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Jack the Lass
Ship's airhead
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I haven't seen a newly opened shiny 2011 Job Search thread so I shall continue on this one
Good luck to all those jobhunting this year, I hope and pray you get what you want, and that many of us are surprised (in a good way) by where we end up.
I was just at the point where I thought I was happy enough where I was (my heart's not particularly in it but my team is great and so I thought I would put up with it for a bit longer). However, due to a combination of reasons I can't go into here without using far too many brackets and sub-clauses ( ) I'm starting the hunt again. I am just about to start a course (not exactly retraining, but it will mean I can move sideways which is fine) and am thinking about applying for some more Open Uni tutoring (I tutor on 2 courses already). If I can get some more tutoring I can afford to give up my current job. This feels like a bit of a leap of faith, the current job offers security and a regular income each month (whereas the tutoring is for 6 or 9 months and one of my courses is in its penultimate presentation). But leaving would considerably decrease my stress levels, which would be no bad thing.
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Sandemaniac
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Well, I'm still here. We hear whether the lab gets a grant or not in March, at which point I will have to be given three months notice if it doesnt, or if there's no funding for my post. So I should be in a job until June whatever... but that's not a great deal of comfort!
I've spent a great deal of time wrestling with self-analysis, and working out what my motivations and so on are, but I'm still faced with the problem of working out what the hell I can do that will satisfy me, earn enough to keep us going, and not bore the living bejabers out of me.
I just wish there was some way of matching the other qualities up with jobs rather than just my degree and my lab skills.
AG
-------------------- "It becomes soon pleasantly apparent that change-ringing is by no means merely an excuse for beer" Charles Dickens gets it wrong, 1869
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Og: Thread Killer
Ship's token CN Mennonite
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Today...I was motivated.
Saw a posting, made a couple of phone calls about it (most people have the day off today though), got a resume together to send off when/if I get a call back.
Long way to go yet though, but after a month of working for somebody and then 10 days off, I almost feel human again.
Word came down before Christmas of massive cuts within the city to another one of my fields. Looks like one job I was being interviewed for would be getting chopped, so maybe that was a good miss, as it were.
-------------------- I wish I was seeking justice loving mercy and walking humbly but... "Cease to lament for that thou canst not help, And study help for that which thou lament'st."
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Og: Thread Killer
Ship's token CN Mennonite
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So I go to send a resume/cover letter to a contact for a job that may or may not be there and I click on the attach document thingie and...nothing happens.
Click again
Nothing happens.
I shut down everything I'm doing, after I save the email as a draft, thankfully.
Turns out the attach what file window is buried behind all of my windows....for some reason it didn't pop in front.
I got the email off but I hate that panic feeling. Its like all my competency/confidence left me once I stopped getting paid for something. That, and having reached the age of 46, I'm now one of the people who is being judged to be too old so I'm wondering about that and.......
I'm supposed to be a pro at all this and I feel like such a newbie.
-------------------- I wish I was seeking justice loving mercy and walking humbly but... "Cease to lament for that thou canst not help, And study help for that which thou lament'st."
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les@BALM
The Ship's Visionary
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I'm still wating to hear about a post I was interviewed for 2 weeks prior to Christmas, they still must be packing up the decorations as I'm still to hear.
Og, keep the faith in yourself, the right job will arrive at the right time.
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Tubifex Maximus
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quote: Originally posted by Og: Thread Killer: Today...I was motivated.
Saw a posting, made a couple of phone calls about it (most people have the day off today though), got a resume together to send off when/if I get a call back.
Long way to go yet though, but after a month of working for somebody and then 10 days off, I almost feel human again.
Word came down before Christmas of massive cuts within the city to another one of my fields. Looks like one job I was being interviewed for would be getting chopped, so maybe that was a good miss, as it were.
Getting a month's work is a wonderful feeling isn't it? I remember when I'd been out of work for about 6 months I got a months contract with an organisation I'd worked for 2 years previously. It felt wonderful, looking back it was the beginning of the fight back.
I noticed you are about the same age as me and I wondered if you'd thought of self employment? I was made redundant from a senior post in a charity in September 2008. I looked for work for about 18 months with no success. Plenty of interviews but just "oh, we found someone...better". I started to pick up work as a musician and I am now doing freelance work and beginning to make a living. I'm now thinking that working for someone made me more vulnerable than working for myself. If one person tells me to take a hike, well, that's very sad but there are others. When I was employed one person told me to take a hike and took my whole livelihood away. the security of employment is actually vulnerability.
