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Boogie
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Do you have a recipe for homemade baked beans that tastes like Heinz? I've made variations on baked beans without anything like as much sugar as that and they are not the same.
It's the sugar that makes the difference, sadly.
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If you google "Heinz baked beans recipe", there are a couple of things that might suit, by people who've also tried to recreate the flavour. It might be worth having a look and seeing how they correspond with your own take on the recipe. I've never tried them myself - my own efforts were in pre-internet days and a complete failure (I soaked those beans overnight and gave them long slow cooking and they were still crunchy.)
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Welease Woderwick
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In the factory they may well be cooked under pressure, which would probably make a difference.
A tin of baked beans emptied into a pan and heated slowly with a sprinkle of mixed herbs and a dash of Worcestershire Sauce - and just slightly overcooked so they are a bit mushy.
BLISS.
In fact here we have so many different dal dishes available that I don't really miss baked beans unless I think of them - and the home made ones are a darned sight healthier than the tinned stuff!
Talking of pressure I was putting a box on the top shelf in the kitchen just now and I found, hiding itself up there, the trivet for the big pressure cooker - I have been looking for it for ages.
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OK, so it's 3:25 in the afternoon. The sun might not be shining, but it's definitely daytime. And someone not far from me is having a firework party. Admittedly, I fancy having a bonfire, but I'd not thought of fireworks at tea time!
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Welease Woderwick
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Strangely, since I've lived here a few years, such a thing doesn't strike me as odd at all. Paul the priest at Holy Cross Church here has fireworks any time, before mass, during mass, after mass - and at Easter first mass is at 3 a.m.!!
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I think using the word "fireworks" to describe what Fr. Paul sets off is a complete understatement.
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Welease Woderwick
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Originally posted by Welease Woderwick:
...I also spoke to the priest and got a name of a place from him where I might be able to do a private silent retreat for a few days - I have Googled and written to them and now just have to wait for a reply.
I've had a reply and they say I'd be welcome to have a few days there so I think I'll ring in the morning and see if I can go and see the place tomorrow as I'm heading that way anyway to see the Registration man at the airport. Hopefully I can make a date then, possibly for December.
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Baked beans (even Heinz ones) are hugely improved with the addition of a dash of Worcester sauce, or a dash of Tabasco, or even (sorry, Pete!) a dash of balsamic vinegar!
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Originally posted by Curiosity killed ...:
Do you have a recipe for homemade baked beans that tastes like Heinz?
Not tasting the same as the ones in the tins, no. You can sort of get near there if you use a pressure-cooker, and start with the right sort of beans. It wants ones that are slightly smaller than most red or black kidney beans we see in shops, with white or pale green shells. Even if you are using a pressure cooker you want to soak or preboil the beans, and then drain them and change the water.
The nearest I ever got to tinned-bean-taste was when someone gave us a glut of tomatoes which I peeled and used to cook the beans in so the only water was the water in the tomatoes.
Tedious and a lot more expensive than buying a tin! Peeling tomatoes is above and beyond the normal call of culinary duty. Removing the seeds a step too far - I left them in. I'm talking about some litres of medium-small tomatoes. Maybe thirty of them.
A bit of garlic helps as well.
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Originally posted by St Everild:
Baked beans (even Heinz ones) are hugely improved with the addition of a dash of Worcester sauce, or a dash of Tabasco, or even (sorry, Pete!) a dash of balsamic vinegar!
The first and last of those make an acceptable BBQ bean sort of fake-up.
Fools the kids, anyway.
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Originally posted by St Everild:
Baked beans (even Heinz ones) are hugely improved with the addition of a dash of Worcester sauce, or a dash of Tabasco, or even (sorry, Pete!) a dash of balsamic vinegar!
Or curry powder.
The best mushy beans are the ones which have been cooked once, left to go cold then reheated. Like Mexican refried beans only with baked beans. Yum.
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A lot of people here bake their own beans, but they use the dreaded molasses, so the result is probably more than moderately horrid.
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Welease Woderwick
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We will be having green dal this morning for breakfast in just a few minutes - mung beans soaked overnight then [over]cooked in the pressure cooker before frying with garlic and a little spice then served with steamed cakes made from red rice flour, oats and grated coconut.
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Welease Woderwick
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Well, that was not exactly what I'd call a good morning - I went to find out the new procedure for applying for my annual extension on my visa to find that I won't be granted one this time because of various changes in regulations so I have 39 days until my current extension expires, in other words to leave the country then I can apply for a tourist visa to return then do various other stuff if I then want to remain.
