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John Campbell, the guy anchoring the report on Radio NZ is obviously partisan (for Hillary)and he is not sounding happy.

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"President Obama has a special #ElectionNight message for you: "No matter what happens, the sun will rise in the morning" "

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Originally posted by molopata:
Well in Europe's defence, as mindbogglingly silly Brexit was, it didn't promise to pull the Americas over the precipice with us. Now, Trump is another matter.

Would it be possible to at least enact some kind of emergency legislation before 20th January to keep his grubby paws off the nuclear button? I mean seriously.

But to all Americans here: we sincerely share your pain and grieve with you.

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Originally posted by ThunderBunk:
Oh Fuck.

It would appear that the US saw brexit and thought, we can do that.

What a mess.

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By the way, a good deal of the Americans here have been a part of this community since the Bush II era, and we are fully aware how America as a political entity affects the rest of the world-- particularly those of us who were against Desert Storm from day1. Why does that mean we have to skip over worrying about what is actually going to happen to those of us who will actually be subject to Trump's governance?

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Originally posted by romanlion:
Good on the US voter, for keeping an unworthy, lying, corrupt, disingenuous piece of shit out of the White House.

God Bless the USA!

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Good on the US voter, for keeping an unworthy, lying, corrupt, disingenuous piece of shit out of the White House.

God Bless the USA!

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Originally posted by romanlion:
I hope every Illary voter had to wait hours to cast that meaningless vote...

Idiots...

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Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
The "karma" is going to land on all the wrong people. The people most likely to have flourished due to the legacy of slavery and the proliferation of guns will be sitting pretty.

If by "karma" you mean "People who have historically been shit on having to swallow yet more shit", spot on , Firenze.

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Well, you could say that Afghanistan has it a lot worse than us due to Bush's shenanigans. But does that mean I can't be angry about the three women's health clinics that closed in my neighborhood under his watch? Or the steaming pile of nasty education policies he fathered that *still* predominantly impact the minority children I serve? Or the fact that Bush spent nearly a decade lying straight into We the You People's faces to get his war off the ground?

I understand global impact, but I gotta get up and walk around in this mess, starting tomorrow.

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The "karma" is going to land on all the wrong people. The people most likely to have flourished due to the legacy of slavery and the proliferation of guns will be sitting pretty.

If by "karma" you mean "People who have historically been shit on having to swallow yet more shit", spot on , Firenze.

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Just so. It is the coup of the rich against the poor.

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Originally posted by romanlion:
Good on the US voter, for keeping an unworthy, lying, corrupt, disingenuous piece of shit out of the White House.

God Bless the USA!

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You may have missed the part where Trump was in the lead. Unworthy (check), Lying (check, check, check), Corrupt (check), Disingenuous (check), Piece of Shit (check, check, check)

However, as he isn't afflicting with ovaries, clearly far more qualified to be president

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Originally posted by Mili:
I think most of us here just assumed you would know we know it would be worst for shipmates in the US than the rest of us. Feeling sorry for you all except those like Roman Lion who are celebrating.

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IMHO, FWIW: throughout the thread, most non-Americans didn't acknowledge that, most of the time. Many of them did post as if they knew everything about our country, and showed little or no humility that a) it wasn't their country; and b) they might just possibly be mistaken, let alone wrong. Many didn't want to believe there's a long history of corrupt elections and of malfeasance, even when pictures were provided. Some seemed to be much more concerned with stats of not-their-country, than with actual people--actual Shipmates--who would be most directly affected.


But thank you and others who've posted sympathy and good wishes and prayers.


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--"Oh bat bladders, do you have to bring common sense into this?" (Dragon, "Jane & the Dragon")
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I suppose one of the issues will be this one. Just how much of a dystopia do the disaffected believe they already live in?

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Are you kidding? Gays getting married, men pissing in women's bathrooms, blacks getting welfare (and OUR jobs), Moslems being allowed into the country, Mexican immigrants getting jobs tending lawns for the rich -- it's hell out there man. It's hell.

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Originally posted by Tukai:
May the Lord have mercy on us, both those inside and outside America - and especially for those inside who are neither white nor male.

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Originally posted by Martin60:
Sorry, I don't understand, "Many didn't want to believe there's a long history of corrupt elections and of malfeasance, even when pictures were provided.". Can you point to those provisions above?

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Originally posted by Crœsos:
There's putting your money where your mouth is, and then there's putting your mouth where your polling predictions are:

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It is totally over. If Trump wins more than 240 electoral votes, I will eat a bug.

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Just discovered this was pre-Comey. He says he'll live with the quote. B62 forecast and pledge. If Sam Wang doesn't have to eat a bug, I will re-read Calvin's 'Institutes'. Compared to which, eating one fried locust is child's play.

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Not American, but I won't be happy till the results are in. There's just a bit of me that's aware the people with the more trumpian attitudes don't seem to be that unpopular. And again the attitudes of minorities against other minorities is also flawed. And in my own demographic heard the 'white men are the most opressed ...' far too often.

So bit concerned that the female/minority anti-trump feelings are overstated, and the white male pro-trump aren't.

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Originally posted by mr cheesy:
I've heard it said (I can't find the link now) that the win was due to white working class voters in swing states moving from Obama to Trump - and that everyone else pretty much voted the same.

I don't know if that's accurate, I'll try to find the link.

Anacdotally, the press are reporting comments from people who went from supporting Bernie Sanders to supporting Trump because they thought "the real estate mogul held positions similar to Mr Sanders, such as curbing free trade and limiting American interventions abroad." (BBC)

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