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Does anyone (and especially a certain poster whose name rhymes with "Hot Fritter") know if the MONASTIC BREVIARY used by the Order of the Holy Cross since the late 60s (when it was known as the FOUR OFFICE BREVIARY) is still in print?
I have seen this breviary (ribbonless) at Washington National Cathedral's Museum Store. You can't order most of the books online, however, so your best best is calling them.
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Although the book has been out now for three years, I only recently came upon Daily Liturgical Prayer by Gregory Woolfenden. The only comprehensive comparative study of the Divine Office that I had read up to now was the magisterial work of Robert Taft, SJ, The Liturgy of the Hours East and West. Fr.Woolfenden, once at Rippon College, Oxford and now a pastor of an Orthodox parish in the States,is grounded in Taft, of course, and also in Paul Bradshaw's work. The present volume is a gem, focused upon a simple observation: that in its origin, the daily office was a meditation upon the transition from darkness to light, from sleep to wakefulness and, most importantly, from death to life. The Paschal Vigil serves as a paradigm for this meditation. Thus, the liturgical day properly begins with sunset and ends at sunset, not from sunrise till night. [snip]
I guess this is why Pfatteicher's book is arranged Vespers first. He must've known about that work. Oddly enough, Common Worship: Daily Prayer has noonday prayer (called Prayer During the Day) first because it is the simplest office, so newbies can get acquainted with the basic structure before getting in to the more complex ones.
Of course, this conception of reckoning the liturgical day is Jewish in its origins, I understand.
By the way, Patrick, where did you get that book? I'm curious already.
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Originally posted by catholicedinburgh:
Having looked at the links in this post, these books seem to be exactly what I am looking for. I am unclear about the ordering process for those of us resident in the UK. I have a Switch Card and a PayPal account(for e-bay). No credit cards as I don't want any. Am I able to order these books fron Lancelot Andrewes Press. If so, how???
At the bottom of the link to the monastic diurnal, there is information for paying with a credit card through pay pal, or they take checks or money orders. I don't know about these switch card things, but if you can't make your pay pal account work, then I suggest you email the press to get information on how to pay with a money order. You may need to get some sort of instrument drawn in dollars. On the home page, there is an email address given for enquiries: info@andrewespress.com.
Paypal also claims to take regular bank accounts. I also don't know what a Switch card is, but if you can pay with Paypal for ebay, then I would expect the same type of payment would work for Paypal payments to Lancelot Andrewes Press. My expectation would be that the Lancelot Andrewes verbiage about "pay with a credit card through Paypal" is slightly overly specific and the key part of it is "pay through Paypal."
[This is based on my sketchy model of how Paypal works, not on any experience with LA Press yet.]
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my copy of the Camaldolese choir book arrived in days too! Such a gem. Loved their translation of the veni sancte spiritus.
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Originally posted by J.S. Bach:
I have seen this breviary (ribbonless) at Washington National Cathedral's Museum Store. You can't order most of the books online, however, so your best best is calling them.
Just placed the order. Thanks so much.
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I first discovered Fr. Woolfenden's Daily Liturgical Prayer on the St. Vladimir Seminary (Crestwood, NY) Bookstore web page. You may purchase it from the Bookstore on line. The publisher is Ashgate (UK). Dr. Campbell's Breviary to Liturgy of the Hours is a Pueblo Book (Liturgical Press), as is, I believe, Fr. Taft's Liturgy of the Hours East and West.
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Originally posted by Patrick:
I first discovered Fr. Woolfenden's Daily Liturgical Prayer on the St. Vladimir Seminary (Crestwood, NY) Bookstore web page. You may purchase it from the Bookstore on line. The publisher is Ashgate (UK). Dr. Campbell's Breviary to Liturgy of the Hours is a Pueblo Book (Liturgical Press), as is, I believe, Fr. Taft's Liturgy of the Hours East and West.
