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duchess
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Maybe I am just paranoid. An ex-boss (from a place I used to work at) who didn't seem to have much tolerance for me and fired me knew I went on SoF (even had me blocked through a Web-filtering product from it). But I have decided that if he did tell somebody I am on here like I suspect may have happened, I don't care anymore. I have to be ME. And if that impacted me, oh well. I may just be paranoid or my huge gut feeling may be right on target, I dunno.
In any event, will post my grateful prayer HERE since this is the place (thread) it belongs to.
I have been going on job interviews, with rejection from a VP quitting right after interviewing me, an internal candidate getting hired on, interviews spanning over 1 month then checking references, to a man last night literally telling me off for not knowing what a MPLS was or what the 7 layers of a network was (for a Inside Sales job!) then cutting the interview short...wanting to desperately to leave my job as the pressures grew. Everything drying up. And nobody seems to have any respect for what I do here (at my current job) even though it is honestly more tougher and I am learning much more than my last job. I mean I am proud of myself for recommending 2 different companies models of firewalls for 30 users. I am also proud I figured out a configuration for a type of firewall and the PIMs that go with it 2 years ago, bringing an order to us last qtr that was worth a great deal of money. But nobody respects that in inter
Then yesterday during a sales meeting, my boss at my current job told me how my customers have been saying how they love me. Another mgr had everybody clap for me. Then this morning when I stumbled in late, my boss opened the door and ran out from his meeting...
to give me a 50$ Starbucks gift-card. I've got tears in my eyes and I am humbled. I realized as I told him that "What I liked was hearing those good things more than the giftcard, although I like that". He got what I said.
I think my brain was opened up a bit more...I have more appreciation of the hard world mgrs go through. They certainly aren't perfect. But I am starting to see that they are being hard on me as they are being hard on the collective. They are sorting out the wheat from the chaff right now.
And I am seeing more mistakes I have made in interviews and in my last job, plus current.
I may be at this place a lot longer. It is not the glamorous life, but it's a living. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
So God is teaching me more patience. And my boss is not going to mess with my paycheck and the other person who's job was changed until they figure so more things out. that's all I've got to say.
[eta: I think I may refrain for awhile since I have blogged in this post and wait awhile before posting again in this thread. Unless of course some big newsflash happens. ![[Biased]](wink.gif) -duch ]
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Duchess, stay where you are! They clearly love you and are grateful you are there -- their customers are telling them so!
I can't begin to tell you about the number of jobs I left during my career because of (probably false) notions of disillusionment, or not being appreciated or respected, etc.
But the last job I held before retiring lasted for 9 years (my longest ever) and started out with me thinking the boss didn't like me. I had even applied for a transfer to a different department which, thankfully, fell through, as I am sure I would have been miserable in that department.
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I spent the last 3 weeks doing little job search.
I was very very tired after 9 1/2 years of helping people.
A great vacation, which the severance helps with.
And I am going to get right back at it again on Monday.
Well...it was going to be Monday.
6 pm got a new monitor...playing around...drinking a beer.
Phone call.
Got an interview on Tuesday.
Good place, would be interesting work...pay should be OK.
I'm going to work hard to get ready but if I don't get it, I'm not going to be worried.
Getting a perspective on things over the last 3 weeks really helped.
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Sandemaniac
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Well, good luck for Tuesday and (I'm sure you won't- you know all this already!) don't forget PPPPP!
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The Exegesis Fairy
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So many application forms...I keep having anxiety dreams about interviews and exams and...my teeth falling out, for some weird reason.
Is it me or do all forms ask exactly the same questions? Wouldn't it be easier if I just gave you my CV, which contains all of this information and is 1 page long with nice big margins? No?
Fine. Ctrl - c. Ctrl - v. Repeat ad nauseam.
Husband and I have now had an interview apiece where we got passed over for the guy with more experience.
Getting the interviews in the first place was difficult enough!
Still, I have applied for about 6 different things, most of which are way below my competence level (anything around my level requires 3 years of experience which I don't have, having graduated two years ago and not worked in related fields), hopefully something will turn up.