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la vie en rouge
Parisienne
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I don't know if this belongs here or in the praise thread - but anyway, it's taken a year but my woes look like they are finally over (and it's so easy to moan about all the bad stuff that I thought I should remember to be grateful for the good stuff)
I didn't stay with the insane people who'd gone through 8 assistants in 7 years…
I'm now on my third week in a top-tier firm with good conditions (*respect* to the health cover that pays everything at 400% of standard charges - not that I plan to need a hospital any time soon), a respectable salary, shiny brand-new office (they moved in 3 months ago) and normal people (or as normal as lawyers ever get, anyways )
Lots and lots of work but nice people and I'm getting appropriately paid for it so that's alright then.
In just two weeks since I arrived, my skin has completely cleared. I hadn't figured that the state of my face was down to stress, but there you go, apparently it was. And I was way more stressed out than I realised.
It was about time…It's been so long since I worked in a good healthy environment for reasonable money that I'd started to forget what it was like. I have money to spend, my face isn't like a pizza, I can sleep at night… bliss
(I had lunch today with one of my old colleagues from Magic Circle Law Firm that shall remain nameless and apparently nothing's changed. They got ripped off just as bad this year as last. She's now seriously considering following me out.)
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Sandemaniac
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The best news we've had on here for some time - great to hear it!
AG
-------------------- "It becomes soon pleasantly apparent that change-ringing is by no means merely an excuse for beer" Charles Dickens gets it wrong, 1869
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Og: Thread Killer
Ship's token CN Mennonite
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On another note, I hate being sick. Was going to do some serious looking today and have no energy.
-------------------- I wish I was seeking justice loving mercy and walking humbly but... "Cease to lament for that thou canst not help, And study help for that which thou lament'st."
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Piglet
Islander
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LVER - Long may it continue!
OTK - hope you feel better soon.
I heard from Potential Employer at the university a couple of weeks ago to say she hopes everything will be in place for me to start in a few weeks, and in the meantime I'm still getting a couple of shifts a week at the clothes shop (and had a couple of extra, unscheduled shifts in the last few days).
-------------------- I may not be on an island any more, but I'm still an islander. alto n a soprano who can read music
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Eleanor Jane
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Ooh dear... My husband and are are moving to England and looking for work in April and I'm getting towards being terrified! I'm reading *very* depressing things about the state of the UK economy.
I'd be looking for either Secondary English teaching (literature, TESOL) or fund raising/marketing/communications/management in a charity.
I know the teaching year doesn't start 'till August but I hoped I could get some long term relieving for the Summer term... any clues on what my chances might be?
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Gill H
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No idea about the teaching, but check out the Times Educational Supplement (TES) website which has a job section.
TES
For charity jobs, sign up with Third Sector website.
Third Sector
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Chorister
Completely Frocked
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Our local county council has a jobs bulletin which comes out monthly, also available online. There are lots of teaching jobs, mostly for one or two terms. If you have an idea in which county you are likely to be living, then a google for their website will probably yield a link.
-------------------- Retired, sitting back and watching others for a change.
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Eleanor Jane
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Thanks so much guys. Those are great ideas (and ones I hadn't found in fairly extensive searching).
My husband would love to know if the Ship has any tips of the best websites/ recruitment agencies for him. He's an intermediate developer in C# and .NET. Any thoughts?
Many thanks, EJ
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The Kat in the Hat
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I hate to be a wet blanket, but I do supply. If you are looking for day-to-day it will vary depending on where in the country you are, but this year has been really bad for just about everywhere (if you read the TES forum. This seems to be because schools can now cover an absent teacher with a cover supervisor (paid at about half the rate for a qualified teacher), or a HLTA (higher level teaching assistant) again, much cheaper. They also do not seem to be sending teachers on as many training courses (due to budget restrictions). If you are looking for longer placements, according to the GTC, 52% of teachers qualifying in 2009 have yet to start their induction year. You do the maths. (Last year, I was easily averaging 3 days a week, usually more, I turned work down. This year I have averaged 1. Talking to other supplies, they all generally say the same).
