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Triple Tiara
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What a nasty boorish crowd at McCain's speech - and indeed, a gracious speech by McCain.
Congrats USA!
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Anglican_Brat
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I think the American people are best at judging competence. If Obama and the Democrats fuck up, the Americans should throw them out in four years. The reason McCain and the Republicans lost is simple. They fucked up the economy and America's foreign policy.
Competence, not ideology, at the end, should be the judge of elections.
Congratulations to my American brothers and sisters. I'll sleep well tonight.
[ 05. November 2008, 03:30: Message edited by: Anglican_Brat ]
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mousethief
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We voted by mail. We vote at the kitchen table, with all the papers and state-published election pamphlets spread out before us, arguing each candidate and each proposition (etc) back and forth, and the kids are welcome to listen in if they wish (and chirp in). I wouldn't have it any other way.
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Erin
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If that McCain had shown up during the campaign, it would have been a helluva lot closer. So right now, I'm kinda feeling like he can go fuck himself.
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Dee.
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Congratulations US,
Never thought I would see it, this wee kiwi is all teary and goosebumpy. McCains Speech was really gracious, full credit to him for that.
No more Bush
Thank you God
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Mr. Spouse
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Originally posted by FreeJack:
The time zone issue is not really a factor in single time zone British election coverage.
It isn't a factor at all in the UK!
As my first US election witnessed first hand, it is a bit weird though to watch the results coming through and the winner declared by 8.30 in the evening here in California.
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FreeJack
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From the coverage here, the impression given is that McCain was still thought to be the best candidate that the Republicans had, with the almost impossible task of keeping the right-wing conservatives energised without losing his moderate / maverick independent supporters. In the end, looks like he kept the conservatives and lost the independents. If he had been more of his own man and gone for the independents what would have been the consequences of losing the right-wing conservatives?
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Hedgerow Priest
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![[Yipee]](graemlins/spin.gif) RESULT!!!!
McCain:Nice speech mate ![[Overused]](graemlins/notworthy.gif)
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The Bede's American Successor
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Originally posted by mousethief:
We voted by mail. We vote at the kitchen table, with all the papers and state-published election pamphlets spread out before us, arguing each candidate and each proposition (etc) back and forth, and the kids are welcome to listen in if they wish (and chirp in). I wouldn't have it any other way.
I know.
Those people who still vote like they are going to an outhouse don't know what they are missing. You quickly get over waiting in line at the polling place.
And, vote by mail increases turnout.
This actually gives our current governor problems in her re-election race. The two largest counties in Washington still has polling places (with absentee optional for all). King and Pierce Counties are two of the stronger Democratic counties in the state, but have lower percentage turnout.
Last year Governor Gregoire (D) won by about 150 total votes statewide. This was a record for being close.
You think she would have found the money in the state budget to pay Pierce and King to go all vote-by-mail for this year, just in case. ![[Biased]](wink.gif)
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Erin
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Originally posted by FreeJack:
If he had been more of his own man and gone for the independents what would have been the consequences of losing the right-wing conservatives?
He wouldn't have. There is no way on God's green earth that the Republican base would have voted for a black man whose middle name is Hussein and whose father was a foreign national from Africa (!!). McCain could have literally told the Republican base to go fuck itself with a rusted tire iron and they would have voted for him anyway, because who else did they have? The very most that would have happened is that some would have stayed home and not voted at all, but really, let a black man win?
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Zach82
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I'm not going to say the Democrats have power wrapped up for a generation, but I think it's safe to predict that the Republican coalition is going to explode in midair and fall screeching to the earth with this crushing loss. My prediction, based on nothing: the libertarians will head for a third party while religious conservatives will run a line of unelectable crackpots. Here's hoping anyway....
Zach
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Jerry Boam
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Thank God.
Tears of joy flowing here.
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Alfred E. Neuman
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OMG. President Barack Hussein Obama II. It's still sinking in.
Can't wait for the acceptance speech in Chicago.
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Pigwidgeon
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![[Axe murder]](graemlins/lovedrops.gif)
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The Bede's American Successor
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quote:
Originally posted by Erin:
If that McCain had shown up during the campaign, it would have been a helluva lot closer. So right now, I'm kinda feeling like he can go fuck himself.
But that McCain wouldn't excite the Republican base, so they would have stayed home.
The problem with being a maverick.
He was damned if you do, and damned if you don't. This is why you don't let non-party people help choose your candidate.
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Nicolemr
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OK, irt's starting to sink in a little now.
Wish I could stay up and celebrate with everyone (Hi Jerry B, btw, long time no see) but I have to get to bed.
*sigh of deep satisfaction*
Life is good.
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Banner Lady
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Congratulations America. I hope you can support your new President through every threat ahead, because it sure ain't gonna be plain sailing. But my heart is so glad at this choice, and it will be interesting to see how Obama continues to empower all those at grass roots level who really care what happens next. If he can raise funds for his own campaign from millions of ordinary Americans - many of who never bothered to vote before; then I am sure he can tackle your financial crisis with the same pragmatism. I believe you have elected the right visionary for the job. ![[Votive]](graemlins/votive.gif) ascending.
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talexa
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Originally posted by Pigwidgeon:
Ditto!
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RadicalWhig
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I've been checking the Arab media. "Barack Hussein Obama" looks good in Arabic. Maybe there is a chance for America to win back some friends and supporters in the hot and sandy parts of the world.