God have mercy.
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The Exegesis Fairy
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My computer informs me that I have now applied for about 25 different posts.
(I did have a concerning moment when I got 8 of 11 pages through a form and it said, 'Tell us how your skills relate to this post' and I thought: What am I applying for, again?)
![[Votive]](graemlins/votive.gif) for all. Job-hunting sucks.
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YAHOOOOO!!!! ![[Yipee]](graemlins/spin.gif) I got an email inviting me to call to arrange an interview for the letter carrier job I applied for back in July. This would be an AWESOME career change. I put myself through university delivering mail back in the day (early 80s) and loved it. The commute is the same as my last job, only in the opposite direction, meaning I'd be going against traffic both ways. And since it's a letter carrier job it would probably start very early in the morning (I'm guessing 6:00 or 7:00), so the traffic would be pretty slight anyways.
I would love love love this job. Mustn't get my hopes up too high. Mustn't get my hopes up too high. Mustn't get my hopes up too high.
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Excellent news! arising!
for all in challenging job situations.
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Jack the Lass
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Brilliant, mousethief, hope something comes of that. A friend of mine was made redundant a few years ago from a top web managing job, and retrained as a train driver, and now he's like a pig in sh*t, absolutely loving it.
I applied for a lecturing job a while ago (closing date was over a month ago). I've still not heard anything but emailed HR last week who said the applications were all still with the department for shortlisting (I gather academia is not always the world's most efficient when it comes to this sort of thing). I'm hoping they can hold fire another few weeks till I've got the thesis submitted before telling me they want me to come for an interview
In the meantime I have a job I'm not that happy in (but brilliant colleagues which make it bearable, they really are a great crowd), and I'm grateful for that - at least I have money coming in. And TME has work until the end of the year, though prayers ongoing for something permanent for him would be appreciated.
for all going through the job-hunting merrygoround.
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Originally posted by Jack the Lass:
I applied for a lecturing job a while ago (closing date was over a month ago). I've still not heard anything but emailed HR last week who said the applications were all still with the department for shortlisting (I gather academia is not always the world's most efficient when it comes to this sort of thing). I'm hoping they can hold fire another few weeks till I've got the thesis submitted before telling me they want me to come for an interview
Hey I am still waiting for the confirmation letter for the first job I held with my current employer which started eighteen years ago.
In fairness its the norm that universities are basically run by cats who herd cats. Or more accurately, much of the admin staff* are made up of failed academics who are trying to keep academics in order.
Jengie
*I am admin staff (or technically professional services) although the only person I am responsible for keeping in order is me.
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Okay. I really am a full member of this thread now and should be properly, properly job hunting (gave in the last bit of work for my masters degree - late - a couple of weeks ago). Ag. Bit edgy about this looking-for-work business, but am also still in PJs at 2:30pm - hmmm - seems the putting major life issues to the back of my mind and procrastinating technique is not just something I apply to academic work.
Right, plan for the afternoon -
Washing up
Tidy up
Shower
Job application
Email friend to ask about meeting up to discuss job-finding issues (she's one of the sensible ones who found her post before the course finished)
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les@BALM
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Looking for teaching work in Moncton, NB or similar, if anyone has ideas where work can be found please let me know, nothing has hit my door yet.
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I've spent the day signing up for job alerts and filling in applications.
It's all very well going from month to month on promises something will work out soon, but it don't pay the bills.
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duchess
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Waiting and waiting. The recruiter added me on in linkedin but did not reply back since 2-Sept-10. I've lvm for him and e-mail. I first submitted my CV on 26-Aug-10.
Got another response to something I submitted weeks ago to another company, but this one is halfway between here and SF, so taking my time thinking about that one.
Still gainfully employed, thank the LORD. But things I don't post anyway, just take my word for it, they are making some bad decisions. And I have let them KNOW. "[duchess] always pushes back" <--my boss actually has acknowledged this. When, God willing, I leave, I have the comfort knowing I have spoken my peace to the Mgmt Staff.
