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Pigwidgeon
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quote: Originally posted by Brenda Clough: This is a Post exclusive: Crooked Doin has ordered the Pentagon to prepare a parade. A big parade, the bigliest. Every time you think he's gotten as low as he can go, he beats your expectations.
For those with no access to the Washington Post, here's the CNN story about it.
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LutheranChik
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Jesus Christ. I am getting truly afraid. Anyone who is naive enough to think that the military, Ora Congress, or the Supreme Court, is going to keep Der Trumpenführer in check is a fool.
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Pangolin Guerre
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quote: Originally posted by Ohher: quote: Originally posted by Pangolin Guerre: Were I an American, I'd balk, but I would acknowledge some ugly truths.
As an American, I can think of better uses for the extravagant number of arpents de neige such a pointless display is going to cost. Is this a signal that Don-Don wonders if his days are numbered? Parade now, jail later?
I don't think that Trump thinks that his days are numbered. I'm not certain that they are numbered.
From the Ugly Truth Department: This is like moving the embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. The move puts on full display the fact that the US has long ceased to be an 'honest broker' in the mideast. Similarly a military parade would publicly acknowledge the role of the military in politics at home and abroad: economically and psychologically. No more fig leaves.
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simontoad
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worst case scenario: only 7 years to go.
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Yes! Let's have a military parade! The French did one on Bastille Day and we have to top that one. No problem that it will cost millions of dollars. No problem that Washington streets can't support 70-ton tanks. Sounds like someone has a problem with the size of his penis.
BTW, I think the Brits are also known for presenting great military parades. Let's see the OO top yours as well.
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quote: Originally posted by Pangolin Guerre: if it must be, I'd prefer 11 November
This would be the most offensive date to choose - the day when so many millions of people are stopping to remember the tragedy of war. The fucking Yanks didn't win WW1. In fact NO ONE won. It was a monstrous cock-up from start to finish, whose impacts we are still living through. The eleventh hour of the eleventh day of the eleventh month is a time for silence and mourning. Not a time for militaristic willy waving.
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quote: Originally posted by Gramps49: Yes! Let's have a military parade! The French did one on Bastille Day and we have to top that one. No problem that it will cost millions of dollars. No problem that Washington streets can't support 70-ton tanks.
Let’s hope all is miscalculated and the tanks fall into holes in the road causing complete chaos and gridlock. Let him be shown up for what he is, a Trumped up dictator in waiting.
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quote: Originally posted by Pangolin Guerre: Trump gets a woody from things military
Woody feet, apparently.
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quote: Originally posted by Gramps49: BTW, I think the Brits are also known for presenting great military parades. Let's see the OO top yours as well.
We have the annual ceremony of Trooping the Colour, which marks the sovereign's (official) birthday by inviting him/her to inspect the troops that traditionally guard the royal household.
It involves about 1200 blokes in retro uniforms marching around Horseguards Parade. We don't go in for the tanks 'n' missiles thing - very vulgar.
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quote: Originally posted by simontoad: worst case scenario: only 7 years to go.
Assuming he doesn't have the numbers to amend the constitution, or simply declare a state of emergency.
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Presumably the object is to demonstrate that he has Made America Great Again.
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quote: Originally posted by romanlion: quote: Originally posted by Barnabas62: quote: Originally posted by Crœsos: Given all the precedents available I'm not seeing any way for Trump to entirely avoid in person conversation/testimony.
Given his character and previous history as a witness, his advisers are, understandably, desperate to avoid that!
He lies and misrepresents routinely. There was a famous judge's quote about the disgraced UK politician John Stonehouse. 'For Mr Stonehouse, truth was a moving target'.
You can say that in spades for President Trump.
Little wonder that as a rookie he plays this game so effectively. Must be infuriating for those that have been practicing for decades...
It's pretty easy for him to be effective with his loyal 35% base support.
But for the others? He's too obviously a purveyor of snake oil. And he lies, blatantly, frequently, relentlessly. As we have daily proof.
Plus he has zero interest in defending the Constitution of the United States, as he promised when taking office, if principles like separation of powers get in the way of what he wants to do.
So I don't think you can describe his lying skills as on any kind of previous Presidential news management scale. He's in a class of one. And should serve as a dreadful warning against any repetition. [ 07. February 2018, 09:14: Message edited by: Barnabas62 ]
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Martin60
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quote: Originally posted by Eutychus: I read somewhere that there could be an agreement to answer questions in writing
Apart from that being a hallmark of a con I helped expose, is that a likelihood?