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Eleanor Jane
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quote: Originally posted by The Kat in the Hat: I hate to be a wet blanket, but I do supply. If you are looking for day-to-day it will vary depending on where in the country you are, but this year has been really bad for just about everywhere (if you read the TES forum. This seems to be because schools can now cover an absent teacher with a cover supervisor (paid at about half the rate for a qualified teacher), or a HLTA (higher level teaching assistant) again, much cheaper. They also do not seem to be sending teachers on as many training courses (due to budget restrictions). If you are looking for longer placements, according to the GTC, 52% of teachers qualifying in 2009 have yet to start their induction year. You do the maths. (Last year, I was easily averaging 3 days a week, usually more, I turned work down. This year I have averaged 1. Talking to other supplies, they all generally say the same).
Hi Kat,
Thanks for your wetness - we need a realistic view of how things are. Does it help that I wouldn't be paid as a Qualified teacher as I'm coming from NZ? I am registered and had 3 years experience here but it was 5 years ago. Since then I've been working in education related charities.
Also, we're fairly open about where we live - where would you suggest as somewhere that has some combination of: * Nice schools with available work * Countryside * Reasonably close to London (i.e. a hour or two) * Likelihood of IT work for my husband.
I know that's a big list - we're just looking to get our feet in the door, get some UK experience then move on to better jobs if necessary.
Cheers, EJ
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Curiosity killed ...
Ship's Mug
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Eleanor Jane, I've seen antipodean unqualified teachers in UK secondary schools, but they've been paid below the going rate,
Your wish list is not listing cheap options for living expenses. Lots of people who work in London on London wages live within an hour or more for commuting away, so in the area you're talking about.
-------------------- Mugs - Keep the Ship afloat
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Emma Louise
Storm in a teapot
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We used to live an hour out from london (end of the tube line) so a suitable place for your husband as a lot of IT work is in london. However it really really isn't cheap. We spent over half our income in rent in a dodgy flat but it was in a very good area with good schools and as the edge of london easy to get to countryside. You would probably both expect to commute quite a distance.
It might be worth thinking about a town a bit further out from london - not sure which ones are good for IT - but Southampton, basingstoke, are south of london.
Countryside is always avaliable in the UK with a short drive so wont be so much of a problem while you settle. I think getting jobs might be the hard bit in the current climate.
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Adrienne
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The M4 corridor - Slough/Windsor/Maidenhead, Reading/Bracknell/Wokingham, Newbury - would be worth a look. Particularly good for IT business. Good access to London, countryside also. Quite a flourishing third sector, especially Slough and Reading. Schools, yes, there are schools (not my line!).
A
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ecumaniac
Ship's whipping girl
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"an hour or two" of London is still commutable distance for a lot of London workers, so will be really expensive. Are you intending to work in London? If not, consider living further away.
I got my job here through a recruitment agency in Australia. I'm technically "unqualified" in the UK, but don't get paid less. I think the recruiters helped in that aspect.
UK teaching salaries here.
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The Kat in the Hat
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I'm in Sheffield, so can't comment about London, although reading the TES threads it does seem to say that there is more work in London. If you are prepared to travel (I'm fussy, any more than 1/2 hour, I don't want to know, unless I'm desperate!!) you may be ok. As ecumaniac said, there are agencies that recruit from the UK in Australia, again there are threads about that on the TES site. I do love the variety & flexibility of supply - at the moment I don't want to be tied to a specific class/school. It's just the day-to-day uncertainty that I have trouble with. I picked up 2 days last week where the Deputy said that if the TAs had been around (they were on the school residential), they wouldn't have called in for a Supply Teacher!
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rufiki
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quote: Originally posted by Eleanor Jane: My husband would love to know if the Ship has any tips of the best websites/ recruitment agencies for him. He's an intermediate developer in C# and .NET. Any thoughts?
NewScientistJobs has some developer jobs if you search in "maths and IT". There are probably better, more specialised, sites though.
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Og: Thread Killer
Ship's token CN Mennonite
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OH MY Gosh......as people are want to say.
I met, unexpectedly with a counsellor today. Out of the blue....wasn't going to happen. She had time. I walked in the door. She heard my story about how I enjoy doing stuff and can do projects and can get people engaged.
BLOW OUT TIME for the Holy Spirit
a) she pointed out I'm a leader who makes connections and gets things done and engages people and.....really, I should be talking to other leaders about how to do that within the context of what happens in this city
b) We created a project...on the spot. She got enthused about an idea, I heard her out, she wanted to do something...I'm doing it with her. Saw a need, doing it. Not getting paid, but so what else is new? Going to help people, or at least going to try. Its the sort of thing I used to do...well...its the sort of thing I can do, did and will do.
I feel ALIVE again.
Got my MOJO back....today. Gonna be a bit of work, gonna probably not be perfect, not sure what is going to happen because of it...but Gosh its nice to feel useful again.