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Well that was an interesting last month.
Far too little job search, and the one interview I had, just got a thank you but no thank you letter in the mail today.
Oh well...
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Not really job hunting, but would appreciate it if some supply work came in soon. I know the start of term is always quiet, but could do with at least 1/2 a day before the end of Sept, otherwise I'll need a new CRB (again ![[brick wall]](graemlins/brick_wall.gif) )
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Sandemaniac
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Well, no concrete developments here. However, I'm currently effectively mentoring someone from outside the field, and who speaks very little English (being a native speaker of English, of course, I speak about four words of her language...). We're also doing something that I did once about five years ago, so the learning curve is pretty steep. It is actually very satisfying, though. While I don't think that there is a career anywhere in science for one-on-one mentoring, there could be other opportunities that this might lead to... Just need to work out what! But it's good to feel that I'm actually doing something useful at last!
My boss told me before he left for a conference that he wanted to speak to me on Thursday about my contract. This could be very interesting as I suspect he will be spending a lot of time sorting out the mess he has dropped himself into by sending an incredibly ill-judged email to both one of his students and to another of the senior scientists - so he may be busy shovelling the manure for a while when he gets back.
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I'm joining this thread for the first time as our Permanent Residence came through last week (after seven years) and I'm now entitled to look for work in Canada.
I spent the afternoon filling in on-line job applications with Memorial University (the bulk of my experience was clerical work at the University of Ulster) and the civil service (which seems to offer v. good rates of pay).
Any pointers for what Canadian employers are looking for would be welcome. I'm afraid I don't speak French; when I had the option of French or German at age 12, I didn't know I'd end up living here ...
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duchess
Ship's Blue Blooded Lady
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Oh my gosh! French VP company, the one where I made a crack (no pun intended) about crack in the interview with the French VP and thought that, or something else I said, made me lose the chance at the job...just sent an e-mail! Read here if you like My blog post
PS: I wanted to write something snarky like kiss my sweet @%% right now but instead calmly just re-write the e-mail 3 times to make it civil. Off to bible-banger women's study now in So. SJ to read and discuss the WORD of the LORD. Ciao.
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Originally posted by piglet:
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Any pointers for what Canadian employers are looking for would be welcome. I'm afraid I don't speak French; when I had the option of French or German at age 12, I didn't know I'd end up living here ...
Pour des fonctionnaires publiques, il faut comprendre français, you must speak and understand French, but unless you are in a Regional Centre, you might get away with one language or the other. Where you are it is probably more important that you understands Newfie. Can you keyboard?
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PS to piglet: Whatever you do, do not underplay any skills you might have picked up in your volunteer jobs. Even managing cryptic tea rooms. And get the Dean or the Bishop to give you glowing references, stamped and sealed as appropriate,
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duchess
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Originally posted by PeteC:
PS to piglet: Whatever you do, do not underplay any skills you might have picked up in your volunteer jobs. Even managing cryptic tea rooms. And get the Dean or the Bishop to give you glowing references, stamped and sealed as appropriate,
True, this. I saw one guy get a job at an up and coming place (one I've applied for and wanted to work at since they are so cool and growing so fast)...I looked at his linkedin and he was unemployed for 18 months or so. He listed his volunteer work as a job and even had recommendations from someone at that organization. That probably got the job.
I was blown away as some companies around here will write you off if you are unemployed too long, which is really unfair.
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les@BALM
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I found living in a small city networking to being very important. I'm getting most of my leads from word and mouth, and good folk sending my resume onto others. In NB not having a grasp of French is a disadvantage but isn't a big a barrier as one might expect.
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duchess
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Just wanted to clarify my bad 'tude in my last post about the French VP company is the result of multiple interviews, stringing me along and then dropping me. I still would want to work there as they are the one of the few places I felt people were being real with me. sigh. I hate not having any of the power.