The fabled Reading Outpouring?
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06:11:12:20:03:08 [ 07. February 2018, 09:27: Message edited by: Martin60 ]
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Martin60
Mild rebuke coming up.
Some of us can work out your codes. But they are a form of disrespect to the many Shipmates asking what the hell are you up to now.
Translate, please
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quote: Originally posted by Martin60: 06:11:12:20:03:08
I think that's 6 years 11 months 12 days 20 hours 3 minutes and 8 seconds
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L'organist
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posted by Gramps49 quote: BTW, I think the Brits are also known for presenting great military parades. Let's see the OO top yours as well.
Actually no, we don't really have any military parades as such. The closest you'll find with all three branches of the military (sea, land and air) represented is in the procession at the end of a coronation.
What we do have is Trooping the Colour but it only involves land troops from a very small section of the army, plus a small fly past once the royal family have returned to the palace.
The choreography of Trooping the Colour has been refined over many, many years and is all based around the ceremonial heart of London. Frankly, the possibility of DT, the Pentagon, or any combination of those being able to pull off something similar - but MUCH BIGGER OF COURSE - within 6 months is nil. [ 07. February 2018, 10:25: Message edited by: L'organist ]
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Well, we can look forward to the sight of The Great Lord Of The West standing on his podium wearing his square fur hat (dyed orange, to match the pile of cat fur he usually wears), taking the salute as THE BIGLIEST ARMY IN THE WORLD marches past.
Wouldn't it be fun if they all did a Moonie as they went by?
Or went round the corner, wheeled back, arrested the GLOTW, and carted him off to jug?
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Perhaps the military personnel will just all pull a sickie that day.
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quote: Originally posted by The Rogue: Perhaps the military personnel will just all pull a sickie that day.
I initially misread that as "sickle."
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quote: Originally posted by Alan Cresswell: quote: Originally posted by Martin60: 06:11:12:20:03:08
I think that's 6 years 11 months 12 days 20 hours 3 minutes and 8 seconds
Sure. But why not just say only xxxxxxxxxx maximum until all this agony is over? Any more chat in the Styx please.
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quote: Originally posted by Ohher: quote: Originally posted by The Rogue: Perhaps the military personnel will just all pull a sickie that day.
I initially misread that as "sickle."
And a hammer. To keep the old school Russkies happy.
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Pangolin Guerre
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quote: Originally posted by Oscar the Grouch: quote: Originally posted by Pangolin Guerre: if it must be, I'd prefer 11 November
This would be the most offensive date to choose - the day when so many millions of people are stopping to remember the tragedy of war. The fucking Yanks didn't win WW1. In fact NO ONE won. It was a monstrous cock-up from start to finish, whose impacts we are still living through. The eleventh hour of the eleventh day of the eleventh month is a time for silence and mourning. Not a time for militaristic willy waving.
That's part of my point. The other proposed dates don't have death quite so front and centre (at least, not in my estimation - I invite American shipmates to correct me). It's not a "victory day", so rather undercuts any attempt at triumphalism. As a global comparison of observances on that day, the Americans would invite ridicule and opprobium if they were to try to turn it into a jingo-fest.
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Brenda Clough
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They always do something in the US on Veterans Day, and as I recall it is often a parade in Washington DC -- my son marched in it once, with his Reserve company. It is always unmilitaristic, with Scout troupes and people dressed as George Washington or Uncle Sam, and very minor local officials sitting in convertibles waving at people who don't recognize them. Lots of flags, no armaments. A more truly American parade is the local 4th of July or Memorial Day parades. These often involve the Shriners (aka the Masons) in their various costume iterations, clowns, horses, hillbillies, and so forth. There are floats, constructed by scout groups or even the senior citizen home. The library always has a Library Cart Drill Team and I have marched wrangling a giant balloon (in the shape of an eagle; by being inattentive to our cables we could make the eagle's wings flap). Because this is the mid-Atlantic there's always people dressed in Colonial costume, a group of people in Civil War uniforms, and at least four or five high school marching bands. These parades are truly fun; everyone brings the kids and a good time is had by all -- the true America. But since there is no weaponry the phallic needs of the pussygrabber will not be met, and so he has to have something different.
