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Curiosity killed ...
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Glad to hear your birthday was enjoyable piglet.
Because I went looking, there's a NY Times article about the use of kempt, gruntled and couth. Apparently couth originally meant "known and familiar" and uncouth, "unknown, foreign, strange". Couth then died out but was revived by Max Beerbohm in 1896, as a retronym, as PG Wodehouse did famously with gruntled:
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“I could see that, if not actually disgruntled, he was far from being gruntled.”
eta - I started this post to ask if there was anything we could do for Uncle Pete or Welease Woderick practically.
[ 11. February 2018, 08:21: Message edited by: Curiosity killed ... ]
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Ck, I do not know about any way of helping Pete. There are others heree who may know.
Pete and I have had a lengthy discussion about helpoing WW. I think the conclusion was the he desperately wanted podcasts to listen to. We covered a wide range of helps and new developments in that area but it was podcasts he was after.
[ 11. February 2018, 09:06: Message edited by: Lothlorien ]
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Pete's surgery was tricky, apparently, but they believe they have got all of the tumour. He is now recovering. I have spoken to family and they cannot think of anything that he needs right now but, once he is feeling a bit better, they will ask him. He said he didn't want cards, but it's always nice to annoy him just a little bit so if anyone wants to send one and does not have his address, feel free to send them to me and I will parcel them up and send them with mine.
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Thanks for the update, Smudgie. I like the idea of being slightly naughty and sending cards anyway. Glad to hear that he is through the surgery okay and hope he mends up quickly. (Yesterday, I tried to send you a pm but I fear I clicked the wrong button and sent you an email instead!)
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Thanks for the positive update, Smudgie.
![[Votive]](graemlins/votive.gif) continuing for Uncle Pete.
Meanwhile, couth in more recent times has apparently meant 'sophisticated', or 'refined'.
In Chaucer's Canterbury Tales, however, if I recall my Middle English correctly, it did indeed mean 'known', as in 'couthe in sondry londes' ('known [of] in various countries').
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Piglet
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Thanks for the definitions, folks - interesting stuff! I do like the idea of being gruntled. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
Glad to hear Uncle Pete's op. went well - wishing him a full and speedy recovery.
The weather didn't get too much worse today, although D. decided that discretion was the better part of valour and we went down our road rather than trying to go up, as you can be sure that if you need to get a good run at it, some eejit will come along the main road at the top in a truck* and you'll have to stop, losing all your hard-earned momentum.
* in our experience, most eejits drive trucks. ![[Devil]](graemlins/devil.gif)
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L'organist
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Transfiguration today, which was a good thing because it meant we could have cheery hymns ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
Now I can spend the evening trying to draw-up a list for a Deanery confirmation later in the year to cover music/worship traditions from our place (NEH) to one place that only uses an overhead projector for the words of songs that are played on a tape ![[Eek!]](eek.gif)
In other news: we're expecting a few extras on Wednesday because it seems half the churches in the deanery aren't having a service for Ash Wednesday.
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I assume you had Stay Master stay
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My friends, the news from Canada is not good. Uncle Pete has suffered multiple organ failure. He is unconscious and on a ventilator and his family are meeting with the doctors tomorrow to discuss some difficult decisions.
Please hold him in your prayers, together with P and S as they meet with his doctors. And remember Wodders - I am contacting him to break the news which will hit him very hard.
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quote:
Originally posted by Smudgie:
My friends, the news from Canada is not good. Uncle Pete has suffered multiple organ failure. He is unconscious and on a ventilator and his family are meeting with the doctors tomorrow to discuss some difficult decisions.
Please hold him in your prayers, together with P and S as they meet with his doctors. And remember Wodders - I am contacting him to break the news which will hit him very hard.
Oh, no! ![[Waterworks]](graemlins/bawling.gif)
But prayers for Pete and his family and Wodders.
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Pete and Wodders, hoping and praying
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Piglet
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Pete and Wodders
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for Pete and those who love him.
Sometimes life is just shitty.
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For Uncle Pete, WW, and all who care for them.
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I imagine that many of you will have already seen the other threads here letting us know that Uncle Pete was promoted to Glory earlier today.