Another highly recommended volume in the genre is George Guiver's Company of Voices: Daily Prayer and the People of God. Highly readable and informative, with thought-provoking recommendations for communities.
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Autenrieth Road, I think you posted on this thread that you once sat down with the '79 BCP office lectionary and worked out how much Bible it covered. May I ask how much of the apocrypha/deutercanonicals it covered?
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Originally posted by Autenrieth Road:
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Originally posted by Choirboy:
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Originally posted by catholicedinburgh:
Having looked at the links in this post, these books seem to be exactly what I am looking for. I am unclear about the ordering process for those of us resident in the UK. I have a Switch Card and a PayPal account(for e-bay). No credit cards as I don't want any. Am I able to order these books fron Lancelot Andrewes Press. If so, how???
At the bottom of the link to the monastic diurnal, there is information for paying with a credit card through pay pal, or they take checks or money orders. I don't know about these switch card things, but if you can't make your pay pal account work, then I suggest you email the press to get information on how to pay with a money order. You may need to get some sort of instrument drawn in dollars. On the home page, there is an email address given for enquiries: info@andrewespress.com.
Paypal also claims to take regular bank accounts. I also don't know what a Switch card is, but if you can pay with Paypal for ebay, then I would expect the same type of payment would work for Paypal payments to Lancelot Andrewes Press. My expectation would be that the Lancelot Andrewes verbiage about "pay with a credit card through Paypal" is slightly overly specific and the key part of it is "pay through Paypal."
[This is based on my sketchy model of how Paypal works, not on any experience with LA Press yet.]
Thanks to those who responded. Think I will contact LA press and see what they can tell me.
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If anyone is interested, there is a copy of Howard Galley's elusive Prayer Book Office currently on eBay. It is the first edition of 1980.
Check under breviary and enter worldwide. The item is located in the USA.
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I use Christian Prayer the one volume version of the Liturgy of the Hours. One of the intercessions for Evening Prayer I and II of Corpus Christi reads:
"Christ through your bread you offer the remedy for immortality..."
Should not that read:
".... remedy for mortality"
or am I missing something?
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Originally posted by New Yorker:
I use Christian Prayer the one volume version of the Liturgy of the Hours. One of the intercessions for Evening Prayer I and II of Corpus Christi reads:
"Christ through your bread you offer the remedy for immortality..."
Should not that read:
".... remedy for mortality"
or am I missing something?
A Corpus Christi sermon I read elsewhere refers to a quotation from St Ignatius that included the phrase "medicine of immortality."
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I don't think I'm wrong, am I? It seems like one would say "remedy for mortality." As in "rememdy for the flu" not "remedy for not having the flu."
Oh well.
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I don't think I'm wrong, am I? It seems like one would say "remedy for mortality." As in "rememdy for the flu" not "remedy for not having the flu."
You're not wrong at all. You're making sense, completely. ![[Cool]](cool.gif)
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Ignatius, To the Ephesians 20.2:
Continue to gather together, each and every one of you...in order that you may obey the bishop and the presbytery with an undisturbed mind, breaking one bread, which is the medicine of immortality, the antidote we take in order not to die but to live forever in Jesus Christ.
[Transl. from Holmes's Apostolic Fathers. Search "Inside this book" for medicine.]
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Autenrieth Road, I think you posted on this thread that you once sat down with the '79 BCP office lectionary and worked out how much Bible it covered. May I ask how much of the apocrypha/deutercanonicals it covered?
A smattering.
Wisdom of Solomon and Ecclesiasticus get hopscotched through. Baruch shows up three times (Bar 3:24-37, 4:21-29, 4:36-5:9). 1 Maccabees chapters 1-4 gets read in abridged format. Abridged Judith is available as an alternate to equally abridged Esther. 2 Esdras 2:42-47 is read for All Saints MP.
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Pushy bastard that I am, can I ask if you have spreadsheet documenting your work?
I would use it to pump up the '79 lectionary to cover the entire canon.
