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LeRoc
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I understand that the old thread has disappeared into the Void, so I guess it's ok if I start a new one?
If I got it right, The Magician's Apprentice will air on the 19ᵗʰ, so ten days from now. I don't think it is a spoiler if I say that it contains Missy and the Daleks. I think there is going to be a prequel too.
I have to say that I'm not completely convinced about Missy yet. In my opinion, the way Michelle Gomez portrays the character looks a bit too much like how John Simm did it. But if this episode completely blows my mind and changes my opinion about her, all the better.
All I want to say is, I can't wait.
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Missy is the only version of the character that I enjoy. Until she turned up I thought 'evil counterpart of the Doctor' was just a bit of an unimaginative concept. (The Master's origin was in the UNIT years when they were trying to make Doctor Who more like every other action tv series there was.) I'm not sure what it says about me that I think Missy does work.
I suppose that good as Delgado was as an actor, his version of the Master was a generically evil mastermind with overtones of dodgy foreigner too clever by half. (There's probably some old residue of anti-Jesuit prejudice if not anti-Muslim or anti-semitism.) Ainley was a camp imitation of Delgado; Simm a more modern updating of Ainley. Gomez, even if her version is based on Simm, takes the character out from under Delgado's shadow.
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LeRoc
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Dafyd: Gomez, even if her version is based on Simm, takes the character out from under Delgado's shadow.
I can see how Gomez wanted to start out with Simm and take it from there. I have seen the 'start out with Simm' part; now please give me the 'take it from there' part ![[Biased]](wink.gif) I guess this is one of my hopes for Season 9.
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Originally posted by Dafyd:
Ainley was a camp imitation of Delgado; Simm a more modern updating of Ainley. Gomez, even if her version is based on Simm, takes the character out from under Delgado's shadow.
I view it differently. Delgado's Master was evil. Charming, but evil. But it was a very cold, calculating, sane evil. Ainley's Master, by contrast, was barking mad (or meowing mad in Survival). I didn't object to that because, by character history, he had already been a decomposing corpse of a body and was currently living by body snatching others. That's the sort of thing that might make one go bonkers. While the very brief view we had of Jacobi as the Master seemed more sane, Simms then went back to Master-as-imperfect-anagram-of-"Mad-as-a-Hatter." And Gomez has self-declared as bonkers. Crazy evil is fun, but it would be nice to go back to a cold sane evil version of the Master. In other words, somebody willing to go back under Delgado's shadow.
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Tell you what, I love me some Michelle Gomez. Can't wait to see her do stuff.
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I can't stand Missy - thanks for the warning. I may skip the episode.
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I'm not a great fan either. I prefer my evil 'almost normal/sane but lacking empathy and remorse' rather than pantomime whacky.
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LeRoc
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Ariel: I can't stand Missy - thanks for the warning. I may skip the episode.
I think it's a two-parter, so you may want to skip the next one too ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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Jack o' the Green: I'm not a great fan either. I prefer my evil 'almost normal/sane but lacking empathy and remorse' rather than pantomime whacky.
I like my villains a bit tragic. For example a villain doing terrible things who honestly believes that he's doing good.
I have the feeling that they tried to bring some drama into the Master with this "Gallifreyans are forced to look into the Untempered Schism when they're eight years old" thing. I think there is more to be explored there, more stories to be told. This is what I would be doing.
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Originally posted by Hedgehog:
Delgado's Master was evil. Charming, but evil. But it was a very cold, calculating, sane evil.
Have you thought about some of the schemes Delgado's Master got up to? In his first adventure he tried to take over the world by distibuting deadly plastic daffodils. Then the Doctor tells him that his allies might try to double-cross him and the Master goes oh dear, I hadn't thought of that, I'd better switch sides.
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Originally posted by LeRoc:
I have the feeling that they tried to bring some drama into the Master with this "Gallifreyans are forced to look into the Untempered Schism when they're eight years old" thing. I think there is more to be explored there, more stories to be told.
I don't think that's drama. That's just angst for the sake of angst. Maybe if you brought Romana back and explored how she coped with the experience there'd be an actual story. But as it is, it's just an obviously artificial attempt to create a tragic backstory.
Anyway, I thought you wanted to get away from the Simm Master.
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Dafyd: I don't think that's drama. That's just angst for the sake of angst.