Rest eternal grant unto him, O Lord, and let light perpetual shine upon him.
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RIP, Uncle Pete
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I'm afraid it's not been a very good week; my dad passed away peacefully earlier today. My brother and sister both managed to see him before the end, and I think he'd have understood that logistics prevented me from being there.
They're hoping the funeral can be arranged for a week on Saturday, which should give us time to get ourselves over without too much of a rush.
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Brenda Clough
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Sorry to hear this!
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L'organist
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So sorry to hear your news Piglet.
I know your Dad had missed your Mum and that the decline was a gentle one. Love and Prayers for you all
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M.
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Yes, sorry to hear your news, Piglet.
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I'm so sorry to hear about your dad, Piglet.
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Piglet, may God hold you, D, & all those who loved your father, in the palm of his hand.
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{{Piglet}}, I'm so sorry.
for Piglet's Dad's friends and family
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((Piglet))
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piglet and family
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Oh Piglet, what can I say?
PM me if you need a blart or a shoulder.
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Piglet
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Thanks, everyone.
The funeral is a week from Friday (23rd), which should give us plenty of time to get over the pond and up to Orkney. We're now in the process of working out our best timetable - we think flying to Edinburgh, picking up a hire car and driving north for the funeral, then back down, drive down to Essex to see D's mum (we couldn't really be over there and not see her) then back up to Edinburgh for flights home.
It may look like a big faff, but we'll have to travel the length of the country each way no matter how we cut it, and this looks like the least faff ...
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You live in the Americas. Driving the length of a nation is culturally appropriate for you!
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I am so very sorry, Piglet.
I hope all the arrangements work as you hope they will, and that travel is as stress-free as it possibly can be.
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Deepest condolences Piglet. I still miss my dad after 20 years.
We flew into Edinburgh a couple of years ago when visiting my cousins in Dunfermline. It's such a civilised experience compared with the zoo at Heathrow.
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What a wonderful thing LVER.
One of the nicest things that ever happened to me was when a teenage girl of my aqauintance turned up to my wedding (I got married rather late) with the shawl I'd knitted for her when she was a baby. She might have been seventeen but she said it was still her comfort blanket.
I'm sure bébé en rouge will love it too.
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Oh super, it arrived! You never know, when sending items over the pond. I have had good success with baby blankets; one of mine was carried by the little boy until it was essentially nothing but a handful of ratty threadbare strands. He continued to drag it with him everywhere, until finally when they were staying at a hotel at Disney World the maids thought it was trash and swept it up. I believe his mother told him that Mickey is keeping it.
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lver - pass most of the snuggliness you find in Brenda's blanket on to bebe en rouge, but do keep a bit back for yourself.
Snuggliness is always a Good Thing to have.
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Snuggliness for the win
The only thing that is keeping me warm at the moment in this Godforsaken draft trap of a house is a jumper that I inherited from my Granddad. It's not anything special, not handmade or knitted, but it is lovely and toasty. The strangest things can become heirlooms.
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Yes, my Favouritist Pullover In All The World was acquired years, nay, eons ago, from a charity shop.
It had holes in the elbows, and at the front (IIRC), but was the snuggliest garment I think I've ever possessed.
It passed into the Great Ball Of Knitting In The Sky some years ago, having been damaged beyond salvation when I fell into the river adjacent to the Episcopal Palace (don't ask - it was one of those days).
I do still have some snuggly pullovers, though - I'm wearing one now.
It has a nice hole in the right elbow!
![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
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That'll be to let the air circulate ...
In the previous château I was often glad of snuggly sweaters (and blankets - there was always one on the sofa during the winter), as it was a very draughty old shack. The new one, being new (well, about 12 years old) is much better sealed against the Interesting Weather™ we get in these parts, so I rarely feel the need any more.
We've got our flights booked - we're heading over the Pond on Monday. We managed to get a reasonable deal, apart from the $127 (about £72) we're having to pay to put a suitcase into the hold.
