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Paul.
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I run Linux Mint 4 which is based on Gutsy and it installed Java 1.6 out of the box. I've been able to run the Cafe fine.
However I'm not sure which repository the Java install came from.
Mint is great, IMO, but it might be a bit OTT for a slimmed down machine like the Eee PC.
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Random Cathoholic
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Originally posted by Alex Cockell:
My question - those here who are running Ubuntu - is the required version of Java (1.6?) on their production repositories, or installed as part of the base build when installing 8.1 (or 7.10)?
I'm running Gutsy on my Thinkpad, and I've not had any problem with the Cafe. It Just Works(C)(R)(TM).
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Alex Cockell
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Umm - remind me... Gutsy Gibbon is Ubuntu 7.10? 8.1's Hardy something, isn't it?
I had a natter with ASUS today during my lunch hour - and it would appear that Flash 9 and Java 1.6 are being worked on. 1.5 is supplied out of the box. I'll have to email them tomorrow (all the PC-purchase stuff is being done at work as I'm more likely to be placing the final order during my lunch break) so the assistant I talked to has all the questions to forward on. Turns out that with the 900's 1024x600 display, 20Gb SSD etc - at £329 - would make a nice mobile drivce on steroids (Skype et al will be quite helpful as well - just an annoyingly cramped kbd.. and I'd prefer to wait till the 6-cell batteries are out).
I know it's not the best place to ask - but to those running THinkpads - how much memory? Get the 2nd gig?
(found a good option at linuxemporium.co.uk - the r61i)
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Gwaelod
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You need Java 1.5 or above.
Oh, and I updated the software this evening to include more smileys. There's a little menu too so you don't have to remember all the shortcuts.
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Curiosity killed ...
Ship's Mug
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But the shortcuts add another dimension in the use of the smileys!
Thank you Gwaelod ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
[ 17. April 2008, 22:32: Message edited by: Curiosity killed ... ]
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Melon
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Originally posted by Alex Cockell:
Also - I'm thinking of getting an ASUS EEE Linux-based unit when the EEE 900 (1Gb memory, 20Gb SSD, 1024 horizontal display, slightly larger keys) comes out... but anyone used one of those against the cafe?
My 701 worked out of the box with the new café, and also works fine now that I've installed Kubuntu on it (I think I downloaded java from the Sun site). I gather that java is not preinstalled on the 2Gb models.
(The emphasis in Xandros is on the second syllable, and, in any case, it became a lot less useful as soon as Asus removed the interface to 'expert' mode, which means you have to hack the system anyway. The first thing I did was add 2Gb of RAM. EeeXubuntu froze on me. Kubuntu installed fine, and, unlike Xandros, you can then install all your favourite Linux utilities using Synaptic or similar. Do we need a heaven thread on Eees?)
[ETA - Alex, you can never have too much RAM with Linux - I upgraded my Thinkpad to 1.25Gb, and today I wouldn't buy a new one with less than 2Gb]
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Potoroo
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No, it booted me in the middle of typing a question... ![[Frown]](frown.gif) Really sorry!
But if I'm still in there it might explain why I can't get back in?! ![[Confused]](confused.gif)
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Ultracrepidarian
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You've just gone, so you should be able to get back. (I think)
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Potoroo
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Grrrr! It did it to me again!
Guess I'll have to wait till it shows me as not being there again... Then I'll try again.
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Potoroo
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Thanks, you guys... ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
(I was going to use the blush emoticon, but then I noticed it was labelled "hot and hormonal" - so I didn't! Lol)
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Potoroo
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Sorry guys, it happened a third time...gonna give it up for tonight! It's getting ridiculous.
Thanks for the chat, though! Good night
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Curiosity killed ...
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It broke yesterday too, when I was trying to post and I wondered if it was some key combination, but tonight I was reading when it died.
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Eleanor Jane
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Anyone bored* and feel like a chat?