I largely agree with you. It hasn't become dramatic because so far, they have treated this part of his backstory in a rather superficial way. But if they'd set their minds to doing it better (you already gave a suggestion for that), it could become a compelling story and give a lot of interest to this villain.
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Dafyd: Anyway, I thought you wanted to get away from the Simm Master.
I'm just having a light chat here I guess what I want to get away from is the feeling that she is imitating his mannerisms a bit too much.
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I quite liked Missy. I think it was a case of the writers testing the waters to see how fans would react to a female Doctor. If they do go down that road, I think Mariah Gale would be a good choice.
I'm hoping they'll come up with a good new villain. Since the show was brought back with Christopher Eccleston's doctor, I've only found the Weeping Angels and The Silence to be particularly good.
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I wish we could get the current series here in the US.
Our adult daughter is a hard-core fan: she goes to a meeting of a local Dr. Who fan club every Tuesday night.
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I quite liked Missy. I think it was a case of the writers testing the waters to see how fans would react to a female Doctor.
Totally no from my POV, though that's not why I object to Missy: she's just excruciating to watch.
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I'm hoping they'll come up with a good new villain. Since the show was brought back with Christopher Eccleston's doctor, I've only found the Weeping Angels and The Silence to be particularly good.
Yes, I agree. The Daleks have been a bit over-used in recent years I think.
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Originally posted by Dafyd:
Have you thought about some of the schemes Delgado's Master got up to? In his first adventure he tried to take over the world by distibuting deadly plastic daffodils. Then the Doctor tells him that his allies might try to double-cross him and the Master goes oh dear, I hadn't thought of that, I'd better switch sides.
I never said he didn't have a sense of humor. But the point of the daffodils was that you can kill a human with just a few inches of plastic to seal off the nose and mouth--that is cold, calculating evil. The fact that he chose plastic daffodils as a delivery system also made sense. It beat going door to door and hand-applying the plastic gag to each person. The free daffodils wouldn't get everybody, but they would go to enough people to kill enough people to cause massive disruption to society--which was the point.
As for abandoning it because he realized his ally would double-cross him, that also is logical. For example, I often wonder, in WWII, if Germany had developed the atom bomb first, whether Japan wouldn't have "pulled a Master" and thought "Uh oh! Maybe we should switch sides because we can't trust Germany not to double-cross us." Such re-thinking can happen among sane people.
But that was the Delgado Master's weakness: he listened to logical argument and considered it sanely. That beats heck out of Loony Tunes Master who thinks he can blackmail the entire Universe by sending out a tape recording from Earth....
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Originally posted by Hedgehog:
The free daffodils wouldn't get everybody, but they would go to enough people to kill enough people to cause massive disruption to society--which was the point.
I'm not saying that there wasn't some rationale behind it. What I'm saying is that any sane mind capable of coming up with the plan he did come up with would certainly be capable of coming up with a plan that was simpler and more straightforward.
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As for abandoning it because he realized his ally would double-cross him, that also is logical.
It might be logical. The question is, why given that he's such a sane calculating genius, hadn't he given the possibility some thought earlier? It's not as if he's Eddard Stark who would never double-cross anyone and therefore never thinks that anyone would double-cross him.
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Wasn't there an episode where Jo asks the Doctor why the Master is doing such-and-such, and the Doctor explains that he is just like a small boy stirring up an ant pile. Just doing it for the fun of it. Maybe the whole Nestene Consciousness team-up could be explained that way. The method chosen is inefficient, but he doesn't want efficiency. The fun was causing wide-spread but apparently unrelated deaths. To achieve that effect, the daffodils were perfect.
And, because he was doing it for the fun of it, when the Nestenes got big enough to actually be a threat to him, he called it off.
Or, alternatively, he expected that, by the time the Nestene got a foothold (or tentacle-hold, or whatever-hold) on Earth, he expected to be in his TARDIS and away. Didn't the Doctor disable the Master's TARDIS, thereby trapping him on Earth as well? That would be reason enough for the Master to switch sides.
Of course, that would assume that the Master knew his TARDIS had been disabled...but I'll just say that the Doctor whispered that info to him off-camera just before he changed sides....
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[tangent]Does anybody else tend to confuse the Nestene Consciousness with the Great Intelligence?[/tangent]
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Originally posted by Sir Kevin:
I wish we could get the current series here in the US.