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There is a stark difference between Veterans' Day and Armistice Day (11th November) or Remembrance Sunday.
Veterans' Day is to "honor", i.e. celebrate living people who have served in the military; the US war dead are remembered on Memorial Day.
Given DJT's clouded involvement with things military I'd have thought his wishing to have an event highlighting that to be evidence of either hubris or insanity, possibly both. For him to choose to have a vainglorious military display on 11th November would be an especial affront to the UK and France (among others) who lost so many in WWI when US casualties from combat were fewer than India, Canada or Bulgaria. [ 07. February 2018, 13:42: Message edited by: L'organist ]
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I hear that the battle tanks will chew up the tarmac. Wonder about heavy duty missile carriers?
Also whether the Donald will use some kind of straight arm salute.
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El Presidente’s relationship to France and Manu Macron intrigues me. Trump’s interest in a big military parade is clearly motivated by being invited to the 14th of July here. (BTW – driving tanks over the roads does indeed knacker them. The state of the roads in Paris is generally shocking – I endeavour to read a book as I ride the bus most days, and can tell you exactly where the roads are where this is strictly impossible because of the juddering. The Champs Elysées is one and the armoured vehicles do nothing to improve matters.)
A couple of things: Manu turned up on the Champs Elysées in the back of an open-top military vehicle, waving and flashing his pearly-whites at the crowds, which had to impress El Presidente. I think it’s safe to assume that Manu was wearing a bullet-proof vest underneath his snappy tailoring, but nonetheless the chance of Trump being allowed to do the same is exactly zero. Post-JFK, US Presidents Do. Not. Do drive-bys in open vehicles. Ever.
Beyond that, Trump seems to get on with Macron, and even to rather admire him. This fascinates me because Macron has made it clear from the famous handshake wars on that he is not going to be pushed around by the big orange aberration. Supremely arrogant as he is, Manu seems to me genuinely to enjoy standing up to bullies (Exhibit the first: Vladimir Putin. Exhibit the second: Recep Erdogan) and somehow this wins Trump’s respect.
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quote: Originally posted by L'organist: posted by Gramps49 quote: BTW, I think the Brits are also known for presenting great military parades. Let's see the OO top yours as well.
Actually no, we don't really have any military parades as such. The closest you'll find with all three branches of the military (sea, land and air) represented is in the procession at the end of a coronation.
What we do have is Trooping the Colour but it only involves land troops from a very small section of the army, plus a small fly past once the royal family have returned to the palace.
The choreography of Trooping the Colour has been refined over many, many years and is all based around the ceremonial heart of London. Frankly, the possibility of DT, the Pentagon, or any combination of those being able to pull off something similar - but MUCH BIGGER OF COURSE - within 6 months is nil.
As a GLA* I get a bit twitchy about military stuff like Trooping of the Colour, Remembrance et. al. but I am generally reassured by my interaction with military and ex-military people. The people I worry about are people who wouldn't dream of joining the armed services but identify strongly wit the military. Like Don.. ah, my bad, forget I said anything.
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quote: Originally posted by romanlion: quote: Originally posted by Barnabas62: Given his character and previous history as a witness, his advisers are, understandably, desperate to avoid that!
He lies and misrepresents routinely. There was a famous judge's quote about the disgraced UK politician John Stonehouse. 'For Mr Stonehouse, truth was a moving target'.
You can say that in spades for President Trump.
Little wonder that as a rookie he plays this game so effectively. Must be infuriating for those that have been practicing for decades...
It seems inaccurate to portray Donald Trump as a "rookie" liar. He's been lying publicly for decades, from falsely telling black apartment seekers he has nothing available to telling his construction contractors that the check is in the mail to claiming that every instructor at Trump "University" was hand-picked by him to all three sets of his wedding vows. And Trump isn't even especially good at it, despite his years of near constant practice. His lies are still fairly transparent and laughably self-serving.
quote: Originally posted by Boogie: quote: Originally posted by Pangolin Guerre: Trump gets a woody from things military
Woody feet, apparently.
Trump's military posturing and accusations of treason against anyone who doesn't clap hard enough for him ("Tinker Bell Syndrome"?) seems to have gotten up the nose of Tammy Duckworth:
quote: We don't live in a dictatorship or a monarchy. I swore an oath — in the military and in the Senate — to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States, not to mindlessly cater to the whims of Cadet Bone Spurs and clap when he demands I clap
For those who are unfamiliar with her, Senator Duckworth (D-IL) is a retired Lieutenant Colonel who lost both legs in combat in Iraq.