EJ
*Amusement not guaranteed, amusement is at the discretion of the provider...
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PeterJMcC
Apprentice
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Originally posted by Eleanor Jane:
Anyone bored* and feel like a chat?
EJ
*Amusement not guaranteed, amusement is at the discretion of the provider...
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PeterJMcC
Far-Outside-London UK
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Tubbs
Miss Congeniality
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Originally posted by Eleanor Jane:
Anyone bored* and feel like a chat?
EJ
*Amusement not guaranteed, amusement is at the discretion of the provider...
Please use the Born to Chat thread in All Saints to tell others that you're in the cafe and wanting to chat. This thread is to report technical problems / make suggestions for improvement etc. Thank you.
Tubbs
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Foaming Draught
The Low in Low Church
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I have no problem with the caff, under saintly Linux or evil MS. I'm glad that the text boxes are a more, er, ergonomic size than the initial two byte cells. But I miss two things:
1. Sound, so that I can wander off to make a cup of tea or a crême de menthe frappé and know that there's movement at the station, and
2. the ability to log in without a Ship ID so that I can sus out whether there's a NW US (or Home Counties or wherever) clique hogging the place.
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For she is young and free
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Uncle Pete
Loyaute me lie
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Originally posted by PeterJMcC:
quote:
Originally posted by Eleanor Jane:
Anyone bored* and feel like a chat?
EJ
*Amusement not guaranteed, amusement is at the discretion of the provider...
PeterJMcC: It would be a good place for you to be too: On the Born to Chat thread in AS. But on your way over there, stop in at the Welcome thread to introduce yourself!
Introduction thread is here.
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Alan Cresswell
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Originally posted by Foaming Draught:
I miss two things:
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2. the ability to log in without a Ship ID
The guest login feature on the old Cafe was our biggest source of abuse of the facility. There was no practical way for us to exclude individuals from the Cafe, and we had several instances of people banned from the boards still using the Cafe (and often repeating the same unacceptable behaviour there). Not including a guest login feature removes that potential problem entirely.
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Melon
Ship's desserter
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Originally posted by Foaming Draught:
the ability to log in without a Ship ID so that I can sus out whether there's a NW US (or Home Counties or wherever) clique hogging the place.
At some point we are going to implement a system that allows users to see who is logged in without logging in themselves. Popping in and out as guests just to do that was always more than a little irritating for those present.
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French Whine
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Golden Key
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Re guest log-in:
I understand the reasons against it that were mentioned above.
But disallowing it also means that if someone falls overboard (gets disconnected) and their ID doesn't automatically log out, the user won't be able to get back into the cafe until the ID clears. Sometimes that takes hours; and IME it happens often, no matter what cafe software is used.
Without guest log-in, there are apt to be very frustrated users, FWIW.
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jlg
What is this place?
Why am I here?
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Take it as a sign that you should be dealing with something in real life.
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Melon
Ship's desserter
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If the 'frozen' problem persists (and Gwaelod thinks we ought to be able to fix it, although I maintain it's a direct consequence of the architecture of the Internet), we should be able to come up with another way to boot ghosts, eg via the website.
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Anselm
Shipmate
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Perhaps we need to install an exorcism smilie to get rid of the ghosts?
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...seize the day to play dominoes?
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Eutychus
From the edge
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Well I don't know if it was discussing demons, double spacing, or Colour Factor that did it, but I was just unceremoniously booted and couldn't get back in.
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IO Error (java.net.ConnectException: Connection refused: connect)
java.net.PlainSocketImpl : socketConnect at line -2
java.net.PlainSocketImpl : doConnect at line -1
java.net.PlainSocketImpl : connectToAddress at line -1
java.net.PlainSocketImpl : connect at line -1
java.net.SocksSocketImpl : connect at line -1
java.net.Socket : connect at line -1
java.net.Socket : connect at line -1
java.net.Socket : <init> at line -1
java.net.Socket : <init> at line -1
uk.co.darkgreenmedia.faverolle.SocketComms : run at line 98
java.lang.Thread : run at line -1
I've taken it as a Sign&trade that I should go to bed.
