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chukovsky

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After a few sleepy & groggy days at home we had a slightly more exciting one than we would have liked, with me going into the local hospital again overnight. They threatened another operation but fortunately it wasn't necessary, I actually slept quite well (in my local hospital you are slightly more likely to get your own room, it seems - I even managed to miss breakfast!) and am back at home feeling fed up and tired but physically a bit better.

I'm seeing the GP tomorrow partly to get a sick note for work, so need to give him some estimate of how much time I think I'll need off. At this rate, "all year" looks good.

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Yangtze
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Oh gosh.

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Just caught up with this.

I rarely swear, but right now the air in my head is turning blue.

So sorry.

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That so sucks.

I'm sorry.


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I am so sorry. It's just so heartwrenching. I hate it. I'm angry.

Please take care. We're praying for you.

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chukovsky

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Have been signed off till 25th June, after which there is only one week of term. I'm feeling physically a lot more normal now, though very tired but that could partly be the drugs.

Was just wondering if anyone had heard from the Matrices?

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Bronwyn
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So sorry do not know what to say. I have you in my thoughts and prayers. Rest heaps and allow yourself to recover, emotionally, and physically.

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Matrix
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quote:
Originally posted by chukovsky:
Have been signed off till 25th June, after which there is only one week of term. I'm feeling physically a lot more normal now, though very tired but that could partly be the drugs.

Was just wondering if anyone had heard from the Matrices?

It seems really hard to post this. Things are looking positive for us right now, scan is due in a fortnight.

Chuk, grace and peace be yours this night, in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.

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quote:
Originally posted by Matrix:
It seems really hard to post this. Things are looking positive for us right now, scan is due in a fortnight.

That is lovely news. I hope that all goes well with the scan.

It can be incredibly hard announcing news of pregnancy when you know that friends and family are suffering. You know that people will be happy for you, but that the news will add to their sorrow, 'Why them, and not me?!'

In my family there were 4 couples trying to have babies, my brother, 2 cousins and me. I was the only one who needed no help in conceiving. One cousin had no problems with her first child, but then needed a great deal of help with the second pregnancy (twins). Between these 3 couples the accumulated totals for trying for babies is about 20 years!

It was only the first and last pregnancies that didn't have any guilt attached to them. I was married first and had a baby before a few months before the others got married. Everyone was delighted with this first baby. For each pregnancy apart from the last there were people in the family who had been trying for for years. With the last pregnancy (another set of twins) we were all so utterly delighted.

Looking back, we have been incredibly fortunate that all the couples who wanted babies managed to have them.

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Bronwyn
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That is good news so far, Matrix. Will be thinking of you in the comming weeks. It is such a stressful time and prayers assending.

I remember a friend of mine had a molar pregnancy which is basically a non viable pregnancy at 20 weeks, I flew down to be with her in Melbourne, She was so upset, I took her to hospital for the operation as her hubby was overseas. I didnt want to admit why I was returning to Mildura It was to have an embryo transfer, but eventually it came out and she was wanting it to work. It didnt though. Is a hard road to walk and either good news or bad news can be difficult to break.

Thinking of you Chuk and Mr Spouse.

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Bronwyn
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I am going to post here as I feel it is a fertility problem but on the other hand I have a baby so to a lot of people here I am so lucky. Please know I do know this in having one baby. The issue is this:
I struggled a lot to establish breastfeeding. Now I really do love it, and would love to continue it as long as she wants(not necessary as much as now maybe just at night) the problem is this, when I have the IVF treatment for Miriam, after a dr review the treatment was a lot more sucessful once the dr had reviewed the drugs. Ialways only thought I would be lucky to have one. Now there is thepossability that this one embryo I have could become a sister or brother for Miriam. It is slim and becoming slimmer as I get older, although I am not as old as some of the IVF people my bodys fertility looks older according to the drs.
The IVF drugs I will take are not compatable with breastfeeding as I understand it. so if I give up the breastfeeding and put this embryo in I feel I will regret it, I also feel I will regret it if I leave it too late and then not have another one.
We will not try after this one even if it fails, the IVF process was too much for us as a couple and with Miriam would be much too much.