Today is a good day.
Tomorrow, who knows.
But today is a good day.
-------------------- I wish I was seeking justice loving mercy and walking humbly but... "Cease to lament for that thou canst not help, And study help for that which thou lament'st."
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Jack the Lass
Ship's airhead
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I got notification today that I've not been shortlisted for a job. It's all very frustrating, I think I'm in a limbo-like place where I'm over-qualified for some jobs (like the one which just rejected me) but not-quite-qualified-enough for others (qualified enough to be shortlisted but not enough to be appointed).
I should be grateful that I do at least have a job currently with great colleagues and a bearable income and security and that I'm not applying from a position of desperation. But I'm really not happy there and would love to be able to leave. Sigh. Back to the drawing board.
-------------------- "My body is a temple - it's big and doesn't move." (Jo Brand) wiblog blipfoto blog
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Sandemaniac
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Good to hear some positive news from Og, even if Jack The Lass is still struggling.
I have at least got an extension on my contract until the end of may and I THINK the way it will work is that if there is no funding I will have to be given three months notice, which will spin it out a bit further. I should have asked when I got the letter about the extension, but I was having a really major headfuck of a week...
At last I have persuaded evil bastard experiment to work, but evil bastard boss is being just that. I know what I like to call him publicly and to his face, but it's offensive to pudenda so I'd better not for fear of upsetting them.
So I'm on borrowed time, boss being an arse, stress is a problem... and I need to work out what else I can do too. Apart from that, it's all rosy!
If any of the Ship's scientists should happen to read this, I'd appreciate any advice going!
AG
-------------------- "It becomes soon pleasantly apparent that change-ringing is by no means merely an excuse for beer" Charles Dickens gets it wrong, 1869
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wesleyswig
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IN potential sort of limbo - part economic and part job situation so applying for jobs when the come up and look interesting.
Really good job come up and currently writing application but its hard hard hard work.
All the best to all seeking work
-------------------- "I am still a Methodist, You can never get it's special glow out of your blood" Ellen Wilkinson Read my ramblings
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Piglet
Islander
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I spoke to Potential Employer at the University/Health Sciences department today and she wants me to start the week after next.
As I was laid off from the clothes-shop at the end of January (it was only a Christmas seasonal post), this couldn't have happened too soon.
Once again, best of luck to everyone still looking.
-------------------- I may not be on an island any more, but I'm still an islander. alto n a soprano who can read music
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wesleyswig
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Application successful. interview to come. If I don't get it may throw open other questions etc I'm not really wanting to face/deal with because theyw oudl be unfair.
ho hum what fun.
As ever, every strength to each and every one of you a) Searching for work b) Selecting people to work for you.
There are many reasons people end up with the job and its our calling to give support to those from this community as they seek work, but at the same time to remember those on the other side of the table.
All the best
john
-------------------- "I am still a Methodist, You can never get it's special glow out of your blood" Ellen Wilkinson Read my ramblings
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Ariel
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Can anyone suggest a good, free online careers site where you can do a questionnaire that gives you realistic suggestions without asking you to shell out for a report?
(Not interested in Myers-Briggs based ones, thanks.)
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Jen.
Godless Liberal
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Try the Prospects Planner. It's free - aimed at new graduates in the UK, but worth a go even if you don't quite fit those criteria.
Jen
-------------------- Was Jenny Ann, but fancied being more minimal.
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Sandemaniac
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If you do try Prospects Planer, Ariel, do please share your experiences with us. I didn't find it helpful, but I'm not sure that it wasn't because I was too blind to see...
AG
-------------------- "It becomes soon pleasantly apparent that change-ringing is by no means merely an excuse for beer" Charles Dickens gets it wrong, 1869
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Jen.
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It is the kind of tool that can be 'led' without too much sophisticated thought!
I've only really ever used it to start a discussion off - often the kind of discussion I used to have with students started:
Student: that thing was rubbish. gave me stupid suggestions that I don't want to do Me: Ok, that's fair enough, at least you've had a go - maybe we could discuss why it thought of those suggestions, or if not that, at least you've crossed some possibilities off the 'list'!
It's a difficult game - the guidance tools out there are either the MBTI type ones (which I don't particularly like, even though I'm and MBTI fan) or the 'query a database' type ones - like the prospects planner (although there are many many more of these).