At least by going there today I found this out today, more than a week earlier than I would have found it out if I had waited until the end of next week when I was due to submit my application.
Do I scream now or later?
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Start screaming now, and continue later?
Welease Woderick, that sounds very frustrating and difficult, and going to mean a lot of bureaucracy and red tape to battle with. ![[Votive]](graemlins/votive.gif)
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Originally posted by Welease Woderwick:
Well, that was not exactly what I'd call a good morning - I went to find out the new procedure for applying for my annual extension on my visa to find that I won't be granted one this time because of various changes in regulations so I have 39 days until my current extension expires, in other words to leave the country then I can apply for a tourist visa to return then do various other stuff if I then want to remain.
Oh!
I don't know what to say!
Can this be sorted out?
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![[Eek!]](eek.gif) So sorry - how unsettling (to say the least) - but as you say, at least you found it out with a bit more time. Hopefully it will just be a question of unravelling some extra, unforeseen layers of red tape but what a pain. Really hope things will work out for you.
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Hope things work out for you, WW. Indian red tape sounds a bit more horrendous that British red tape!
Grey days are back again. ![[Frown]](frown.gif)
Still, the weekend was lovely, even if we did overdo it with a VERY long and VERY muddy walk. Too far for me, and the mud was the gloopy sort, not easy when I rely on a stick to walk. ![[Help]](graemlins/help.gif)
However, the dog had a marvellous time ![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
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Welease Woderwick
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Originally posted by Nicodemia:
Hope things work out for you, WW. Indian red tape sounds a bit more horrendous that British red tape!...
After the fiasco of Himself applying for a tourist visa for Britain I beg to differ!
After lunch I took up my machete and have cut down a few noxious plants in the hedgerow that inhibit the growth of the hibiscus so that made me feel a bit better.
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Originally posted by Welease Woderwick:
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Originally posted by Nicodemia:
Hope things work out for you, WW. Indian red tape sounds a bit more horrendous that British red tape!...
After the fiasco of Himself applying for a tourist visa for Britain I beg to differ!
After lunch I took up my machete and have cut down a few noxious plants in the hedgerow that inhibit the growth of the hibiscus so that made me feel a bit better.
Didn't Himself apply in India for a British visa?
We British brought bureacracy to the sub-continent and appointed and trained willing students. As in a number of industries, it looks like India now out-performs the United Kingdom!
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Welease Woderwick
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India has sort of specialised in highly bureaucratic states for the last 5,000+ years - the Indus Valley civilisation [Mohenjo-daro, Harappa, etc.] was highly closely administrated as was the empire of Ashoka and virtually all the empires since - the Brits just added a bit of polish!
Anyway, plans are in place to deal with things but the morning has altered things quite a bit - we'll deal with it all somehow. I point-blank refuse to be panicked by it all.
This afternoon we have been to a Jesuit sort of Ashram place where I intend to do the odd private silent retreat - idyllic or what? Sadly the happenings of the morning preclude me being able to stay there until, possibly January or perhaps even April after Pete leaves - but stay there I shall!
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Oh Wodders!
Coming late to the baked bean debate... I use black treacle and English mustard. Works OK, but I tend to prefer something that is more cassoulet than baked beans.
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Originally posted by Welease Woderwick:
... I point-blank refuse to be panicked by it all ...
Good for you, Wodders - don't let them grind you down. Having ploughed through seven years of Canadian red tape and endured much moving of goalposts before getting Permanent Residence (and done more than enough panicking) I can sympathise completely.
Have you got an easy way of doing the "leaving the country" thing without having to go back to Blighty? We're lucky to have St. Pierre & Miquelon, which is part of France but just off the coast of Newfoundland, and a short flight away.
Hope it all works out.
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Sri Lanka is about an hour away - not my favourite place in all the world but I have friends there and can see a bit more of the place than I have in previous visits.
Went into town early this morning by bus then walked back to give me some exercise - I still feel a bit down about things and have just discovered that the other office I need to go to is closed today and tomorrow so no more info towards The Escape Plan until Thursday - I reckon I might book the flights today as the price is only going to go up - and if, by some miracle, we manage to get everything done in time for me not to leave the country [highly unlikely] then the loss will not be that great, less than a hundred quid which is enough but...