[ETA PM from another user suggests that we all fell out at the same time: about five of us in there]
[ 02. May 2008, 20:41: Message edited by: Eutychus ]
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rufiki
Ship's 'shroom
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We all were Eutychus, but we're back in now.
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Foaming Draught
The Low in Low Church
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Ah, now there's a nice big conversation screen (but no interlocutor with whom I may try it out) but my foaming draught has disappeared to be replaced with what I guess is a generic avatar resembling an online chess pawn.
FD
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Doublethink.
Ship's Foolwise Unperson
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I'm in the ship cafe - anyone else around ?
DT
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Doublethink.
Ship's Foolwise Unperson
# 1984
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Oops, missed cusanus - it would really help if you could set a sound for when people enter the room.
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MiceElf
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Im sorry if this has been covered already, but I have a problem I didnt have before.
When the cafe was testing I could get in, now it gives me this (edited password and user name)
ocket thread started
Buffer position = 0
Received XML = '<contexts>
<user_context xmlns:xcr="http://xcruciate.co.uk" id="a1742" name="reception"/>
</contexts>'
Context changed event fired
<commands/>
Round trip = 0 milliseconds
Buffer position = 0
Received XML = '<abilities>
<user_ability xmlns:xcr="http://xcruciate.co.uk" id="a1743" name="visitor"/>
</abilities>'
No consumer for nodes with name of 'abilities'
Buffer position = 0
Received XML = '<xcr:available_commands>
<xcr:command name="commands"/>
<xcr:command name="describe_commands"/>
<xcr:command name="describe_command"/>
<xcr:command name="registered"/>
<xcr:command name="unregistered"/>
</xcr:available_commands>'
New commands incoming
Command list complete for current context
New commands event fired
<registered pass="xxxxxx" user="xxxxxx"/>
Round trip = 301 milliseconds
Buffer position = 0
Received XML = '<xcr:message category="term" message_id="registered_login_failed">Login attempt failed</xcr:message>'
Disconnected
Why what has gone wrong?
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Alex Cockell
Ship’s penguin
# 7487
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I have my new laptop now - but no sign of being able to get into the cafe. I am running preinstalled Ubuntu 8.04LTS. What do I do now?
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Miffy
Ship's elephant
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Well, I'm in. And as an old fashioned steam driven goringe fan, I hate to admit it -but it's not bad. ![[Biased]](wink.gif)
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Eutychus
From the edge
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My laptop is still complaining that it can't validate the certificate. This has led me off on a merry trail of root certificate investigation. I have now found a list of these in IEX but none of them looks like it's the café one. Can anyone enlighten me as to what certificate it uses?
(Melon and Gwaelod, I have the identical problem with WebAsaph, if that sheds any light).
[ 19. May 2008, 18:48: Message edited by: Eutychus ]
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Doublethink.
Ship's Foolwise Unperson
# 1984
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Any chance of sound in the cafe - we could use these they're free.
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Curiosity killed ...
Ship's Mug
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There is a way of attracting the attention of someone in the café: if you start a private conversation with the person who has not noticed you have arrived, that private conversation window takes priority and pops up in front of anything else they are working on or reading.
Personally, I only use that technique with people I know reasonably well. The other usual suspect and I are perfectly capable of just sending the message: "Boo!", but we've spent a lot of time chatting in there and have met in real life.
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amber.
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I think it's chucked us all out. Says connection refused and gives me a load of code. Drat.
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amber.
Ship's Aspiedestra
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It's working again
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rufiki
Ship's 'shroom
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Twice in one evening
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Unexpected disconnection (java.io.EOFException)
java.io.DataInputStream : readByte at line 250
uk.co.darkgreenmedia.faverolle.SocketComms : run at line 120
java.lang.Thread : run at line 619
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