The problem for my students (clearly, not 'mine' but the ones I work with) is often the massive variety of things they could do - how do you chose what path to go down when the possibilities are immense? I don't think there is an answer to that other than working out your priorities and finding a job that fits enough of them - I think this is trial and error.
It's taken me a good number of years to work out that for me its actually more important who I work with than what I do. My job is at risk at the moment (possibly, probably, public sector who knows?!) and I'm more pissed off at losing a good team and boss than possibly having to start again in a job I don't know.
In a way, I'm quite grateful that I'm not (and probably never have been) particularly ambitious for a particular career - I want to do well (and make as much money as I can whilst maintaining an acceptable work-life balance), but I'm not bothered what job I'm doing. At least when I next job search I'll not have my heart set on a specific career - I know I can be happy doing a variety of different things. But, on the other hand, how will I narrow those 'things' down?
I'm not sure if this has been a helpful post at all, or maybe it's been unhelpful! It was helpful for me to write it anyway.
Next - whoever heard of the CV checker without a CV herself...
Jen
-------------------- Was Jenny Ann, but fancied being more minimal.
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Ariel
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Thanks for the link, Jenny Ann, I'd forgotten I came across this a few years ago and had registered, so I updated my details.
It's one of the more useful sites I've come across in that it does try to be helpful and will also give you outlines of jobs you hadn't thought of. However, I think it needs to be somewhat more in-depth to be truly useful and I didn't come away enlightened.
I'm fairly clear about what I don't want from a job, but a lot less clear about how to tie it all up into a package that resembles a known shape and form that I can say "Ah! That's the area I want to work in!" to. I've had one mid-life career change; I'm now looking to make another. I'm not ambitious. My priorities are to have enough money to be comfortable and to be able to sleep at night. I also don't want to be trapped behind a computer screen all day every day. And I agree a nice working atmosphere goes a very long way: often to the point where you don't feel you need to look any further, even though everything isn't perfect. (No job ever is.)
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Sandemaniac
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Those might be the most sensible things I've ever read about Prospects Planner! Unfortunately our careers service here seem to regard it as a panacea for all career ills, which is a bit awkward when it then tells you what degree you need to get into something. Nice... I thought I'd finished with Bachelors degrees in 1993! Neither myself nor the people at careers have yet got past the stage of those student conversations (at 39, it amuses me that it keeps suggesting army officer).
My problem is that I seem to have too much experience in one direction to backtrack into some of the more interesting things, but the positions have run out in what I have been doing. Having been doing that for sixteen years, I haven't a clue what to do next - especially as, like Ariel, I am very good at finding "I do not"s, but bloody awful at finding "I do"s.
So... I need to try to take a different approach...
AG
-------------------- "It becomes soon pleasantly apparent that change-ringing is by no means merely an excuse for beer" Charles Dickens gets it wrong, 1869
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Ariel
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I'm currently trying to turn the "do not's" around; instead of "I don't want to be stuck at a desk all day", thinking "I want a job where I can get out more, even if it's only to meetings", but that still hasn't tied itself up yet.
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sophs
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Does anyone have any experience with *really* unhelpful family members?
I got engaged recently and phoned several relatives with the good news. Each one congratulated me and then moved the conversation to the fact I didn't have a job. I'm temping as a supply TA at the moment and really enjoying it.
My main problem is I keep falling ill, whether physical or mental health problems and committing to a full time job just isn't going to happen. I'm looking out for a part time local school position and we've worked out we can manage easily on that, but it's really demoralising dealing with a family who think I should be working all the hours God sends despite being ill.
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Gill H
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quote: Originally posted by sophs: Does anyone have any experience with *really* unhelpful family members?
I got engaged recently and phoned several relatives with the good news. Each one congratulated me and then moved the conversation to the fact I didn't have a job.
Aaaaagh! My uncle is like this. He's one of these 'pulled himself up by his bootstraps' types, and to him the most important thing in life is having enough money to know you will be able to live comfortably. I know it's because he cares about me and wants to make sure I'm OK; but sometimes it feels like I ought to produce the list of jobseeking activities I make for the jobcentre whenever I talk to him!
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quote: Originally posted by sophs: Does anyone have any experience with *really* unhelpful family members?
I got engaged recently and phoned several relatives with the good news. Each one congratulated me and then moved the conversation to the fact I didn't have a job. I'm temping as a supply TA at the moment and really enjoying it.
My main problem is I keep falling ill, whether physical or mental health problems and committing to a full time job just isn't going to happen. I'm looking out for a part time local school position and we've worked out we can manage easily on that, but it's really demoralising dealing with a family who think I should be working all the hours God sends despite being ill.
