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Galloping Granny
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Or for hoi polloi who like single-syllable words, how about 'fan ovens'?
(Notice how I omitted the 'the' for the sake of high pedantry)

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I will soon be flying (within the US) for the first time since acquiring a laptop. Any special hints from seasoned travelers that will minimise problems going thru security with a laptop?

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Don't put any explosives or drugs in it. [Big Grin]

And have it easily accessible - they (often? usually?) have to go through the x-ray thing by themselves, not in a bag. I carry mine in a neoprene sleeve in my backpack - it's easy to get out and easy to put back. Important for not causing a traffic jam or getting flustered once you've made it through the barrier.

I have heard about having to take batteries out for security checks but have never been required to do that myself. It's usually pretty easy to get batteries out anyway.

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It's VERY important that you remember that you have had to take it out of your bag, and that you have to pick it up and put it back in your bag afterwards. Otherwise, you will have the same sick feeling my dear husband had, of going to unpack his laptop at his hotel, realising it wasn't there and remembering that the last time he'd seen it was when he removed it from his bag at security....

He got it back the next day! But it meant a trip back to the airport when he could have been doing something more interesting.

The nice people at security assured him he wasn't the only one to have done this.

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I am normally asked to boot up laptops when I go through security in the US. I don't know why, this doesn't happen to everybody - I genuinely suspect that I'm on some list somewhere. (On internal US flights I am also usually required to reclaim my check-in luggage and unpack it in front of a security guard. I have been known to have to take my outer clothing off for searching too, though nothing more intimate than that, thank goodness! Nevertheless, I avoid flying in the US!)

Anyway, sorry for the digression. Booting up your laptop is a possibility, though the logic of that escapes me - surely it is not beyond the wit of terrorist masterminds to fashion a laptop that both boots up and harbours explosives?

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Don't odd questions pop into your head sometimes? I've a couple I've been pondering recently, for no very good reason.

One: In the UK (and, I think, Europe), our "daylight saving time" runs from about the end of October to about the end of March. But this means we only get two months of dark evenings before the winter solstice, but three months after. Does anybody know why we do it like this? - it seems to me that it would meet half-way those who want to do away with it altogether if we moved to the lighter evenings around the end of February.

Two: I don't want to sound curmudgeonly about this, but we're often told to "save water" these days - you know, turn off taps while you're brushing your teeth and so on. But can anyone tell me how it helps someone in London (let alone sub-Saharan Africa) if I, in soggy Manchester, turn my tap off? I mean, my saving water doesn't get any more water to those drier places - we don't even have a national water distribution system, let alone an international one.

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On the question of Daylight Saving Time, in Britain "British Summer Time" runs from the last weekend in March to that in October, and in that period the clocks are advanced an hour from GMT so we get lighter evenings. In the early seventies it was tried all year round but it was still dark in Scotland at 10 am (yes, dark, not just a bit murky). I think the figures showed that it saved lives on the roads but it was dropped. Maybe it's worth another look.

Now on to water. It's true that water isn't being made any more but our problem, and especially London's problem, is that water is being taken from aquifers at a rate greater than they refill. If the pipes taking used water were reliable then that wouldn't be so much of a problem but I think something like 3% of London's used water just leaks away, and this takes centuries to get back to the aquifers from which it came in the first place.

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On London water. It is true that a lot just leaks out of old pipes. London Water (or whatever they are called these days), say they are replaceing all the old pipes. That is great but at the moment we have to put with leaking pipes and great big holes in the road.

I am from Preston a very rainy town, and we were always still told to save water.

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quote:
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Now on to water. It's true that water isn't being made any more but our problem, and especially London's problem, is that water is being taken from aquifers at a rate greater than they refill. If the pipes taking used water were reliable then that wouldn't be so much of a problem but I think something like 3% of London's used water just leaks away, and this takes centuries to get back to the aquifers from which it came in the first place.

Yeah, but I think the question was - how does saving water in Manchester or Scotland (where we're not short, usually, it just keeps falling out of the sky into our reservoirs) help places where there isn't so much? We're not using up your aquifers.

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North East Quine

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Originally posted by Sioni Sais:

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In the early seventies it was tried all year round but it was still dark in Scotland at 10 am (yes, dark, not just a bit murky). I think the figures showed that it saved lives on the roads but it was dropped. Maybe it's worth another look.

It didn't work in Scotland because children were going to school in the dark in the mornings. Coming home from school after dark isn't quite so bad, because there's less traffic around at 4pm, but children who had to be at school by 9am were on the roads at the same time as people driving to work.

