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Curiosity killed ...

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I hadn't noticed the photowalks - there are a few near me, as in a hour's travel away, but they are night walks, pretty much looking at the times. The day time one through Camden market is full

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Sydney ones are full but Newcastle appears open. However, I don't have a car, it's a fair step from station and 2 hours in train. Finishes at 5:30 pm means I wouldn't be home till probably 9:00. trains run hourly at weekends, I think. Probably not for me and rain is forecast all weekend too after two glorious spring days.

I might just try a walk by myself tomorrow if weather is reasonable.

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There are several within travel distance. The walks I am interested in are full. [Frown]

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Thinking about it I reckon a walk with lots of other snappers would just get my camera-envy going!

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What part of Matt. 7:1 don't you understand?

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I've just purchased a gorillapod on CK's recommend. It is brilliant! I was shooting a low angle on a tiny waterfall and used it as a tripod. Worked as expected. The model I purchased does not have a quick disconnect, so I left it attached as I walked looking for another shot. A lizard darted across my path, I tucked the gorillapod against my abdomen and shot. Made a fantastic brace. So I used it for my next macro shot and it worked better than a monopod. With a monopod, I noticed a tendency to sway forward during a macro shot, not with the gorillapod though. A tripod is still the most stable, of course, but not always an option. Just watch the legs, the extra points of contact are wonderful, but can poke parts of your anatomy you did not intend. Wow, long post for me! Think I'll go have a lie down.
Thank you, CK!

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Curiosity killed ...

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My daughter likes the Gorillapod too. It's quick release for one camera, not switching between! So I have to prise it from her fingers to use it more often than not. I like the way I can wrap it round railings.

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Any recommendations for what to clean a DSLR camera sensor with? I've just realized that there are spots on mine, and am not sure how to tackle this.
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I have taken mine to an authorized Canon repair shop in the past. Mine is sorely overdue at the moment.
You can do it yourself, there are plenty of products. I would suggest against using any of the cheap products. Scratches are worse than dust. There is a product that is cheap and will not harm your camera. Bulbs like this, used properly, present little risk.
Look in your manual and find the procedure for locking the mirror up. Remove the lens and hold the camera over your head, pointed at the ground. Use the bulb to blow off the specs on the sensor, being careful not to touch the sensor.

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Welease Woderwick

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I reckon having things cleaned professionally is money well spent as I'm so nervous about wrecking things if I do it myself. The place we use is the one most of the professional photographers round here use, so if they can manage the big stuff okay then I reckon my little stuff will be okay, too.

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If this has been discussed here before, please forgive me.
I would like to discuss the ethics of street photography. Is anyone interested in this?

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Yes. I'd been thinking of starting a thread or posting here about it. Over to you.
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I think it's an important topic though I'm not sure how much I'll join in with the discussion.

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Here goes. I have the desire to add street photography to my skill set. I like the stories that can be told and I think it can help make the normally invisible visible. Thing is some shots are useless if the subject is asked prior. Asked after, the answer may well be no.
I have the biggest quandary in regards to the homeless and less fortunate. They are often the most amazing subjects and the more people see the human rather than the condition, the more likely they are to stop ignoring. The other side is privacy, which I full well understand and sympathize.
One can ask, but the resultant image is different than the unobserved shot. And, an affirmative response does not always indicate a willingness. Sometimes it is resignation.
In regards to the housed and fortunate, I hate having my photo taken. How fair is it that I wish to take that of others, unaware? My photo has been taken by people who did not wish to ask me. I ignore it, I do not hide. But I do not like it.
Privacy is becoming more difficult, with CCTV and cameras built into everything. Even google is chasing us. Does this make the point moot?

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OK – I've "unfollowed" someone who diverged into street photography. There were several reasons for this. Firstly, I think it's intrusive when the subject has no idea that they're being photographed, haven't consented, and their picture is being posted on the internet for strangers to comment and speculate on. People have to go shopping, it doesn't mean they are fair game when just going about their normal lives.