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Piglet
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Thanks very much, Pete, Duchess and Les - I'm already networking a bit (my best friend and her husband are both retired civil servants and e-mailed me the link to the web-site) and I've put the Dean's name down as a referee in the hope that he'll write me a reference that would get me into Heaven ... ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
And yes, b'y, I does speak Newfie.
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Originally posted by PeteC:
PS to piglet: Whatever you do, do not underplay any skills you might have picked up in your volunteer jobs. Even managing cryptic tea rooms. And get the Dean or the Bishop to give you glowing references, stamped and sealed as appropriate,
This is a really good point. I've worked for many years volunteering in various organisations and have also worked for years where I managed volunteers. Neither path is easy to do properly and requires different skill, organisational abilities and masses of tact and diplomacy.
Don't downgrade yourself because you weren't being paid for what you did. Think of some situations which arose and how you handled them.
List jobs and requirements for them you did, chains of command and where you fitted in, any qualifications needed, even things like first aid. Sell yourself.
Best wishes in the search. Even perhaps the fact that you are not native to the area may bring a different attitude to the job. Ferret out all that sort of thing. Not necessarily will it all go in an application, but it could be useful in an interview. One of my sons was a state HR manager for one of the top recruitment firms down here. He says applications are important in your discernment of what to include and what to omit. Get someone to check your resumé who is up to date with preferred trends in them.
And good referees who have been asked beforehand for their help. Best wishes in the search.
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Piglet, I found that knowing what is transferable in terms of skills and knowledge is important. If you are able to translate terms used in Canada from ones used in England does impress the locals i.e If you are able to say you have a knowledge of what are the Essential Skills in Adult Ed, even though they are called Key, Basic and Life Skills in England, does help. There will be simialr crossovers and examples in your own field, I've just used one from my own.
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duchess
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The French VP is setting up a call with a guy there I never met. !
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I just recently started job hunting. I left a job I loved in June for very unpleasant personal reasons, but was lucky enough to be recruited to work for my current employer very soon thereafter. I love what I do (wait tables), but my new shifts are all at night and weekends. My husband works from 5 am to 3 pm so I rarely get to see him awake during the week.
Anyway, that's my impetus for searching for something else. I would actually really love an office job (stable income and not on my feet 8 hours a day) and have been applying to anything I can find around me, which sadly is not much, but that's life. My problem is that since moving here 3 years ago, I have only worked in food service, and not in a professional/office setting. I worry that a potential employer will see that I haven't "worked" in 3 years, but if I put "Line Cook" or "Waitress" on my professional resume, I will be rejected out of hand.
I have a cover letter that I think addresses these points, but I am still nervous about my chances of even getting an interview. Does anyone have any advice?
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Good luck Bess
I have just applied for a job as specialist teacher for dyslexic children, looking after five schools.
It's a long shot as I have asked for it to be a job share (I want time to continue my studies)
Worth a try 'tho!
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I have a cover letter that I think addresses these points, but I am still nervous about my chances of even getting an interview. Does anyone have any advice?
If it was me, I'd put the work experience on the CV. It's better than looking as if you've been sitting at home unemployed for three years. Also, it gives you customer service experience, retail experience, dealing with the public (keeping your patience, being helpful and friendly, explaining things when necessary in a user-friendly way), dealing with unexpected situations and coping with a pressurized working environment. These are qualities that are in demand in many areas, and you need to highlight these somewhere either in your covering letter or on your CV as skills that you gained from this period in your life. The trick is in presentation of the facts.
A course in office skills/secretarial work might also help. It doesn't have to be a long course, but it would show an employer you were motivated and serious about making a change, and had gained some up-to-date office skills/knowledge of software.
I'd also suggest taking your CV to a local recruitment agency for a discussion with them. They can tell you how it comes across, what your prospects are, and what's going in the area.
Good luck!
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convo went well. I wrote a lame short "what if any next steps let me know note". I lay it in God's Hands now and let go.
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Best of luck, Bess, Boogie and Duchess. Bess, see what PeteC said to me a few posts back about selling yourself; anything you've done while you were not employed in your chosen profession is going to do you no harm at all, and shows that you're flexible (although I'm a clerk/secretary by profession, I've been known to tell potential employers at interviews that I make good tea ).