I could be wrong, but I thought there was a decrease in fatalities in the south and an increase in the north.

It might work better now, when fewer children walk/cycle to school, but personally, I don't fancy it.

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North East Quine

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FWIW, where we live, about 2/3 of the way up Scotland, on the shortest day our sunrise is at 8.50am, and sunset is at 15.25pm - so my kids are at school just before sunrise, and are coming home at sunset. Change that by an hour and they'd be watching the sunrise from their classroom windows, but would be coming home in daylight. I'd rather they were in darkness when there was less traffic about, i.e. on their journey home.

Also, it's more likely to be icy underfoot just before dawn, than just before dusk - more falls on slippy pavements if the kids were walking to school an hour before sunrise.

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quote:
Originally posted by Adeodatus:


One: In the UK (and, I think, Europe), our "daylight saving time" runs from about the end of October to about the end of March. But this means we only get two months of dark evenings before the winter solstice, but three months after. Does anybody know why we do it like this? - it seems to me that it would meet half-way those who want to do away with it altogether if we moved to the lighter evenings around the end of February.


It's that European staple compromise.

At one time British Summer Time ran from the beginning of March until the end of October while on most of the continent MESZ ran from the beginning of April until the end of September.

This meant 4 timetable changes for internation flights/boats/teleconfernces etc. each year so they wanted to standardize. I think at the beginning of the 1990's the start was standardized on the last Sunday of March. So those countries that followed the Britsh pattern lost 3 weeks and other countries gained 1 week of Summer Time. Meanwhile the standard end was the last Sunday in September but Britain and Ireland were allowed an extra 4 weeks. This meant that usually Britain changed back on the last Sunday of October which was what most automatically changing the clock software was programmed to do, however one year there were 5 Sundays in October and so the change was made on the Sunday before the last Sunday in October resulting in the need for a software patch.

Anyway the arguement that Britain had for the extra month was it help tourism in that outdoor attrations could stay open an hour later - rememeber that the half term autumn school holiday is usally the week before the last Sunday in October but the winter half term holiday is earlier than the begining of March so not so much advantage that end. Well after the fall of communism when East European countries were able to go along with the West - this tourism advantage was seen as a good idea hence all of Europe now ends summer time at the end of October.

The communist angle is important as West Germany always wanted to be on the same time as East Germany and east europe came late to using Summer time thus for many years counties in westerm Europe changed their clocks over the summer but West Germany (and Switzerland for reasons of conservativeness) did not adopt summer time until East Germany did. And if I remember correctly East Germany started Summner time later than western European countries the first year that they had it and West Germany followed the East German pattern rather than their western neigbours.

A quiz question:

During the Summers when most of western europe (and Turkey) used Summer time and eastern Europe did not you could travel from London (GMT+1) to Istanbul (GMT+3) over land (with only one ferry from Dover to Calais) and everytime you crossed a border you had to change the time on your watch.
Do you know what route that would have been and what time zomes were involved?

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What's with the 12 inch high temporary polythene sheet fences that sprout randomly around the verges of UK motorways?

I noticed some new, rather permanent, structures of similar form on the Bedford bypass this weekend. Sorry - no camera. Memo to self: go on photo-fence-safari next weekend.

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Question about British dialects which has just occurred to me (also posted on the Little Britain thread in All Saints):

I currently have the joy of living in an area where good things are "canny", bad things are "a chew on", things happen "of a morning/evening" (even in semi-official documents like care plans) and "mams" have "bairns" (hardly ever do I hear these creatures referred to as "children" at my work place). I love it [Smile]

(I'm in the North East of England for any non-Brits scratching their heads at this point.)

At work, my colleagues almost always tell each other that they're just nipping out for a "tab" - I think I've very occasionally heard it referred to as "a smoke", never as a fag / ciggie / cigarette / whatever.

Is this another piece of NE-specific language, or is it a general British colloquialism and I just haven't worked in enough places where cigarette breaks are frequent and need to be anounced (care environment for ppl with high-support needs = staff need to know when the number of staff inside the building has just gone down from 4 to 3)?

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For me a "tab" is either someone from England's second oldest university, or a rather more potent drug than tobacco!

At school, we did use to call cigarettes 'tiggers' at one point, but I think that was just us. I got completely blank looks when I first went up to uni and asked if someone could "sub me a tigger."

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quote:
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At work, my colleagues almost always tell each other that they're just nipping out for a "tab" - I think I've very occasionally heard it referred to as "a smoke", never as a fag / ciggie / cigarette / whatever.