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Like Bronwyn I (deep breath) wish to share something that is also a fertility problem, although perhaps better described as something arising from fertility problems.

Mrs Cod an I are amongst the fortunate ones here. We have one daughter concieved using IVF, and Mrs Cod has just discovered that she is pregnant again. Our treatment was part funded by the State, so even though it has been expensive, it has not crippled us financially.

The problem is that Mrs. Cod misunderstood the IVF process and thought that the egg would be fertilised in her, rather than in a laboratory. My mistake was not realising that she had not understood. We both discovered our respective mistakes after the fertilisation by which time it was too late. Mrs. Cod was very distressed at the thought of twenty frozen embryos, and she now feels locked into a process which she regards as unethical. We have one frozen embryo left. I do not believe IVF to be ethically dubious.

It doesn't help that Mrs Cod's church is evangelical Anglican and while others within the congregation have discreetly undergone IVF, it is generally frowned upon by the average pew-sitter. This means that she especially (and myself) have witnessed comments which I ignore but which have caused her extreme angst. She is under the impression that the only churches that are OK about IVF are falling-over-the-edge liberal.

This is not the thread to discuss whether IVF is good or bad from a Christian POV but I would be very grateful for prayers from others as I support my wife as best I can, and I also will pray for anyone who posts on or follows this thread who is in the same situation.

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Suze

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[Votive] prayers for your wife Cod, I know how it is to have a church that openly speaks against such a sensitive issue that sits so close to the heart.

I don't often post on this thread but I read it regularly and remember everyone in prayer often.

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Bronwyn
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Hugs Cod and Mrs Cod. So hard.

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chukovsky

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Gosh, that is hard. I can't believe the clinic got as far as they did without working out she didn't understand the process, though.

One possibility which I have heard of is embryo donation, although as you only have one more embryo frozen perhaps you would be able to try for another pregnancy after this one, since I believe you have a few years to do that.

Most churches in the UK as far as I know are OK with IVF (certainly several church people have asked us if it would improve our chances - it wouldn't). I know there are more church people who would be against selective reduction, but that's also pretty much ruled out by the standard process here.

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Cod and Mrs Cod [Votive]

Others on this thread too [Votive]

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[Votive] The Cods
[Votive] Bronwyn

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Matrix
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[Votive] Bronwyn, the Cods, Chuk [Votive]

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chukovsky

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I'm just coming to the end of my sick leave, and am due back at work on Monday. I've negotiated a reduced load with my line manager for the first week, and then we're off on holiday the following week, but next week starts with a three- to four-hour meeting on Monday morning [Help] .

I have told him I might not make it through the whole meeting - but I do know it's one of the most important meetings of the year.

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[Votive] for Chukovsky and the Cods.

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Matrix
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:votive:chukovsky [Votive]

Our scan was today, one tiny heartbeat pumping away...

Grace and peace to all
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Bronwyn
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Matrix, so exciting.

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Thanks everyone for the prayers. I am pleased to say that I had a discreet chat with a Catholic friend of mine who believes that my wife has done nothing wrong, and notwithstanding what the Vatican says on the matter, knows a priest who would be able to talk helpfully to Mrs. Cod.

I am quitting SoF now, but I would like to let you know once again that your prayers are very much appreciated.

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chukovsky

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We had our consultant's appointment today and results of the genetic testing on the foetus were back. Although it is possible that the tests were wrong (complicated but if you're really interested PM me) it is likely that it was a genetically normal female.

Although of course if something like this happens you always want answers, in a way this feels like quite a good answer to us (and apparently common - in 2/3 of miscarriages where they can test, there is no genetic cause).

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Yangtze
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Not quite sure what the right words are here but glad today went well and that you think it's a good answer. Prayers for both of you as always.

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What Yangtze said. [Votive]

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Bronwyn
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Just feeling for couples who struggle with infertility. It is so so hard.

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