have moments and times of lazy speech but it's the endlessness of it.

I've known times where I have got carried away with a swear word and then someone has either cringed or mentioned it, or I've caught myself.

Where does it come from this "like" thing.

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Beenster: Where does it come from this "like" thing.
What I understand is that this started in California?

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It's teenspeak. Some linguist did a study of it and discovered that when something serious happens, "like" disappears temporarily from the vocab of people who habitually use it. They no longer hide behind "it was like" which is essentially a way of distancing yourself from something. Dropping it is dealing with a concept basically as it stands, without qualification, lack of confidence, or fudging it.

The other speech pattern that can be quite annoying is the sentence with the rising intonation at the end like a question? That's basically looking for reassurance/validation, and goes too once they develop more confidence.

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I think it is originally called Valleyspeak, referring to the San Fernando Valley in California.

(I really like this Star Wars spoof in Valleyspeak.)

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That's all really interesting, yes this little git is lacking hugely in confidence, she is a passive-aggressive bully in my mind (controls the radio, radio 1 day in day out, I told her I didn't like radio 1 and she flew at me as if I had insulted her personally.

Part of me thinks she needs slapping into the next century but the reality is different.

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quote:
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... The other speech pattern that can be quite annoying is the sentence with the rising intonation at the end like a question? ...

That's what Stephen Fry referred to as the "AQI" or Australian Questioning Inflection when he was the guest on Room 101 many moons ago. I blame Neighbours (is that still going?).

In other news, the sn*w didn't start at all until I'd finished w*rk at 2 o'clock, and has only really been in earnest for the last couple of hours, but now looks as though it's settling in for the duration; I'd say the Pigletmobile is probably under about 3 inches so far.

Mind you, it'll probably have stopped by the morning, and just become messy, so we won't get a sn*w day. [Frown]

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quote:
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I think it is originally called Valleyspeak, referring to the San Fernando Valley in California.

(I really like this Star Wars spoof in Valleyspeak.)

Also known as "upspeak" and colossally irritating to those of us who think we know how to speak (but probably don't). But it's not just a teen thing. There is a woman in our church whose voice rises almost to a screech at the end of a sentence when she is addressing a meeting, even when she isn't excited about something. I don't understand the constant use of "like". It might be instructive to analyse how these people write (if they can write) to see if it carries over from their speech.

This message comes to you from a notoriously bad speaker.

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I have to confess that Orcadians have a slight tendency to rise at the end of sentences, although it's a different sort of rise from the Australian one. It may be the Norse influence on the dialect, as most of the Scandinavian languages go up and down in pitch a lot more noticeably than English does.

A late Welsh friend who lived in Orkney used to reckon that the end of some people's sentences could only be heard by dogs ... [Big Grin]

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That's funny piglet about the dogs hearing ends of sentences! And it's true, some dialects do go up at the end and yes, guilty, I used to go up at the end of sentences as I wanted to be like one of the girls in neighbours.

This valley speak and analysis of the way / the why people do it is very insightful.

Sure, my language is far from perfect, glasshouses and stones.

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But in my experience, the Welsh (when they speak English) have a rising pitch at the end of the sentence too. I guess it's a different kind of rising pattern.

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*Grumble grumble*

I detest my local council. Just before Christmas they sent me a bill for council tax, but it wasn't the usual annual bill. It was headed "discount amendment" and as I only have one discount (single occupier) it seemed that this had been revoked.

I phoned them up and they said I never returned a form to confirm that I still lived alone. How can one return a form one has never received? I asked for evidence that they had sent one; no such evidence was provided. I was told to email and confirm my details, as well as the fact that I was still living alone.

I later received an email (which unhelpfully was directed to my spam folder, so didn't find for some time) acknowledging my email and directing me to an online form, which I have filled in.

Got home last night and found a demand for payment and a threat that I would lose my right to pay by installments if I didn't pay within 7 days of the date at the top of the letter. The letter was dated the 13th, yet I only received it yesterday.

I don't owe them any extra money, have never given them cause to think I do not live alone and they have not presented me with any evidence to the effect that I don't live alone.
[Mad]

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quote:
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But in my experience, the Welsh (when they speak English) have a rising pitch at the end of the sentence too. I guess it's a different kind of rising pattern.

Very true; and many Orcadians (myself included) have frequently been mistaken for being Welsh.