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Yes, I wondered about General Genitalgrabber the Great doing a straight-arm salute.
I also wondered if he could manage a straight-willy salute, to match the ICBMs....
I'll get me coat...
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quote: Originally posted by Bishops Finger: Yes, I wondered about General Genitalgrabber the Great doing a straight-arm salute.
Some of his more ardent supporters already have that covered.
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quote: Originally posted by la vie en rouge: El Presidente’s relationship to France and Manu Macron intrigues me. Trump’s interest in a big military parade is clearly motivated by being invited to the 14th of July here.
This is the root of the trouble. Crooked Don is very, very VERY easily influenced for evil. I could really wish that Macron had invited him to a book circle, or Euro Disney, or a tour of the Paris Catacombs. A mistaken hospitable impulse and we're all on the hook for this.
More seriously from the Atlantic, an analysis of the Trump/FBI issues. [ 07. February 2018, 14:43: Message edited by: Brenda Clough ]
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quote: Originally posted by Crœsos: quote: Originally posted by romanlion: quote: Originally posted by Barnabas62: Given his character and previous history as a witness, his advisers are, understandably, desperate to avoid that!
He lies and misrepresents routinely. There was a famous judge's quote about the disgraced UK politician John Stonehouse. 'For Mr Stonehouse, truth was a moving target'.
You can say that in spades for President Trump.
Little wonder that as a rookie he plays this game so effectively. Must be infuriating for those that have been practicing for decades...
It seems inaccurate to portray Donald Trump as a "rookie" liar.
I thought it was obvious enough that no POTUS is a rookie liar. The "game" I refer to is the national political game.
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M. Macron is clearly playing the Lord of Modern Mordor for the fool he is (the LOMM, I mean), but perhaps Manu is going just a game too far.
One can only hope that a VERY BIGLY sinkhole appears immediately under his BIGLIEST PODIUM IN THE WORLD just as the Orange Lord takes the salute.
Of course, if such an enticing event does occur, it will be because America Is Great Again, And Has Biglier Sinkholes Than Shithole Countries...
Covfefe, anyone?
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quote: Originally posted by romanlion: I thought it was obvious enough that no POTUS is a rookie liar. The "game" I refer to is the national political game.
Given that you were responding to (and quoting) B62's post about Trump's indifferent relationship with the truth, it doesn't seem that obvious you were talking about "the national political game". On that level Trump certainly isn't "play[ing] this game so effectively". Despite Republicans having control of all branches of the federal government their only significant accomplishment to date is a highly unpopular tax bill which Trump had almost nothing to do with.
Donald "Shutdown" Trump having trouble keeping the lights on is not what anyone else considers "effective", and it's kind of appalling that you consider the actual human suffering this would involve to be a "game".
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While Trump is a habitual liar and a pathological liar, he really is not very good at it. If you tell a really good lie, no one ever detects it. Robert Heinlein commented once that telling a wholly successful lie is as difficult as composing a wholly successful opera.
I have heard (I don't recall where) that one of the most talented liars in history was Niccolo Macchiavelli, who stayed in practice by lying to his friends and family--and they couldn't tell. Trump is no Macchiavelli. (Also, of course, Macchiavelli was a great admirer of the republic, not the principality, as a system of government, another difference from Trump.)
The very slickest way to lie, of course, is to tell the exact truth, all of it and nothing more, but to do so unconvincingly. (Some preachers do this, perhaps unwittingly.)
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quote: Originally posted by Bishops Finger: One can only hope that a VERY BIGLY sinkhole appears immediately under his BIGLIEST PODIUM IN THE WORLD just as the Orange Lord takes the salute.
Of course, if such an enticing event does occur, it will be because America Is Great Again, And Has Biglier Sinkholes Than Shithole Countries...
Covfefe, anyone?
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oh the money tangent, it looks like a course correction, rather than some underlying loss of confidence. And that's good news for now.
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Brenda Clough
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The local government says Tanks but No Tanks.
“I don’t think anyone believes this would be about trying to honor men and women who serve our country. This would only be about feeding one man’s ego,” said Council member Charles Allen (D-Ward 6). Non-Americans should know that the District of Columbia, and all the affiliated suburbs for a day's drive all around, are resolutely blue and voted for Clinton.