Secondly, a number of the pictures I was seeing weren't interesting or exceptional. They were random strangers just out shopping, completely unremarkable. Street photography can be done well, but I didn't feel this was.

Thirdly, I'd hate to be on the receiving end. I also hate having my photo taken, but not least of all, I don't want someone possibly making money out of using me as a free model, thank you very much.

It's often impossible, obviously, to take a shot in public without getting people in it, but singling out random strangers to make a portrait of them, unless they're public entertainers or celebrities of some kind is something I wouldn't want to do. Yes, we are often all on CCTV, sometimes indoors (at work or in shops) as well as outdoors – there are increasingly fewer places that you can actually be unobserved – but that doesn't mean it's right to feature unwitting people on it as entertainment, IMO. YMMV.

And yes, I did read some of the thread on 365 including one post where someone said that if you felt uncomfortable with it you really needed to do it. Well no, you don't.

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I have mixed views on street photography - and I do quite a bit, but I also feel uncomfortable about privacy. I like having people in street shots or scenes to give them life, but I also would hate to have someone made uncomfortable from a photograph I've put up. I haven't unfollowed but I no longer comment or often look at one 365er's photography whose street photography verges on the unkind - and his shots can make the popular page.

Having said all that, today's shots were all street photography - but it was the job (and the machine) not the people that I was interested in. I'm also very happy to talk to people to explain what I'm doing and if I couldn't look someone in the eye to explain and show them the photograph, I wouldn't want to put it up. This is also after one shot from June that I really regret taking and wouldn't again, and that's the portrait of the lady at the bus stop - which feels too intrusive and too personal.

It's hard - I pulled a shot I liked of a teenager (13/14) I know stunt-biking at the skate park, which he'd seen and was happy for me to use, but because he was under 16 I wasn't prepared to post it, and I got unfollowed by someone from doing that, because they really couldn't understand the reasoning.

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There is another aspect of street photography; the documenting of our times. Imagine if there had been cameras with the legions of Rome or the building of the pyramids in the Americas and Egypt. Or the streets of Carthage.
Might one weigh the desire for privacy with the weight of history? The everyday tells as much of a culture as the momentous occasions.
Granted, much of street photography does not meet these criteria.

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Last night I was looking on Amazon for some books of photos of Victorian London. I already have a few and am building up a collection. Pictures range from (some quite extraordinarily good, clear and sharp) shots of streets and buildings, where nobody is singled out, although those that are in the picture seem happy to be so, to what's definitely street photography and features the characters of Victorian London - the crossing-sweeper boy, the cats'-meat-man and so on.

Where these differ from the modern approach is that the technology of the day simply didn't permit the quick, covert use of a digital camera with the photographer pretending to look elsewhere, or a snap on an iPhone. They had to go out with a tripod and box camera, and exposure times were so long that the subjects had the choice to walk away, or were asked to pose for the picture. And consequently we get, which we do not usually get in today's photos, the stories and interviews that went with them, from people who were interested in having their picture taken.

These pictures and the stories that go with them are a fascinating record of social history. I don't have any qualms about them - this is legitimate and the subjects consented (as often as not for cash or the small boys might get a free lemonade or something). But the approach used to get them was different. Today it's the quick snap, as often as not without permission, and afterwards, speculation by the photographer and their friends/followers.

I know there's a project going on at the moment which aims to get 100 strangers' photos with people who've consented and are happy to give their stories. That's fine with me, though I won't be doing it - that would be interesting and useful, not just for us but for future generations.

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It's the speculation that turns my stomach too. It's why I stopped doing any street photography for a while and I'm getting more and more wary what I put up with people in. But I was really pleased to get the policeman walking past the police station and cars when I took that shot (not that you can see more than he is a policeman) And I was extremely obviously trying to line up the buildings when I took it.