But you have a job - as a supply TA. I chose to be a supply teacher as it best fits in with family needs (father in law has frequent hospital appointments, husband needs a roadie when he does concerts). It was my job choice. The uncertainty of work is not fun, but that downside more than compensates for the positives (although only 1 day in December was definitely not fun!!) Sometimes I get asked about taking on a permanent post, but when I see the stress regular teachers seem to be under - no way!!
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Mmm. My mother is a bit like that - she's trying to help, but just ends up being trying. There's always something else I can do - she's convinced I'm going to make a living from writing articles about local history at the moment, and before that it was becoming a photographer. I wish I could suggest a coping mechanism - having been hunting for 18 months or so now, I've only just told her in the last few weeks as she was desperate for me to come and house sit at a time after the end of my contract, when I really don't know what I'll be doing.
Sorry I can't suggest anything more helpful, but you aren't alone!
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Ok re previous post. I got to interview. It is today and so suitable hippy vibes/best wishes/good luck/ prayers etc appreciated!
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wesleyswig, hope it went well. I'm afraid I only just saw your post (and haven't looked at facebook yet today), but I'm sure God is big enough to cope with backdated prayers (he should be well used to it from me by now).
We are also thinking jobly thoughts - I'll be applying for OU work tonight, and another job over the weekend. We'll see.
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Some of you may find this video therapeutic... [ 02. March 2011, 21:18: Message edited by: rufiki ]
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Ooh, quite excited! Got an email saying my visa is on its way so I really really will be coming to England in about six weeks! I will be looking for a new jobby in the charity sector, preferable faith based or to do with children/youth/education etc.
Found some good websites thanks to advice from here so it's just a matter of actually booking tickets and starting to apply!
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Belated good wishes to Wesleyswig for the interview - hope it went well.
I started my new job today, and although I didn't do very much (computer needs to be set up, etc., etc. ...) I think I'm going to enjoy it.
Once again, best of luck to those still looking.
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Well, after a period of famine, suddenly there are four jobs being advertised that I reckon are worth me applying for. That's this week's evenings sorted, then, and I haven't even looked at the New Scientist website this week.
Am I the only one who gets really hacked off by online ads for jobs? They seem to take so much longer to read than paper ones, and you lose the chance of serendipitous discovery. But then I'm a technophobe old git before my time.
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Go for it, Sandemaniac! I hope one of them is The One; as my granny used to say, "what's for you won't go by you".
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Interview a week Thursday. Lots of time to prepare.
A community worker position a lot like something I did for 4 years. And I've been doing some research on the topic before I saw this. I applied on the last day too. Kind of a whim thing.
So, I have experience, and time to prepare. Will see but that puts me in a good position. And yes I would enjoy the job.
In other good news, Employment Insurance approved and kicking in soon. [ 14. March 2011, 23:54: Message edited by: Og: Thread Killer ]
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Best of luck, Og.
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Well, had the interview went well but for a minor point. One person got annoyed for me talking so much. Second time I've done that. Hopefully she is not too put off of me. I usually listen a lot but in interviews, there is so much to talk about.
Something to work on....
There was one part of the job I admitted I had no experience of but I laid out a good case for exactly how I would go about making sure it got done.
Everything else went well.
I discovered that I was the first person asked to interview....a good sign usually. We will have to see.
I went into it looking to enjoy the experience and did so. I feel that if I don't move forward that my experience getting prepared was good for me.
Would be nice to get it though....
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Fingers crossed Og, hope it works out for you.
Here I am currently just about to hurl the laptop at the wall, except that it's not the laptop's fault - I am trying to upload a CV and cover letter for a job (closing date today) and it won't let me as it says the files I am uploading contain a virus (they don't). I do have the email address for the line manager so if all else fails I can email it to her (I am currently scanning just to make absolutely sure, as I doubt emailing a virus would exactly endear me to them; I've already had to email her to say I'm unavailable on the advertised interview date so they'll probably think I'm a right prima donna). It's all very frustrating.
Even more frustratingly, although it sounds like my perfect job (research, PhD level, pretty much in my field, part time, lots of opportunities to work with others and build up experience and publications, here in the city), TME has a phone interview for a brilliant job elsewhere next week which sounds like it is his perfect job, so if he gets that then I'd have to withdraw from this job anyway as we'd have to move. Maybe this virus thing is just a really obvious sign - but I can't not apply. Ho hum.
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