In theory the federal government would pay to repave the roads after the tanks chew up the pavement, but you'd be a fool to trust Crooked Don's promises of future compensation. (What is he going to do, use the money that Mexico is going to give us for the wall?) And the traffic tie-ups while they relay the asphalt are horrible to contemplate.
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quote: Originally posted by Brenda Clough: In theory the federal government would pay to repave the roads after the tanks chew up the pavement, but you'd be a fool to trust Crooked Don's promises of future compensation.
Given the Republicans' persistent inability to appropriate a regular budget, this is a very reasonable position.
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On reflection, I think that there should be a bloody big military parade in Washington. With the following provisos: - Date to be somewhere in November (AFTER 11th) or January
- The parade should be at least 5 hours in length, to allow for all branches of the military to be fully included
- Regulations should be established the Commander -in-Chief should be present, standing, at all times.
- Regulations should also state that the C-i-C should - out of respect for the brave men and women of the armed forces - remain bareheaded for the entire duration of the parade. In addition, any type of awning, covering or umbrellas should be absolutely forbidden.
Then let the Orange Ego stand there in a winter's storm for 5+ hours and let's see how long he lasts....
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I think the Cat On His Head would succumb first...but he could probably save it. After all, he's good at grabbing pussies.
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44.2's Veep, aides, and above, his Cabinet likewise. Also Speaker of the House and Senate President -- we cannot leave them out.
Maybe the Koch brothers, too? It's their coup, after all.
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quote: Originally posted by la vie en rouge: El Presidente’s relationship to France and Manu Macron intrigues me. Trump’s interest in a big military parade is clearly motivated by being invited to the 14th of July here.
Well, that is what they are saying now, but it was reported as far back as Trump's January 2017 inauguration that he wanted a big military parade. So attributing it to him seeing a military parade in France in July is what politicians like to call "spin" and the rest of humanity calls "a lie."
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quote: Originally posted by Hedgehog: quote: Originally posted by la vie en rouge: El Presidente’s relationship to France and Manu Macron intrigues me. Trump’s interest in a big military parade is clearly motivated by being invited to the 14th of July here.
Well, that is what they are saying now, but it was reported as far back as Trump's January 2017 inauguration that he wanted a big military parade. So attributing it to him seeing a military parade in France in July is what politicians like to call "spin" and the rest of humanity calls "a lie."
Actually it's called "quoting the available sources":
quote: “The marching orders were: I want a parade like the one in France,” said a military official who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the planning discussions are supposed to remain confidential. “This is being worked at the highest levels of the military.”
Yes, Trump is a petty authoritarian who has always longed for a North Korean / Soviet style military parade and did indeed want such a spectacle for his inauguration, but apparently the French display prodded his gnat-like memory to re-prioritize this desire. Seeing the event in France (which we infer from our anonymous "military official") is what stirred the feelings of inadequacy in the short-fingered vulgarian and why this has apparently re-emerged as a priority now. Somewhat similar to his recent 'hey wait, didn't I say I'd do something about opioids?' moves. [ 07. February 2018, 21:05: Message edited by: Crœsos ]
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quote: Originally posted by Martin60: 06:11:12:20:03:08
Sorry, EST years, months, days, hours, minutes, seconds of Trump presidency remaining as at 08:56:52 GMT this morning. [ 07. February 2018, 21:12: Message edited by: Martin60 ]
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quote: Originally posted by LutheranChik: A friend of mine confesses to a naughty fantasy involving Herr Trumpenführer riding down Pennsylvania Ave. Slim Pickens style, atop a missile launcher...whoopsie!
"Wal, shoo! We'll have that parade if it harelips every newborn in Foggy Bottom!" (Apologies to the late great Slim Pickens and Stanley Kubrick.) [ 07. February 2018, 21:40: Message edited by: Amanda B. Reckondwythe ]
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quote: Originally posted by Ohher: 44.2's Veep, aides, and above, his Cabinet likewise. Also Speaker of the House and Senate President -- we cannot leave them out.
Better mention them twice then.
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quote: Originally posted by Crœsos: Actually it's called "quoting the available sources"
All that means is that he has been lying about his "inspiration" since July. Give Trump some credit: even he is not so stupid as to say "I want a parade like my handler Vlad Putin has!"
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