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Thanks so much AR--I asked because I am tired of searching out portable King James Bibles with the apoc/deuts (though a friend actually gave me a sweet OOP Cambridge KJV edition with them included last week)and wondered how far I could get by in '79 with just OT and NT.
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lukacs, my notes are at home for the exact periods the deuterocanonicals appear and how often; IIRC Yr 1 Easter 4/5/6, and both Yrs later Propers (within the bracket 22-27, though not even that much). I'll look at them tonight and see what else they tell me.
The Silent Acolyte, I don't have this in electronic format. Is the Daily Office Lectionary online somewhere? It would be interesting to pull that in to a database and program a listing of the omissions. (Check my occupation in my profile ![[Biased]](wink.gif) .) I did this by hand once but don't know where the notes are.
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AR, the BCP is available online in several formats at the following site:
http://tinyurl.com/4l4br
If you actually plug the lectionary into the database that you spoke of, I hope you'll share it--I for one would find that of great interest. If you do get a chance to look into when the AP/DT's get read that would be great as well.
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Originally posted by Scott Knitter:
Another highly recommended volume in the genre is George Guiver's Company of Voices: Daily Prayer and the People of God. Highly readable and informative, with thought-provoking recommendations for communities.
I have the older (light blue cover) edition of this book. I see that it has been either reprinted, or reissued in a second edition. Can anyone say something about what updated content the new edition contains, if any?
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Originally posted by Scott Knitter:
Another highly recommended volume in the genre is George Guiver's Company of Voices: Daily Prayer and the People of God. Highly readable and informative, with thought-provoking recommendations for communities.
I have the older (light blue cover) edition of this book. I see that it has been either reprinted, or reissued in a second edition. Can anyone say something about what updated content the new edition contains, if any?
PREFACE TO THE SECOND EDITION
I am grateful to Christine Smith of Canterbury Press for proposing a modestly revised edition. Most of the text has been changed only in small matters of detail. Chapter 18 [Sacred Poetry] has been more thoroughly revised, and 22 [Prayer Today], for obvious reasons, very largely rewritten. Apart from one or two entries I have not attempted to update the bibliography, for lack of space in the book and time in the diary.
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Anyone have any experience with the DAILY OFFICE SSF, the Franciscan version of CELEBRATING COMMON PRAYER? If one wanted to enrich the BCP office with Franciscan feast day propers would this be a good resource?
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A quick note: Thanks Scott for the Camaldolese ordo. Wouldn't had been able to assemble the Corpus Christi office on my own!
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Originally posted by lukacs:
Anyone have any experience with the DAILY OFFICE SSF, the Franciscan version of CELEBRATING COMMON PRAYER? If one wanted to enrich the BCP office with Franciscan feast day propers would this be a good resource?
I don't have it any more, but yes, it does have a good deal of additional material that could be useful. They have complete propers for the feasts of St. Clare and St. Francis, for example, and there are collects for other Franciscan saints as well. Its calendar is different from the CCP one, in that there are more saints from religious communities mentioned there--not to mention more Marian feasts!
One bit from the Franciscan version that got into the pocket editions is the "Praying Our Farewells" office, which may serve as a good ritual in a community with a departing member, or even a rector.
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Thanks PDC. I may search one out.
The MONASTIC BREVIARY (Holy Cross/S. Helena) arrived last night, and I am very impressed. The BREVIARY is truly a remarkable volume. It is in many ways a fascinating artifact of its historical moment (1976), particularly in its engagement with the then-proposed 1979 BCP materials. I am particularly taken by the foresight shown by the editors in offering a structure of four daily office lessons that codifies the suggested approach of the 1979 BCP while removing some of its strictures, and the balance struck between the anemic seven-week '79 BCP psalm scheme and the one-week Benedictine cursus is just right: the psalmody is substantial without being overwhelming for a lay person. I also like the care taken to calibrate MP and EP with Diurnum and Compline, with substantial but user-friendly propers and something closer to reverent language than the '79 for both little hours; in comparison, the lesser hours of the '79 BCP seem like they were written as an afterthought.