Is this another piece of NE-specific language, or is it a general British colloquialism and I just haven't worked in enough places where cigarette breaks are frequent and need to be anounced (care environment for ppl with high-support needs = staff need to know when the number of staff inside the building has just gone down from 4 to 3)?

I use to work in care and have heard lots of expressions for cigarette breaks and while i knew what tab meant, it's not one i've heard use regularly. I did work with one person who also said "i'm going to feed the cat" when he was going for a cigarette break!"

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I would not use "tab" but I'd know what was meant in the situation of law abiding social workers. I imagine but may be wrong that it may come from "to tab" someone for a cigarette which if I recall correctly, this is highly dubious, was to cadge a cigarette off someone.

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[Tangent]
quote:
Originally posted by mountainsnowtiger:

(I'm in the North East of England for any non-Brits scratching their heads at this point.)

I'm jealous. Let me know when there's a parish vacant. [Biased]

[/Tangent]

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How does one address the Dalai Lama in polite correspondence, please? (form of address, your grace, honour, majesty, eminence, holiness, celestial radiance, that sort of thing)
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quote:
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How does one address the Dalai Lama in polite correspondence, please? (form of address, your grace, honour, majesty, eminence, holiness, celestial radiance, that sort of thing)

"Your Holiness" according to a quick Google.

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Or, less formally, Hello Dalai.

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Ba-dum-tisssshh.

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quote:
Originally posted by Pigwidgeon:
Or, less formally, Hello Dalai.

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Today I saw someone walking briskly down the street with a horn of the musical instrument variety. It was a quite enormous one that he was actually wearing - two coils of it wrapped around his body, and the bell of the thing like a huge flower sticking out above his shoulder and head.

Has anyone any idea what the name for this particular instrument might be?

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A Sousaphone or less likely a Helicon?

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It might have been some form of Sousaphone. The two coils went round his waist though. And the instrument was white. Except for the keys, which were brass. Quite a sight.
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It was probably a fiberglass sousaphone. They're much easier to carry in marching bands.

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Similar but not quite. It was bigger than that. The coils were like a belt that encircled him, back and front - basically he'd have had to put it on over his head to get it on. But I expect it belongs to the same family and is a close relative.

(I bet he's popular with his neighbours...!)

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It might be a tuba.

Does one need a social security number to file taxes in the United States?

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quote:
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Does one need a social security number to file taxes in the United States?

Yes, I think you technically have to have one in order to qualify to receive wages in the US. But if you're interested in paying the IRS money, I'm sure they would find an expeditious means to assign you one.
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I've seen sousaphones with that belt design. Apparently you can even rearrange some models.

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quote:
Originally posted by Ariel:
Similar but not quite. It was bigger than that. The coils were like a belt that encircled him, back and front - basically he'd have had to put it on over his head to get it on. But I expect it belongs to the same family and is a close relative.

(I bet he's popular with his neighbours...!)

If it wrapped around its waist, it was probably a sousaphone. Here are photos of both instruments. The tuba (bottom of page) points upwards and the coils don't wrap around you. The tuba and sousaphone apparently play the same notes but the sousaphone is the "marching tuba."

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Why do so many 'ready meals' (at least in the UK) now come with an obligatory splash of chilli oil? And restaurant meals too. Not just recipes with chinese or asian provenance, but recently I've encountered a clear French onion soup and a beef casserole that have been adulterated.

Not everyone appreciates the 'bite'; we would rather taste the food. Or am I hyper-sensitive to capsaicin??

Q.

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quote:
Originally posted by Adeodatus:
Two: I don't want to sound curmudgeonly about this, but we're often told to "save water" these days - you know, turn off taps while you're brushing your teeth and so on. But can anyone tell me how it helps someone in London (let alone sub-Saharan Africa) if I, in soggy Manchester, turn my tap off? I mean, my saving water doesn't get any more water to those drier places - we don't even have a national water distribution system, let alone an international one.

At times, and in places, where water is not at a premium for itself, the process of getting the water to your tap is still energy intensive. Water from a reservoir needs to be pumped, filtered and cleaned etc. The water that flows into your plug hole will also need to be moved and cleaned up before ending up back in the wider world. That is how I rationalise at least.

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I've just moved into a new flat and I'm busy sorting out all the little things that aren't quite as I need them. One of these is the main ceiling light in my living room, which is just a single socket with a 100w bulb, is not going to be bright enough. I would like to replace the socket with the sort of 3 or 5 bulb fitting that used to be commonplace. Can anyone tell me what is the maximum wattage that I can have on a ceiling light (the normal UK wiring system)?