I was surprised by the reaction to this shot and the speculation that went on about the couple - and if you look, since then, there are hardly any recognisable faces in my shots - I could tell you who certain people are, but they are just figures in a scene, backs usually, to scale or animate a street scape. The only exception was the British Museum when there was no choice about having people in shot, and the poor street cleaner from yesterday, where I really wasn't trying to get his face (in fact those shots where his face is clearer I haven't put up) and I was being very obvious about taking pictures.

I have wondered about asking and taking portraits of the homeless guys who come to the church asking for food and money, but I'm not sure I'd be happy with broadcasting their stories, and if you asked and didn't use the picture, that would put you in a difficult situation too - you'd have to be very sure the picture was usable. Whereas I was making that sort of commentary with this shot but you can't see their faces well enough to be more than figures.

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I can see both sides of this issue. I enjoy street photography, the glimpse into other places and people, even if it's them doing "mundane" tasks - because this is where a lot of life is lived. But I also understand the concern about violating people's privacy and as a person who doesn't like their picture taken, I too wonder when and where the line is drawn. Legally, as long as you are taking in a public place, you are free to snap as you'd like - (there are some exceptions to this in using photos in advertisements, but as far as personal or art photos -this is very legal), but legality isn't the only issue of course.

For those who are opposed to it, what do you do when you travel? Don't most travel photos include scenes of people walking in their markets, lanes, and streets of whatever country? Is this somehow seen as different? I know that I snap a lot when I travel, if I'm focussing on one person in particular as the main subject of the photo, I do find a way to ask permission first, but if I'm taking a shot of a colourful market, I don't worry about it.

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ISTM, the ethics issue does not apply in an area known to have tourism. Cameras there are a given. Perhaps targeting an individual in such a location might still carry issues, but certainly not crowd shots.

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quote:
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For those who are opposed to it, what do you do when you travel? Don't most travel photos include scenes of people walking in their markets, lanes, and streets of whatever country? Is this somehow seen as different?

If you have a shot of a crowded, colourful market, that's one thing. If you're focusing particularly on singling out ordinary individuals - not just the street entertainer who is there to be noticed, but the tourist trying to make a purchase, or the old lady struggling with her bags, I'd say that's different.

Curiosity's photo of the policeman is fine. You can't immediately recognize him as anything more than a policeman walking past, and it adds to the shot. I'm thinking more of someone else's "portrait" pictures of random strangers on the street where we're invited to speculate on them. Their faces are instantly identifiable.

I don't know what the legal position is, but I'd have thought that under the Data Protection Act they might have the right to object to having unsolicited photos of themselves displayed in public (possibly with unflattering comments) where consent had not been explicitly given.

(Also, I think it's necessary to be careful - there can be overtones to a situation where a woman realizes that a strange man is staring intently at her and trying to take her photograph.)

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I was thinking about this conversation this morning when I spent an hour chatting to someone who arrived in the church office. He's the sort of person who ends up in these street photos, and I could have asked him for a photo, but the more I chatted to him, the less I wanted to expose this vulnerable person

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Hosting

Please, let's not post about what is legal and what is not!

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quote:
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Hosting

Please, let's not post about what is legal and what is not!

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Very sorry, about that. I should have known better.

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Most folks here seem quite happy to be photographed - in more touristy areas “colourful” locals might want a little cash for the privilege but in our local town and village generally no problem but some people definitely do NOT like it but they are generally assertive enough to say so.

There are things in the guidebooks about being careful about photographing women, particularly Muslim women so I always try to be respectful but I often find, particularly at village weddings, that it is the women who are queuing up for photos! But then I wouldn’t dream of publishing those shots on the internet. The reality is that a camera is way beyond the means of most people in the village so they, for instance, rarely have photos of their kids growing up so that makes me sort of unofficial village photographer as I give them prints and so I also get a lot of co-operation if I want to publish something but that then gives me the responsibility of how to do it.

I don’t have any answers but it’s an important topic, or certainly a relevant one for me.

Meanwhile on 365 I have hit 46% so nearly halfway!