Of course, some of the uncritical acceptance of the 70s reforms in the BREVIARY seems unconscionable in hindsight (do the monks really chant "You are God. We praise you" every morning? I couldn't exclaustrate fast enough) and one wishes they had opted to get permission to use S. DUNSTAN'S plainchant settings for the psalmody and canticles. Still, all in all, if I were on the road and had a copy packed in a messenger bag with a KJV or RSV, and I opted for using the latter for the psalms, the only thing I would absolutely have to paste in would be a better Te Deum.
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I mistakenly assumed the S. DUNSTAN psalter was a reprint, so that bit about using it for the BREVIARY makes no sense.
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Originally posted by lukacs:
The MONASTIC BREVIARY (Holy Cross/S. Helena) [...] the foresight shown by the editors in offering a structure of four daily office lessons that codifies the suggested approach of the 1979 BCP while removing some of its strictures,
Which strictures are you thinking of, and what does the Breviary do instead?
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It sets forth a table of lessons in which the OT lessons from the BCP office's Year One are said at Matins, and the OT lesson from Year Two are said at Vespers, invariably, each year, without flip-flopping between the two offices from year to year. It then assigns the Epistle readings to Matins and the Gospel readings to Vespers. It fully includes most of the passages marked off with parentheses for optional use in the BCP tables. It also adds a fuller course of feast-day proper lessons than the '79.
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Originally posted by lukacs:
Still, all in all, if I were on the road and had a copy packed in a messenger bag with a KJV or RSV, and I opted for using the latter for the psalms, the only thing I would absolutely have to paste in would be a better Te Deum.
There are copies floating around in used-breviary-land of the Four-Week Breviary, the OHC's early edition of A Monastic Breviary. It's a white paperback, and it uses the RSV psalter, as it was published just before it was decided to use the newly translated Prayer Book Psalter Revised in the 1979 BCP (and in A Monastic Breviary).
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A Blessed Solemnity to you all!
I am unsure if my question goes here or in the thread about feasts. I'll try my luck here.
I have been using The English Office for the last few months. Even though it has a few pages in the Proper of Seasons, the Sacred Heart is not mentioned in any of the BCP (1928, 1940's and before) lectionaries.
If you are using The English Office, what readings are you using for today?
(BTW, I ordered The Anglican Breviary today. Perhaps its a graduation of sorts? ![[Smile]](smile.gif) )
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Originally posted by aredstatemystic:
I have been using The English Office for the last few months. Even though it has a few pages in the Proper of Seasons, the Sacred Heart is not mentioned in any of the BCP (1928, 1940's and before) lectionaries.
Sacred Heart isn't mentioned in some modern Anglican monastic breviaries, either, like the Monastic Diurnal Revised, presumably because there's no provision in the BCP.
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I use the EO. The answer to your question is itself a question--which office lectionary do you use? I would use the given lessons for the day from that lectionary, and use the Sacred Heart propers provided in the EO to observe the day.
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I believe Sacred Heart is in Celebrating Common Prayer under the name 'Divine Compassion'. Anyone doing a whole Octave?
This New Liturgical Movement article article hints on an Antiphonary in the making to supplement the Mundelein Psalter. Looks like a Meinrad version of Litton's Plainsong Psalter in the making.
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Originally posted by lukacs:
[...]wondered how far I could get by in '79 with just OT and NT.
What would you read instead on the days when leaving out the deuterocanonicals? Or would you drop the OT reading for those days?
[now that I have my notes with me:]
The Deuterocanonicals are covered about half as densely as the rest of the OT. By very rough estimates, they take up 20% of the full OT, but less than 10% of the Daily Office readings.
Leaving them out, there seem to be three (and a half) types of things one is leaving out.
1) Single readings that drop in on isolated days, but are thematically connected to the day in some way, e.g. 2 Esdras 2:42-47 on All Saints Day. (Curiously, all three of the All Saints Eve & Day OT readings are deuterocanonical.)