Our adult daughter is a hard-core fan: she goes to a meeting of a local Dr. Who fan club every Tuesday night.
BTW, BBC America will be showing the new series more or less concurrently. In other words, the first episode of the new series will be shown on September 19 here in the US as well. The trick is getting access to BBC America. Fortunately, it is part of my regular cable package.
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Originally posted by Hedgehog:
Wasn't there an episode where Jo asks the Doctor why the Master is doing such-and-such, and the Doctor explains that he is just like a small boy stirring up an ant pile. Just doing it for the fun of it.
Isn't that's description of Ecclestone's Doctor? The boyish grin when about to enter a dangerous situation? The Doctor/Master parallels are part of the fun of it.
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Anyone else seen
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Bugger! Anyone else seen this yet?
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I have now - and that is interesting!
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I have now - and that is interesting!
It certainly is. Am really looking forward to the new season now.
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Jack o' the Green: I'm not a great fan either. I prefer my evil 'almost normal/sane but lacking empathy and remorse' rather than pantomime whacky.
I like my villains a bit tragic. For example a villain doing terrible things who honestly believes that he's doing good.
Yes, I like that too. However, it takes a very good actor and script to pull it off well. As illustrated by its extremely poor execution in 'Revenge of the Sith'.
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I have a stray question. As I recall, at the end of the episode about the doctor's daughter, she died, or appeared to, and the doctor left thinking she was gone. After that, she revived and dashed off to have adventures.
If that's correct, then the doctor must still think she is dead. In an episode at the end of season 8, Clara (pretending she is the doctor) recites various facts about him, including the existence of his daughter. How could she know this? (I know, the facetious answer is that she has watched that episode.)
I would like the BBC to create a spin-off series about the daughter. The actress who played the role was charming, but if she does not want to do it again, she could regenerate into another actress. She needs to have a Tardis or at least one of those time-travel wrist gadgets, but it would be fun to have a genuinely young Time Lady learning who she is. What kind of companions should she have? (Nonhuman, to avoid sexual complications.)
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HCH: In an episode at the end of season 8, Clara (pretending she is the doctor) recites various facts about him, including the existence of his daughter. How could she know this? (I know, the facetious answer is that she has watched that episode.)
The way I understand it, it has to do with her being the Impossible Girl. She jumped in to his time-stream thingy, and was therefore present at various times in his life. Something like that.
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Jack o' the Green: However, it takes a very good actor and script to pull it off well. As illustrated by its extremely poor execution in 'Revenge of the Sith'.
I completely agree. In fact, I've all but forgotten about RotS. I like having a female Master, and Michelle Gomez is obviously a good actress, but my hope for Missy is that they would pull something like this off. That would be brilliant.
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I have a stray question. As I recall, at the end of the episode about the doctor's daughter, she died, or appeared to, and the doctor left thinking she was gone. After that, she revived and dashed off to have adventures.
If that's correct, then the doctor must still think she is dead. In an episode at the end of season 8, Clara (pretending she is the doctor) recites various facts about him, including the existence of his daughter. How could she know this? (I know, the facetious answer is that she has watched that episode.)
I would like the BBC to create a spin-off series about the daughter. The actress who played the role was charming, but if she does not want to do it again, she could regenerate into another actress. She needs to have a Tardis or at least one of those time-travel wrist gadgets, but it would be fun to have a genuinely young Time Lady learning who she is. What kind of companions should she have? (Nonhuman, to avoid sexual complications.)
I've gotten the feeling they are gradually building up to something much like this. I'll put a bar of Maya Gold on it.
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Jack o' the Green: However, it takes a very good actor and script to pull it off well. As illustrated by its extremely poor execution in 'Revenge of the Sith'.
I completely agree. In fact, I've all but forgotten about RotS.
Aren't you lucky! Wish I had. Sorry for the reminder! Together with the third of Christopher Nolan's 'Dark Knight Trilogy', it was my largest cinematic disappointment. First world problems and all that.
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I've read a piece somewhere about the guests to be expected in the upcoming series, with hints about David Bowie and Keith Richards being wished for by Capaldi. But the actress who plays Arya Stark in "Game of Thrones" is to be in, and in more than one episode, with an aside about her being a special character.
And my mind went to the first daughter post up thread.