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Some guidance is available here. There are two factors to take into account: first the individual fitting will have a rating in watts, and shouldn't be used with bulbs so as to exceed that rating; secondly, the circuit overall shouldn't be overloaded. Your lighting circuit is probably rated for 5 amps so it shouldn't be loaded with more than 1200 watts of equipment. So, for example, three fittings each with 5x100W bulbs would be too much. Provided the total potential load doesn't exceed your circuit capacity and the bulbs don't exceed the fitting rating you should be all right.
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Originally posted by Qoheleth.
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Why do so many 'ready meals' (at least in the UK) now come with an obligatory splash of chilli oil?
My guess is, to make it taste like something. Ready meals tend toward the bland; the processing methods do not allow flavours to develop or emerge. On this side of the pond, the 'remedy' is usually garlic powder.
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quote:
Originally posted by BroJames:
Some guidance is available here. There are two factors to take into account: first the individual fitting will have a rating in watts, and shouldn't be used with bulbs so as to exceed that rating; secondly, the circuit overall shouldn't be overloaded. Your lighting circuit is probably rated for 5 amps so it shouldn't be loaded with more than 1200 watts of equipment. So, for example, three fittings each with 5x100W bulbs would be too much. Provided the total potential load doesn't exceed your circuit capacity and the bulbs don't exceed the fitting rating you should be all right.

Thanks BroJames. If I understand you correctly then, assuming I don't leave all the lights burning in every other room in the flat (I don't!) I should be ok with a ceiling light fitting with, say, 3 bulbs of 75watts each (which is what I estimate I want?

I'm not including table lamps in the above as they run off the main sockets.

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Of course if you use CFL bulbs you can get a lot more light for much lower wattage.

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Incandescent bulbs are getting harder to find these days - we use all CFLs and have no complaints at all.

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Question:

I'm trying to buy fairtrade and/or organic food if ever possible, and am only using refined sugar very rarely. (I find it doesn't have that nice crunch of raw sugar.)

The last batch of organic, non-fairtrade brown sugar (Brazilian Jacutinga) I bought seems to have a very strong smell and taste of its own, not unpleasant certainly, but not really what I want in my tea; I'd love to experience the luvverly taste of my tea selection with only a hint of added sweetness.

Could it be that unrefined cane sugar taste different from sugar-beet? Or is it the organic vs non-organic that makes the difference? Or perhaps it's just grown in a different place, or is it of a different type? (I guess I'll go back to the fairtrade Paraguay one I had before.)

Many thanks for your comments, Ship's expert chefs. [Smile]

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quote:
Originally posted by Sparrow:
quote:
Originally posted by BroJames:
Some guidance is available here. There are two factors to take into account: first the individual fitting will have a rating in watts, and shouldn't be used with bulbs so as to exceed that rating; secondly, the circuit overall shouldn't be overloaded. Your lighting circuit is probably rated for 5 amps so it shouldn't be loaded with more than 1200 watts of equipment. So, for example, three fittings each with 5x100W bulbs would be too much. Provided the total potential load doesn't exceed your circuit capacity and the bulbs don't exceed the fitting rating you should be all right.

Thanks BroJames. If I understand you correctly then, assuming I don't leave all the lights burning in every other room in the flat (I don't!) I should be ok with a ceiling light fitting with, say, 3 bulbs of 75watts each (which is what I estimate I want?

I'm not including table lamps in the above as they run off the main sockets.

I am not an electrician, but this seems OK, and you are right to exclude table lamps plugged into the power circuit. Depending on the size of your flat you may have more than one lighting circuit - a look at your consumer unit (formerly known as a fuse board by us oldies) should tell you that.
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Would anyone have any suggestion for an address to write to Helen Roseveare, author of Give me this mountain?
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If google hasn't worked, write c/o her publisher (address will be in the book).

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Thanks, Hart. I haven't actually got a copy of the book, but will try to track one down this weekend. [Smile]
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Does anyone have an URL to that website that tells about all the secret phone numbers and tricks to speak to a person who can actually do something for you when dealing with a many menued corporate phone wall?

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Is it gethuman.com?
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How does Flickr work? Is it idiot-proof? Really idiot-proopf? Pimplidiotpruf?

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How does Flickr work? Is it idiot-proof? Really idiot-proopf? Pimplidiotpruf?

It's even Pigwidgeonidiotpruf. [Biased]

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