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I'm doing some Adult Ed class observations this week, its a step towards getting a post, so taking what opportunities come my way.
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okay, accepted. lameo blog posts for those who care to read my ramblings. thanketh.
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Jack the Lass
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Congratulations duchess - fantastic news!
I have an interview in just over a week's time for the job I mentioned upthread that were taking ages to shortlist. I have an outfit (my NHS smart casual interview wear was deemed too casual by friends who already work in academia, so I have sorted out something smarter) and have started my interview preparation. The presentation is still a bit of a challenge, as it is possible to interpret the question I'm to present on a number of different ways. But I think I'm getting there. Wish me luck! (all prayers gratefully received).
Good luck to everyone else, whether it's for interviews or applications.
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Jack the Lass
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I've just noticed a horrific grammar error in the last post ![[Hot and Hormonal]](icon_redface.gif)
Better to do it here than in my powerpoint presentation I guess
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duchess
Ship's Blue Blooded Lady
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quote:
Originally posted by Jack the Lass:
I've just noticed a horrific grammar error in the last post
Better to do it here than in my powerpoint presentation I guess
I wish you luck and don't notice your gramm-i-cal error type-os. prayers for you. +
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duchess
Ship's Blue Blooded Lady
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Yesterday, I received an e-mail from the ofc mgr/hr person in the office ordering new fresh business-cards for me and asking for my cell. I actually paused thinking "I don't want to give that to you!" But quickly got over it and sent it to her. It was mighty nice to see they take that seriously...the place I am leaving took a year and 1/2 to get me business cards! I would apologize meeting clients "sorry I have no business cards to give you". So this was special to me, the little things mean a lot. It also makes it more "real". I can't believe it is happening...I am leaving this place after looking since Jan. (9 months).
My soon-to-be-ex-boss said to me yesterday over the phone "Are you excited? I know I would be" which shocked me. I mean, what do you say to that? I just paused a bit then said "I am excited to be starting this new job, yes."
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Piglet
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Good luck, JtL, and congratulations Duchess. My job-hunting took an interesting turn today; I was telling an acquaintance whom I hadn't seen for a while about our Permanent Residence and that I could now look for a job. She asked me what I did and when I told her I was looking for secretarial work, she said that she was in the process of applying to the local university for funding for a secretary (she's a geneticist in the Health Sciences department) and if she gets it, would I consider part-time work? She asked for my CV, which I've e-mailed to her; she's English, so my Scottish qualifications may make more sense to her than they would to a local.
I'm trying very hard not to get too excited about this, but I'm not succeeding.
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Sober Preacher's Kid
Presbymethegationalist
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Originally posted by piglet:
I'm joining this thread for the first time as our Permanent Residence came through last week (after seven years) and I'm now entitled to look for work in Canada.
I spent the afternoon filling in on-line job applications with Memorial University (the bulk of my experience was clerical work at the University of Ulster) and the civil service (which seems to offer v. good rates of pay).
Any pointers for what Canadian employers are looking for would be welcome. I'm afraid I don't speak French; when I had the option of French or German at age 12, I didn't know I'd end up living here ...
Pete brought up a very common problem: which civil service are you speaking of?
Pete of course lives in Ottawa which is a company town. The Public Service of Canada is the company.
That's the federal government and they expressly give preference to Canadian Citizens. As a Permanent Resident you'll get moved down the list. Sorry.
I've been jobhunting for federal Public Service jobs in Ottawa for months now.
On the other hand, the Public Service of Newfoundland and Labrador is a completely different creature with its own laws, rules, regulations and practices.
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Piglet
Islander
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Thanks for the advice, SPK - it was with the Federal government, so I won't hold my breath ...
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Sober Preacher's Kid
Presbymethegationalist
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If it was Federal, look at the bottom of the ad on jobs.gc.ca. It will usually say to state your citizenship or permanent residency status.