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Wesley J
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![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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comet
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I can decide whether to cry or howl or laugh or run around in circles until I puke.
I'm sorta doing all three.
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ChaliceGirl
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Holy Electoral Vote Count Batman!
Never did I think Obama would win by this much!
Party at my house: Jan 21, 2009!
Reason: To celebrate Obama coming in, and to kiss Dubya's butt goodbye!
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comet
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can't decide.
dangit.
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comet
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and here he comes.
crying it is.
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mousethief
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Ooooh "gay and straight" --- in the victory speech. Wooohoooo!
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ChaliceGirl
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A President who is only 8 years older than I. Holy cow!
The Phillies win the World Series and now this! I think Hell just froze over!
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comet
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woot! all that and a new puppy!
(that man has class! )
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mousethief
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What African American person, standing at a "blacks only" drinking fountain in 1964, would believe that there was a little black boy alive who would become president? I really do feel proud of this great country of ours.
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St. Stephen the Stoned
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New puppy for White House!
Yippeeeeee!
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RadicalWhig
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I haven't felt this good about the future of the world since Alex Salmond was elected as First Minister of Scotland in 2007.
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Alfred E. Neuman
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...a measured and heartfelt address - preach it Barack.
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The Bede's American Successor
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quote:
Originally posted by mousethief:
What African American person, standing at a "blacks only" drinking fountain in 1964, would believe that there was a little black boy alive who would become president? I really do feel proud of this great country of ours.
Commentators mentioned that when BHO was born (a number of years after I was born ![[Eek!]](eek.gif) ), his parents marriage was illegal in a large number of states.
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Triple Tiara
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Getting a bit Martin Luther King there!
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Orb
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He's just made a big promise. But if you don't believe it, I guess you leave the country.
I think this is bigger than the United States putting a man on the moon. Who's with me?
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St. Stephen the Stoned
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Yes, a good speech from McCain. I even felt it was sincere. I really believe it was. And an excellent speech from Obama (still going on as I write). No boos in his audience though.
Well done America, and thank you.
This is not a time for cynecism, (even if I could spell it!). This is a time for GIN!
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RadicalWhig
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I really wish I didn't have to get up and go to work in a few hours time, because it is time for a strong celebratory drink.
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mousethief
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he makes a damn good preacher!
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The5thMary
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Thank God! Thank God, Obama won! Oh, hallelujah! Oh, Lordy day, I may have to celebrate tomorrow with hundreds of my closest friends! Yippeeeeeeeeeeee!
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comet
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yep. I'm blubbering.
this is so damaging to my cynical chick reputation.
I'd just about given up on this country. OMG things might just bve okay.
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Triple Tiara
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Indeed MT!
And it certainly worked to stir up some hope across the world, not just in the US!
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The Bede's American Successor
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quote:
Originally posted by mousethief:
he makes a damn good preacher!
Name one African-American politician in the US that wouldn't?
One. That's all I ask.
Obama just is a bit more polished, probably based upon education.
(Many of them are also licensed/ordained preachers. Take the Executive of King County, Washington, for example.)
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Orb
Eye eye Cap'n!
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It's the "finger pressed to the screen" that broke me...
Not the full-blown waterworks though. Maybe when he gets inaugurated!
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The5thMary
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Originally posted by BillyPilgrim:
Yes, a good speech from McCain. I even felt it was sincere. I really believe it was. And an excellent speech from Obama (still going on as I write). No boos in his audience though.
Well done America, and thank you.
This is not a time for cynecism, (even if I could spell it!). This is a time for GIN!
Or, for those of us who don't drink... hot chocolate?!
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Alfred E. Neuman
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That was easily the best Presidential election acceptance speech in history. Short, eloquent, inspirational and to-the-point. Now - if they would just tone down the Lord of the Rings soundtrack. Gack.
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The5thMary
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Originally posted by Orb:
It's the "finger pressed to the screen" that broke me...
Not the full-blown waterworks though. Maybe when he gets inaugurated!
Yeah, during Obama's speech I could feel the tears working their way up my throat but I held fast and didn't start crying. The Inauguration though... I KNOW I'm going to dissolve in a puddle of tears and sobbing.
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The Bede's American Successor
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Originally posted by Gort:
That was easily the best Presidential election acceptance speech in history. Short, eloquent, inspirational and to-the-point. Now - if they would just tone down the Lord of the Rings soundtrack. Gack.
What LOTR soundtrack?
(I'm listening to KPLU/NPR.)
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The5thMary
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Originally posted by mousethief:
Ooooh "gay and straight" --- in the victory speech. Wooohoooo!
THAT was sooooooo cool!! I did think to myself that that would no doubt inflame the haters even more, though.
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comet
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Originally posted by Paddy O'Furniture:
I did think to myself that that would no doubt inflame the haters even more, though.
fuck'em.
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Erin
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You people are made of STONE, I swear to God, I have been crying since MSNBC called it.
I feel sorry for Alaska, though, because Palin looked pissed.
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St. Stephen the Stoned
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Originally posted by Paddy O'Furniture:
quote:
Originally posted by mousethief:
Ooooh "gay and straight" --- in the victory speech. Wooohoooo!
THAT was sooooooo cool!! I did think to myself that that would no doubt inflame the haters even more, though.
This ******-lovin' commie faggot is SOOOOOO happy!
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