There's a saying that the definition of an Orcadian is a Norwegian living in Scotland speaking English with a Welsh accent ... [Big Grin]

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Not wanting this thread to sink without trace ; I thought I would report that it is sunny, clearish sky and not quite as cold as it has been.

I will be glad though when the sun is a bit higher in the sky - it doesn't half clobber you driving south!! [Cool]

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I guess the solution is to keep driving North [Smile]

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No, just drive backwards.
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quote:
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I guess the solution is to keep driving North [Smile]

That seems like a very sensible idea.

To this exiled Orcadian, the most comforting sign on a British road is the one just outside Perth that reads "A9 North". [Smile]

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I would have thought "Welcome to Scrabster" would be even more welcome!

Anyway, there are signs to "The North" just leaving London on the M1!

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quote:
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But in my experience, the Welsh (when they speak English) have a rising pitch at the end of the sentence too. I guess it's a different kind of rising pattern.

Yes - it is different, and almost musical in the way it flows and rises to a gentle peak; not the sound of squealing tyres when you've hit the brakes too hard. OK - I have a big bee in my bonnet over this one. Ignore it.

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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by LeRoc:
But in my experience, the Welsh (when they speak English) have a rising pitch at the end of the sentence too. I guess it's a different kind of rising pattern.

Yes - it is different, and almost musical in the way it flows and rises to a gentle peak; not the sound of squealing tyres when you've hit the brakes too hard. OK - I have a big bee in my bonnet over this one. Ignore it.
The Nooport accent is the one that squeals, especially when women speak. It's a terrible sound, "A cross between a seagull and a buzzsaw" (according to my Middle Son). It isn't musical at all.

After eighteen years I still haven't got used to it.

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I see that Metro has reported that Luton has been voted as the worst town in the UK.

As someone who was born and educated there, I cannot find anything to disagree with. For a more specific location, I'd be tempted to vent my hatred of Clapham Junction.

Any other suggestions for the worst place in the UK?

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Well, without wanting to out myself entirely, I've got some experience of Grim Places. Some parts of East Lancashire (lots of the bits between the glorious moors - when its not raining). Some bits of the post industrial wasteland that is the North East.
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Sipech: Any other suggestions for the worst place in the UK?
Easy. Port Talbot.


[ETA: Sioni, could you make one more post? I want to see five ducks in a row.]

[ 20. January 2016, 19:34: Message edited by: LeRoc ]

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Two of the towns I have lived in have been named "Britain's Crappiest Town" at one time or another, Redditch and my current abode, Newport.

I have also spent a fair bit of time in Hull and I have worked in Crawley (pretty bad) and Dunstable, which is just too close to Luton in any number of ways.

To put the tin lid on it, I was born in Blackpool. It's a good place to come from.

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The central belt, greater Glasgow periphery, Clyde coast and Ayrshire are all good for the post-industrial urban motorwayed tower blocked glue-sniffing heroin shooting grey-harled shop-boarded urban wastelands.

Even Embra has its tracts of dismality.

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Thank you Sioni. 22222 looks lovely [Smile]

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Originally posted by LeRoc:
Thank you Sioni. 22222 looks lovely [Smile]

Now he can never post again.
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I would have thought "Welcome to Scrabster" would be even more welcome!

Good God, no - that ferry takes you to Stromness. [Eek!]
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Anyway, there are signs to "The North" just leaving London on the M1!

Shortly after they introduced the congestion charge in London, there was a series of letters in the Daily Telegraph (as you might expect). One pointed out that just beyond the congestion zone, there were signs for "The North", and I replied that the writer had a very shaky grasp of the meaning of "North", citing my favourite road-sign (it's actually a directional sign painted on the road).

And they published my letter. [Cool]

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Nearly two weeks now and still our boiler is out of action. We have a couple of rooms with warm spots near the fires, the rest of the house is freezing!

The good news is that the boiler has now been condemned and we will shortly have a new one at no cost - insurance thingie.

I am desperate for a bath!! (we do have an electric shower in the en-suite so you lot can all take the pegs of your noses!)

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If by any chance you are a member of a health club or a gym they may have baths there. (If you are not a member, ask about joining and see if they give you a free introductory period.)

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If by any chance you are a member of a health club or a gym they may have baths there. (If you are not a member, ask about joining and see if they give you a free introductory period.)

Yes I go to the gym four times a week - no baths 'tho, just showers [Smile]

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