1+1/2) Single readings ditto, except the thematic connection to the day is not so obvious to this neophyte.
2) Readings that coordinate with the larger picture of the In Course readings. For example Year 1 is about to spend the rest of Ordinary time telling Israel's history from after the conquest. It begins with Ecclus 42-46 (excerpts) to summarize Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Aaron and Joshua. It ends with 1 Macc 1-4 (excerpts) to conclude with the Maccabean restoration of the temple. (Hmmm, this might be the only sequence like this.)
3) Readings that read "entire" books (heavily abridged by hopscotching). Just Wisdom and Ecclus as I mentioned previously. Leaving these out would gain you 5 1/2 weeks to read other parts of the OT in great chunks. (Leading into The Silent Acolyte's pumping-up project...: which chunks?)
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I got my Mundaline Psalter a couple of days ago and noticed that one of the psalms for Holy Saturday isn't pointed. So folks can add that to their list of errata. But, on the whole, it looks pretty good.
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I got my Mundaline Psalter a couple of days ago and noticed that one of the psalms for Holy Saturday isn't pointed. So folks can add that to their list of errata. But, on the whole, it looks pretty good.
Thanks. I've captured that in my list. I'm sure there are many more to capture, but I haven't prayed the Mundelein Psalter for a few weeks (although I do like it).
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The Maronite Liturgy of the Hours appears frequently on ebay; now a podcast of the morning and evening prayers from these expensive and exotic books are available here.
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The Maronite Liturgy of the Hours appears frequently on ebay; now a podcast of the morning and evening prayers from these expensive and exotic books are available here.
Thanks for the list, DitzySpike, but I'm going to do myself a favor and not even look at it! ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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Well, we just said our first parish Sunday Evening Prayer, and it was a smashing success given the heat in our un-AC'ed Lady Chapel. Those present included the Rector, my wife, our toddler, one lovely parishioner, and myself. I read the office from the front pew, facing the Altar, and the Rector read the Lessons from the front pew on the other side, facing the four of us. We said the office according to the 1662 BCP ordinary, but we only read the single psalm appointed for the evening in the 1979 office lectionary, in the Coverdale translation, as well as the Epistle and NT lessons from the same, in the RSV translation. We closed with the seasonal Marian Antiphon.
We gave other readers the option to read from Rite I '79 EP with its psalm translations and to skip the Marian Antiphon if they desired. So far we have four readers (inlucing the rector and myself) committed and each prefers the 1662 with Antiphon.
We plan to keep it up until such time as it is only the Rector and I for a few months in a row.
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I'm sorry it has taken me this long to respond: work and family obligations kept me away. Thanks for y'all's help!
I have been using the 1928 BCP lectionary. Are there any better suggestions?
What I ended up doing for The Sacred Heart was just borrow four readings from the Mass from the other two years.
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redstsatemystic, I note that the PEOPLE'S ANGLICAN MISSAL (available at anglicanbooks.com) provides an Epistle and Gospel for Corpus Christi, as well as many other feasts of note. That's one option--
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. . . which would have been helpful on Corpus Christi. Sorry . . .
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redstatemystic, here is an immensely useful booklet that does indeed have Sacred Heart office readings and is issued for every year:
http://tinyurl.com/2x3zn4
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redstsatemystic, I note that the PEOPLE'S ANGLICAN MISSAL (available at anglicanbooks.com) provides an Epistle and Gospel for Corpus Christi, as well as many other feasts of note. That's one option--
Actually, there ARE Sacred Heart propers in the ANGLICAN MISSAL, in the table of movable feasts.