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Interestingly there's a discussion of an article about street photography on 365 now. I've commented partly because I came up short over something yesterday.

I was filming a couple of clips in church yesterday - people taking gifts up during the Harvest Service and the Brownies/Guides mustering at the end of the service - legitimately, I've been asked to provide a slide show / film for an event we run in December to be running throughout. I ambled over to the Brownie leaders at the end to check permissions to be told that there is a list of girls who are not to have their photos published, or any film shown with them in, and I have to check if any might be in the pictures. Now, I have used stills showing children doing things before, but I choose the shots where no faces are showing or I know I have permission to use photographs if you can recognise someone.

And that made me think, and remember that there may be some legitimate concerns about publishing faces - children at risk of abduction really shouldn't have pictures placing them anywhere that makes them easier to find. I'm sure I've read stories of people being tracked down from snapshots in crowds, rare, but happens.

But if legitimate photographs in a public place are subject to these restrictions, it makes street photography even more challenging.

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[tangent]

I can now operate my compact camera with my right hand again! By the end of next week I hope to be using the big one again.

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[also a tangent]

I found this to be a cool expression of photogrpahy art.

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quote:
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[also a tangent]

I found this to be a cool expression of photogrpahy art.

[/end also a tangent]

Yes, they're great!

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This morning I have taken some photos using my bigger camera! I am very chuffed. It still isn't easy but if I keep practicing it will become easier. I am hoping to use one of them as today's 365 project snap.


eta: this morning I also managed to drop my compact on a tile floor! [Eek!] It seems to have survived the ordeal.

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Yes, luckily they're a bit more robust than they look. I knocked my entire camera bag off a tall chair yesterday, DSLR and all inside [Ultra confused] but mercifully it all still works OK.
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50%!!

It feels really good to be halfway there.

I can now use my right hand [still strapped] to mostly control the big camera as long as I take the weight in my left hand.

We have guests with us the next few days so are taking them about a bit hence the trip to the Handloom Weavers Co-operative today - gosh it was noisy with all those looms working away!

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I'm getting a bit nervous.
Although i'm not doing the 365, I have joined the local Camera Club, and i've just submitted my first set of images for their latest "open theme" competitions.
Tomorrow night is the competition night where we look at everyone's pictures and submit our scores, and then next week is the critique night when we find out who won, and chat about what does or doesn't work in the photos.
I've submitted slightly adapted versions of the following, which I think some of you have seen/commented on in flickr:
Chemical Towers

Arrows Line-up

A is for...

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All three are really good, WK, and my favourite is the chemical towers one but I'm lousy at trying to explain why.

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lilBuddha
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The chemical towers shot is brilliant! Nice composition and use of negative space. Love the exposure, structures visible without the lights being overexposed. Very nicely done!

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The chemical towers shot is great (I love the glow) but my favourite is the Arrows. Everything in it works so well, and what an opportunity to be able to take a shot from that range!

WW - 50% here too. Looking back on the start of my project there are photos I definitely wouldn't take now, or would have done more with. I have learnt a few things in the past six months (is it really six months?), still plenty of room for improvement.

I'm sort of experimenting with HDR but can't get the effects I want that some of the more seasoned pros on 365 have got - I think I need to upgrade my software or get a plug-in, as I can't seem to recreate the effect manually. I'll keep on trying though.

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Ariel,

I have been doing the HDR thing before I'd ever heard of the process.
One can use multiple exposures, place them on different layers on the same image and blend and erase for the best effects. Playing with levels and exposure, etc, with different parts of the image.
For the most, I use one exposure and "expose" it differently in Photoshop. This image and this one were single exposures. In order to get the rocks and church, the skies were dull and leaden. I masked out the skies and adjusted the exposure separately. I will also play with burning and dodging.
The human eye sees so differently than a digital sensor it is frustrating at times. These are attempts to rectify this.