Under the Public Service Employment Act, Canadian Citizens automatically get preference.
Since you're in Newfoundland with its usual employment issues, I would look at other pastures.
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Zoey
Broken idealist
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Okay, since there's always a national shortage of social workers, I'm going to ask an optimistic question.
The short version:
In the UK, once an employer offers you a position, how long do you generally have to decide whether to accept or decline the offer?
The long version:
I'm applying for social work jobs with Local Authorities (aka councils). I made a couple of applications earlier in the year (whilst still completing my social work degree) and had interviews. In both cases, the employers phoned me same day or next day (depending on how many candidates they had to interview after me) to tell me the outcome of the interview and give feedback (in one case - your interview was slightly rubbish (which I knew); in one case - very good interview, somebody else was even better, but would you like us to pass your details on to another team which might be hiring? (although in the end that other opening fell through)).
I've now got half a dozen applications on the boil - either already submitted, or to be submitted over the course of the next week. Fairly inevitably, I like the look of some of them better than others. My first interview is this Thursday - which is before the closing date for written applications for some of the others I'm looking at.
I know that ultimately it will be a judgement call on my part - how interested I am in different jobs, how likely I think I am to get them, etc etc.
But, if the first place to interview me phones on Friday afternoon and says, "Congratulations, we'd like to offer you a job. Do you want to take it?" and my internal thoughts are, "Argh. I need a job. This is a firm offer. And this job has good points. But it also has bad points. And one of the others I've applied for might be better. But what if I don't get an offer from anywhere else?" then:
1) what exactly do I say to prospective employer on the phone at that point?
2) how much thinking time can I ask for before needing to give a definite yes / no?
(An enhanced CRB is needed to work as a social worker (obviously), so there will actually be at least 2 weeks, and more likely 3-6 weeks-ish, between me accepting a job offer and actually starting work for the organisation. However, I'm assuming that accepting a job offer and having the employer start paying for CRB checks, occupational health appointments, etc, then turning round and saying, "Actually, the council two boroughs over has made me a better offer, so I don't want your job any more," is rude and will get you a black mark and is generally simply NOT ON.)
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Doublethink.
Ship's Foolwise Unperson
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I would have thought you could hold out for a few days but probably not too much longer - personally I would suggest being honest, "I am waiting to hear back from x, which will take another 2 days - can I contact you then ?" But I have no idea how well this will work.
Thus far in my working life I have always accepted the first job I was offered within 30 seconds, this seems to have worked well as a strategy but ymmv. I don't do well with uncertainty and would rather know I have a job (especially in the current climate) and then, if I have issues with it, look for another from the position of having a regular income. [Part of this strategy involves never applying for a job you are not prepared to do, regardless of the benfits of interview pratice.]
FWIW there is some evidence that spending a long time making big complex decisions doesn't lead to any better outcome than going with your gut intinct - summarised here. (I didn't have time to did out the research sources.)
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Whitelighter
Apprentice
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Tis a scary time for job hunting at the moment, and I feel that its not 'what you know its who you know' nepotism is rearing its ugly head a lot. I have put in for jobs that are perfectly suited for my qualifications, but no, not even an interview, I have recently learnt that 1 specific job I applied for went to a Council members' daughter....who did not have the qualifications. Angry - yes at first (then i reached for the red wine and Wagner opera DVDs to cheer me up! there were some Bette Davis with cigarette dramatic queeny moments, but heck I was on my own, only my dog to look at me with a disparaging look on his face!) But still applying everywhere, I may conduct an experiment and not put my degree or the fact that I am studying for my MA down, just to see if I will even get an interview! Ah well, thank God for Email, as I have no toner in my printer! Good luck to everyone in the same boat there is nothing as soul destroying as standing in the queue at the DHSS to sign on - apart from it looks like an audition for the TRIGA films (those in the know will know!) hmmm maybe I should try for that!
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The Kat in the Hat
Shipmate
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Just putting in an application for my dream job, but not getting my hopes up at all. Competition will be high (I think) and I don't always manage to sell myself enough.
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