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Originally posted by Mama Thomas:
Selections of Psalms
God the Creator: 8, 19; 33; 65, 111; 104; 145; 147
God the Redeemer: 33; 102:15; 103; 111, 126; 113, 114; 130, 138
God the Judge: 1, 11; 7; 46, 97; 50; 62, 82; 75, 76; 90; 96; 98
God's Glory: 18:1-20; 29, 99; 36:5, 46; 148; 150
God's Sovereignty: 24, 93; 46, 47; 72; 89:1-19; 96, 97; 98, 99; 112, 146; 145
God's Wisdom: 33; 104; 111, 113; 139; 145; 147
God's Law: 19; 50; 62, 111; 119; 147
God's Providence: 23, 121; 33; 34; 37:26, 124; 89:1-19; 139; 145; 146; 147
God's Mercy: 23, 100; 32, 130; 57, 61; 62, 63; 73; 77; 85; 86; 103; 118; 145
God the Creator: 2, 110; 8, 113; 85, 111; 89:1-30; 102:15; 132
The Passion: 22; 40:1-16; 42; 54, 130; 69:1-22,30-37; 88; 116
The Church: 46, 111; 48; 84; 122, 133; 147
Worship: 5; 26, 43; 63, 65; 66; 67, 122; 84, 138; 96, 100; 102:15; 116
Thanksgiving: 30, 67; 65; 92, 100; 98, 111; 103; 107; 116; 134, 138; 145; 147; 148; 150
Prayer: 4, 5; 17; 20, 28; 31; 54, 61; 84; 86; 102:15; 141:1-4, 142
Trust in God: 27; 31; 57, 146; 62, 63; 71; 73; 77; 91; 118; 121, 124, 125; 123, 143
God our Refuge: 4, 20; 17; 37; 46; 49; 54, 61; 71; 91; 103; 121, 146
Divine Guidance: 25; 43, 85; 80; 111, 112
In Time of Trouble: 3, 11; 12, 13; 18:1-20; 20, 46; 30, 146; 40:1-16; 49; 57, 85; 62, 63; 80; 86; 90; 107:1-16; 118; 144
Righteousness: 1, 15; 11, 12; 18:21-35; 19; 26; 34; 40:1-16; 92; 111, 112
Peace: 29, 46; 76; 85; 98, 100; 124, 125, 126
The Transitoriness: of Life 39; 49; 90; 102:15
The Hope of Immortality: 16, 146; 30, 121; 42; 49; 66; 73; 103; 116; 139
Morning: 3, 20; 5, 63; 90; 143
Evening: 4, 31:1-6, 91, 134; 13, 121; 16, 17; 77
Penitential: 6; 32; 38; 51; 102; 130; 143
Preparation for Holy Communion: 23, 36:5; 25; 26, 43; 41; 63; 84, 122; 85; 86; 130, 133; 139
Thanksgiving after Holy Communion: 8, 15; 18:1-20; 19; 27; 29, 30; 34; 100, 110; 103; 118; 145; 150
I'm posting this here in Daily Offices with the hope that this thread will be archived in Limbo as the previous one was.
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I recently heard from an oblate of the Community of Jesus that she received from them a copy of their multivolume Liturgy of the Hours, adapted from Thesaurus Liturgiae Horarum Monasticae and presented in Latin and English. This is apparently the community's own version for chanting the Office and is not the Rome-published Liturgia Horarum.
So breviary lust flares up once again! I think the fact that copies are probably unavailable to non-oblates (and non-members of the Community) makes the problem that much worse. ![[Tear]](graemlins/tear.gif)
Of course, any insight into how one might get the Community to sell a copy would be welcome. I've inquired but haven't yet heard back.
Gorgeous Web site.
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Gorgeous yes, but not particularly informative....
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Gorgeous yes, but not particularly informative....
Agreed. I once inquired about the full liturgical schedule followed by the Community (just out of curiosity; I made it clear I wasn't going to try to attend a nonpublic service), and it was as though I had inquired as to the system administrator's password for their main computer. I was told I would be most welcome to attend Vespers and Mass, which I already knew, and that the Community celebrated nonpublic liturgies at other times, but they wouldn't say when. Guess one has to go there on retreat to find out.
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