ETA: The software packages may it a bit easier for the main part of the job, but likely the best results will require some mucking about in an image editor afterward.
And careful the package you choose, some will lean towards creating a realistic image, some less so.

Here are some HDR tutorials.

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[ 24. October 2011, 19:37: Message edited by: lilBuddha ]

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Sorry, here is a review of several packages using the same set of images. While I think the author could have generated a more realistic image, it does show the differences.

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I am feeling really chuffed - on Thursday this week I hit day 300 of my 365! I have taken at least one picture on all but one of those days since January 1st(the one I didn't, I had a long old train journey, and thought to myself "If I can't think of anything else I'll take a pic of the books", and then I was so tired I forgot until the next morning! So I took the picture of the books, but was cross with myself that I didn't manage to do it on the day, because I'm a bit neurotic like that). I'm determined to see it through to December 31st, although I'm running out of inspiration for the more random pictures. At the moment I'm moving house, so boxes are featuring quite a lot it has to be said!

WK, I really like all of those photos. I don't think you need worry about the feedback at your camera club somehow.

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Thanks for these links LB, they look really interesting. I'll carry on browsing through tomorrow and hopefully I'll get some tips I can put to good use!

Thanks also for sharing your photos and what you've been doing. I've tried the Photoshop method but mine always seem to look no different when merged, so will work on that.

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Alright, had charge of the nephew all day, so only time for a quick and dirty demo.
Go to this folder (password:sof)and look at the trees series.
Trees_Plain is the shot straight out of my iPhone. I used levels to adjust this photo for the trees and then for the sky. Then, with all on separate levels in the same file with the image adjusted for sky on the top layer, I selected the trees and deleted them from that level. The result is less than perfect, if the image were worth the effort, I would refine the selection and clean up the edges better.
Gives you an idea, I hope.
You can do the same thing on one layer with selections, but for me multiple layers is easier.

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Ooops, password is sof123. Sorry.

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thanks for all your kind comments.
The thing I like best about the Arrows shot is that I've managed to catch the moment in their drill/routine where they all look at the guy in the middle to check they're all lined up before moving on to the next bit, so looking at the line from either end draws you back into the middle of the picture, instead of following a line from one edge of the picture all the way trhough to the other side and out again.

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Am having fun trying out new lens I bought yesterday 18-270mm Tamron. would be having more fun if I could get out. Lots of thick fine rain here which is blurring everything.

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Yeah, new lens Lothlorien! Too bad about the weather.

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After much research and deliberation, I purchased a camera for my nephew. He loves my G12, but I did not wish to get him one for several reasons, not the least that he is only 9!

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After much research and deliberation, I purchased a camera for my nephew. He loves my G12, but I did not wish to get him one for several reasons, not the least that he is only 9!
Problem is, he likes to experiment with the controls. He plays with exposure compensation and DOF. He is learning about ISO, he is interested in the whole process. So a camera with manual control it had to be. Not that many around and they tend to be pricey. And, the control tends to be trough menus rather than dials. To shorten the story, I found a used G11 On ebay. They tend not to be cheap as they are in demand still.
He will get it late December.

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well, last week was the competition night, and tonight was the critique.
My chemical towers picture came 3rd !! This was despite some people criticising the lack of focus or point to draw you into the image, whilst some thought the sky was too dark. The standard of the other images was really good, so I am very pleased. I got some hints about improving the other pictures, am not sure how much I'll take them to heart though.

you can see the ones that beat me (and pictures from other competitions) here

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Yay, Wet Kipper! Well done!

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Congrats, WK!
Though I'd have scored you first. Any competition is part personal taste, all art is to a point. After all, someone likes Dogs playing Poker and Black Velvet Elvis. I found the criticisms odd, though. The sky's too dark? It is a night shot. No focal point? Amateur comment. No, seriously. There needn't be one point to which the eye is drawn. Anyway, rules are guidelines for beginners, not laws for anyone. Your image is really good, which of the three is "better" is personal taste. (though the correct answer is yours)

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