Coming back past the airport yesterday afternoon after our visit to the Jesuit place there was a small but INTENSE storm just tracking across the airport - we saw a helicopter approaching from the west and I had just said to Himself that I didn't envy people in it heading into that storm when it turned tail and scuttled away north west and presumably circled round for a few minutes as the storm headed off south west.
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Of course the offices are closed! It is a holiday!
Now that I'm retired I don't fuss much about it, but it seems that India has a month of holidays all told! Here, I used to treasure my 10 or so holidays a year!
Deep breaths, Wodders!
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Welease Woderwick
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We had a walk around the Mookambika Temple neighbourhood this afternoon and it was HEAVING! As I remarked to Himself this will be being repeated near just about every Saraswati/Mookambika/ etc. temple across the whole of India. That's a lot of temple goers.
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Ariel
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Back to work today after a long weekend. Most of the weekend was spent looking out at the fog, and yesterday was spent feeling flu-ish. It is that time of year, though:
Season of mists and colds and sneezes
Close-bosom friend of the nose that doth run
Conspiring with it to bring coughs and wheezes,
Lassitude, and - oh, enough, this verse is done.
The sneezes should be pretty good by tomorrow - I've been practising.
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Ariel, , hope you feel better soon.
For me, that was Saturday. I got soaked to the skin on Friday getting lost somewhere I didn't know, in conditions too wet to find anyone to ask or read maps.
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For most of the last week or so I seem to have been doing an inordinate amount of sneezing. No other symptoms (so far) except the concomitant runny nose and it seems to have lessened a bit today, but I really felt as if I was keeping Kleenex in business. All by myself.
On a brighter note, D. seems to have cracked the bread-making jinx. Having used the "basic white loaf" recipe and had the loaves sink in the middle, he tried a French bread recipe, which doesn't use skimmed-milk powder or oil, and uses a different setting on the machine, and got a dome reminiscent of St. Paul's Cathedral.
Tastes jolly good too. ![[Yipee]](graemlins/spin.gif)
Any ideas as to what I can do with an unwanted box of skimmed-milk powder? ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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Ariel
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Originally posted by piglet:
Any ideas as to what I can do with an unwanted box of skimmed-milk powder?
Keep it in case war breaks out and you can't get any of the fresh stuff?
Or you could donate it to charity if you don't want to keep it for that day when guests arrive, the milk's gone off and you have nothing else.
You could always just use it. Reconstitute and use up, it should be fine.
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If you make your own yoghurt then you could whisk it with the cooled hot milk when you add the starter for an extra creamy product.
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I've just (20 mins ago) had the oddest experience. I'd popped out to our garage, foolishly just wearing smooth soled flip-flops on my feet, and I slipped on moss or mud and ended sprawled full length on the concrete path. Almost immediately I heard my daughter's voice asking if I was ok (school holidays here) and I replied and we spoke while I picked myself up and confirmed no broken bones. I assumed she'd heard me fall and was talking to me from her bedroom window. But she wasn't. She was surprised to see me limping into the house, hadn't heard anything and certainly hadn't been leaning out of a window talking to me.
I'm still shaken from the fall, and now I'm shaken by the idea that I was talking to thin air.
Rational explanation? Please??
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Welease Woderwick
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Demonic possession?
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Me, or my daughter? Or the flip-flops of slippy-soled doom?
Feeling better now I've had a hot shower and washed the mud off.
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I fell headlong down our flight of stone steps in the back garden last week. I was alone in the house, which was locked up and I had no phone with me.......
Fortunately like you I hadn't broken anything and eventually picked myself up and hobbled indoors.
But I didn't hear any voices talking to me...... ![[Devil]](graemlins/devil.gif)
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Originally posted by North East Quine:
I'm still shaken from the fall, and now I'm shaken by the idea that I was talking to thin air.
Rational explanation? Please??
Just one of those things. As you say, you were shaken. And I'm guessing you and your daughter are very close - that she's one of the first people you instinctively think of. In a moment of shock when conscious, rational thought is stilled the unconscious comes to the fore, and the mind can work in odd ways sometimes. You needed to reach out to her and at the same time reassure her and this is how that manifested itself.
This is likely to be a one-off, if that reassures you. Odd things can and do happen; all's well that ends well. I hope you're feeling a bit more settled since this morning!
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Originally posted by North East Quine:
Me, or my daughter? Or the flip-flops of slippy-soled doom?
Feeling better now I've had a hot shower and washed the mud off.
Hope you feel better today. Falls are nasty. Lots of shaking and often stiffness the next day too.