$127??? ![[Mad]](angryfire.gif)
I'm beginning to think they should charge you to take hand-baggage instead; after all, it holds everyone else up while some blithering idiot tries to squeeze a suitcase the size of a small car into the overhead locker. And really, don't they think you might need a full-size case if you're travelling half-way round the world?
In other news, I heard today that my cousin L., with whom I was best mates before we left Orkney, but with whom I'd rather lost touch, died this morning of complications following surgery. She was 53.
This really hasn't been a very good week. ![[Frown]](frown.gif)
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Oh, piglet, I'm so sorry to hear this.
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for Piglet and your upcoming travels. I hope they pass without incident. Is there any chance your cousin’s funeral will take place while you are there?
Could you not just wear all your clothes at once, Michelin man style, and hand luggage for shoes and toiletries? I mean it might get a bit warm but think of the savings ![[Two face]](graemlins/scot_twoface.gif)
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Curiosity killed ...
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Really sorry to hear that piglet.
Hope your scramble across the Pond is not too exhausting and you manage to cram everything you need into your one suitcase. There's been news coverage on the charging policies of airlines, where the headline price looks good, but if you want to take any luggage or sit together surcharges apply. (I was going to be naughty and suggest if you were in Essex on Saturday 24 you could make the Absent Friends Meet, but I doubt you're in the mood now.)
Yesterday had its moments. Tesco has stopped stocking the one and only washing powder that neither of us is allergic to. I am currently washing rather too much of my wardrobe in the forlorn hope that I will have some work clothes at the end of this and am fast running out of safe washing powders. Tesco stocks the liquid version from the same manufacturer, but it contains lavender which makes my daughter as ill as the cannabis I'm trying to wash out. And who wants to smell strongly of lavender?
We were cautiously sniffing the hypoallergenic options wondering if any was suitable when my daughter reacted to one of them. Cue leaving fast, via the checkout, with her glued to the inhaler and spacer. Usually she prefers to tough it out as using the Epipen means calling an ambulance and trip to A&E. First bench she collapsed, I misused the Epipen and was sent two ambulances, one a paramedic car. Partly because I was with her, partly because we were so blasé* about it and partly because we'd been sent a paramedic doctor, she didn't have to go to hospital so we were dropped home by the ambulance, but that little episode took an hour and a half, plus my daughter trying to sleep it off yesterday afternoon.
The Job™ I escaped at the end of October is begging me to come and help out as one of the administrators is off sick for a month and the other is new, replacing someone on maternity leave. I am reluctant on so many counts, including the hour and a half commute each way when we are still trying to get the flat safe for my daughter and she cannot leave the flat safely alone much of the time. I am already committed locally two days a week and am negotiating for that to continue when the current cover ends, but The Job™ are so desperate that they are prepared to work around anything, having to work hours to get home. My collywobbles were added to by my successor phoning me up this week delighted I will be available to help her. Fortunately this has not been organised with the agency, who I contacted yesterday to see if they knew anything about it.
* blasé - she looks like this whenever her dose of antihistamine is running out - first thing in the morning particularly.
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CK, I'm really sorry to hear of your ongoing struggles.
My life has been transformed by using Ecover's Zero washing products, with just a bit of their laundry bleach as a whitening agent/stain remover when necessary. I get out of bed still able to breathe, and don't have to dodge any room in which my washing is drying. Until I made the switch, I hadn't realised how allergic I'd become to everyday perfumes.
Apologies to hosts wary of adverts, but I think this is apposite and might be helpful given CK's dilemma. I have to get it from my local health food shop because it's not in supermarkets, but it is definitely worth the effort for me.
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quote:
Originally posted by Curiosity killed ...:
It's Ecover we use too - and it's what Tesco has just stopped stocking.
The Zero range is quite specific and, for me, completely transformative. Its bottles have 'zero' on them in large capital letters, and they contain absolutely no perfumes of any kind, or any ingredient with a detectable odour.
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Curiosity killed ...
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Ah, we've been using the washing powder, whether I'd prefer to use liquid given the option, or not. That is also scent free. It looks as if I will le taking a circuitous route to tomorrow's destination, via a big Waitrose; they apparently stock the Zero liquid, as does Tesco, just not my local one.
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