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But the actress who plays Arya Stark in "Game of Thrones" is to be in, and in more than one episode, with an aside about her being a special character.
I'd like it to be Romana. (Although they'd ask Lalla Ward if she could do the regeneration if necessary.)
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Pine Marten: Anyone else seen this yet?
Ohila? Hmm ...
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But the actress who plays Arya Stark in "Game of Thrones" is to be in, and in more than one episode, with an aside about her being a special character.
I wish they wouldn't do that. There are times when I think it's turning into a vehicle for celebrity guest appearances. It doesn't need it.
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I think it's rather that the people who have grown up with it want to be on it, and now have the power to achieve it.
Which makes it rather like trying to watch the Severn Bore with no surfers.
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The Daleks have been a bit over-used in recent years I think.
I think not! My wife and I were on holiday in Cornwall and we visited Land's End in 2007. There was a traveling Dr. Who museum there. The scariest monsters we ever saw in our lives were the
FLYING Daleks! Pity they were out of salt cellars and pepper mills!
My wife does think the Weeping Angels are worse, but they did not exist at the time.
Pity we cannot get a Television Licence!
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One of my best Delgardo moments was last year when I was watching the Daemons and he appeared as the local vicar. Middle Rogueling (aged 14) was audibly shocked.
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Clara is leaving. To be honest, I'm not terribly sad over that. The latest interviews have been all about how very much attuned Clara and the Doctor have become to each other. I think that's a dead end in the long run; I'd like a little more tension between the Doctor and his companion.
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I like Jenna - I hope she is in all sort of other stuff.
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Okay, the stakes have been set. I definitely need to see that one again.
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Well I thought that was rather good. A couple of slow bits - notably the medieval scene, which I didn't like at all - but generally really rather good and, I hope, a setup for a suitably twisty conclusion to the story next week. (If next week is the conclusion - I've been carefully avoiding spoilers.)
I thought Missy was much better than last time round - back to a semi-rational Delgado style Master rather than the twitching maniac we saw from Anthony Ainley onwards. And I thought the Other Guest Character was perfectly acted and really quite disturbing - just how he should be!
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I very much enjoyed it. I agree that Missy was significantly better than last series. Some thought provoking ideas, and nicely set up for next week.
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LeRoc
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Adeodatus: I thought Missy was much better than last time round
Me too. For example when she was dancing. I can imagine Simm dancing, but for him it would be something like "I'm going to dance because I'm mad as a hatter and I want to dance tralala!" In Gomez's case, it was more "I'm going to dance because I'm completely superior to you and I can dance if I want to." That's a nice difference.
I'm not completely convinced by "Missy is the Doctor's best friend" yet. Of course it is a well-known trope that archenemies come to develop a sort of respect for eachother. But I like it when that is subtle, it is a bit too much in your face for me here. Let's see where this goes.
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Adeodatus: notably the medieval scene, which I didn't like at all
Neither did I. The joke "look for tiny anachronisms" and then he comes in on top of a tank playing electric guitar is OK, but they should have left the scene right after that.
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Jack o' the Green: nicely set up for next week.
Definitely! Looking forward to it.
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Well, that was very interesting. I don't really like Missy, but she is interesting this time around.
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BTW What do you think of Clara, the UNIT superwoman? I can't say I'm very fond of that.
(Don't get me wrong, I am not saying that female companions shouldn't have an active role; quite to the contrary. I just don't feel that this is a very interesting way to bring this about.)
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I got the impression that they were trying to bring back the 'genius' bit they had at the beginning, and that we've seen so little of. And that UNIT only contacted her because they couldn't get onto the Doctor and thought she might have more info. (Hoping that isn't a spoiler...)
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Capaldi was playing the guitar for real. Released by Radio Times.
I was fairly sure he must be, partly from watching the fingering, and partly because it wasn't that flash, which made it plausible he could be doing it rather than having Steve Vai doing overdubs
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I am guessing that might be a reason for it lasting so long.
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balaam: Capaldi was playing the guitar for real.
Yes, very cool.
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Schroedinger's cat: I am guessing that might be a reason for it lasting so long.
I don't have a problem with the length of the guitar solo, but the whole speech and him inventing the word 'dude' ... We already had the big anachronism joke, I don't think there was a need for a couple of small ones after that.
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I had a feeling that as well as referencing Star Wars in the cantina, there were hints of Bill and Ted as well.
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