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Welease Woderwick
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Another one here, NEQ, hoping you feel better this morning.
I hope to have a meeting this morning that could possibly resolve some of my visa issues - if this meeting is positive I think I'll then have to head off back to the airport to see the other guy and see if what I have done is sufficient.
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Goodness, NEQ, that's a bit scary - I was assuming you'd temporarily knocked yourself out a bit, although sometimes you can have a fall and sort of miss out the next bit without actually hitting your head. Hope no serious damage was done.
I'm feeling rather sad today; the Supervisor of the Anglican Cemeteries (for whose committee I take minutes) died this morning having been diagnosed with cancer in the spring. He was only 52, one of the nicest men you could possibly wish to meet and will be very hard to replace.
May he rest in peace and rise in glory.
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Welease Woderwick
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After the difficulty of the earlier bit of the week the officials we saw today were completely reasonable about things and they now look hopeful IFF we can get some forms filled in and witnessed and ready for submission by Saturday morning AND my trip to the High Commission in November is a success AND nothing unforeseen happens to put a spanner in the works.
Second set of officials spent ages looking in the big book of regulation before they found the bit that would/will allow them to allow me to stay, if the other bits all work out smoothly.
I am taking a BIG chance and not booking flight tickets out.
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As I said before, WW, hope it all sorts itself out. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
We're girding up our loins for the bi-annual irritation that is the Cathedral Sale (or Fête Worse Than Death) on Saturday. D. has set a currant-loaf to bake (and we'll put another one in tomorrow) for the morning coffee (the choir's bit), and tomorrow I'll make some tablet for the sweetie stall and a potato salad for the cold turkey suppers. Why do the churches here persist in such out-dated activities?
With the funeral of my late colleague on Saturday afternoon, it's really not going to be the best weekend of my life.
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Sorry about your colleague, Piglet. Fifty-two is so very young.
Presumably your fete raises money for something or other. There must be other ways of raising money, what would be choice for the the Second Millennium?
Or is eating cold turkey obligatory in the chilly north??
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My son has reassured me that I can't be losing my marbles, if only because he doesn't think I have any marbles to lose.
I'm a bit bruised, but I'm fine, thanks.
It's snowing here! First snow of the winter!
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The Intrepid Mrs S
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Originally posted by North East Quine:
My son has reassured me that I can't be losing my marbles, if only because he doesn't think I have any marbles to lose.
I'm a bit bruised, but I'm fine, thanks.
It's snowing here! First snow of the winter!
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balaam
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Originally posted by North East Quine:
I'm a bit bruised, but I'm fine, thanks.
It's snowing here! First snow of the winter!
The stiffness should disappear after the bruises have faded to yellow.
It has snowed here this evening, if you count half a dozen flakes as snow.
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Piglet
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Originally posted by Nicodemia:
... Presumably your fete raises money for something or other ...
Only sort of. The two sales (spring and autumn) between them bring in about $20,000; unfortunately that's nowhere near enough to cover the upkeep of the Cathedral hall, which is a great big money-drain.
The sales are the only events that really use the entire space (which is vast), and apart from them, a couple of post-ordination bun-fights, the Patronal Festival barbecue and the odd congregational meeting it's hardly used at all. The ground floor is rented out to a dancing school, but the whole complex is in a pretty bad shape and we're currently trying to work out what's the best thing to do with it. We really don't need a hall that size, and the site (prime downtown area) could be put to much more profitable use.
Any flashes of inspiration would be welcome ...
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Nicodemia
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Sell it!
You could insist that whatever is built there includes a hall of suitable dimensions.
What is most needed where it stands at present Commercial use? Apartments?
What is standing in your way of doing that?
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Ariel
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If you don't want to sell it, then renting it out is the obvious thing until you've got enough cash to be able to upgrade it.
How about some pro-active marketing of Space To Rent, possibly aimed at (external) groups like:
- indoor markets/fairs
- daytime and evening classes
- charity events (other organizations)
- social groups
- youth groups
- mothers' groups
- workshops for arts centres that don't have enough space
- rehearsal space for musicians
- art exhibitions and concerts
- make it available to hire for functions, dances etc
- conferences, dinners (not sure how much furniture you have there but organizers could provide their own, etc subject to your approval beforehand)
Obviously you'd know what would fit within the terms of your current local legislation, but just thought I'd float a few ideas. The rooms above might be useable for classes, temporary offices for visiting businessmen, etc.
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