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Being told that the church Summer Fair is in danger of having an empty white elephant stall is a good spur to a spot of light decluttering!
I have already donated a couple of unwanted Christmas presents to the Tombola (its no fun if all the prizes are desirable is it?) and we have been collecting unwanted books since the Christmas Fair.

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Any time I've donated unwanted stuff to church tombolas etc, I've ended up winning worse stuff back....
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The trouble with donating unwanted pressies to the Fête Worse Than Death™ is that the person from whom you got them might very well be there and think, "didn't I give something like that to D. and Piglet last Christmas?"

[Eek!]

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JoannaP
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quote:
Originally posted by piglet:
The trouble with donating unwanted pressies to the Fête Worse Than Death™ is that the person from whom you got them might very well be there and think, "didn't I give something like that to D. and Piglet last Christmas?"

[Eek!]

The chances of my mother travelling 100 miles to attend an event she does not know about are slim, so we are safe from that horrid fate. [Biased] [Biased]

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quote:
Originally posted by piglet:
The trouble with donating unwanted pressies to the Fête Worse Than Death™ is that the person from whom you got them might very well be there and think, "didn't I give something like that to D. and Piglet last Christmas?"

[Eek!]

If it's something that has been given to me by a parishioner, I donate it elsewhere. (I once bought at a church rummage sale a present I had given someone else!)

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My church, bless them, has a used book sale every August. The best way to think of this is as a way to exchange books you do not (at the moment) want for books that you (at the moment) do. And this year should be especially efficacious for me. The donation period is just before I leave for London, so I will not be in town for the actual sale at all.

In the meantime, however, a relative has sent me two large boxes of framed family photographs, mostly of persons already deceased. I know this is in preparation for the relative's moving house. I still don't appreciate it.

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quote:
Originally posted by North East Quine:
Any time I've donated unwanted stuff to church tombolas etc, I've ended up winning worse stuff back....

Give donations - do not accept tickets!!

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Originally posted by Brenda Clough:
My church, bless them, has a used book sale every August. The best way to think of this is as a way to exchange books you do not (at the moment) want for books that you (at the moment) do.

I agree in theory...but Mr P and I are now officially responsible for the book stall at church fairs and, spending several hours with the books, putting them out etc., gives one lots of opportunity to find interesting things. I could try to institute a rule of buying no more than we donate but I am not sure that would work.

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quote:
Originally posted by North East Quine:
Any time I've donated unwanted stuff to church tombolas etc, I've ended up winning worse stuff back....

At the tombola in the bazaars of one church I went to there used to be a huge doll dressed in a red flamenco dress - it was the unspoken and unwritten rule that whoever won it brought it back, and everyone was more than pleased to do so. The doll made a fabulous focal point, but was a bit much in anyone's home.... or so we thought until one day she vanished.
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quote:
Originally posted by Pigwidgeon:
quote:
Originally posted by piglet:
The trouble with donating unwanted pressies to the Fête Worse Than Death™ is that the person from whom you got them might very well be there and think, "didn't I give something like that to D. and Piglet last Christmas?"

[Eek!]

If it's something that has been given to me by a parishioner, I donate it elsewhere. (I once bought at a church rummage sale a present I had given someone else!)
I once had a small and rather ugly model of a duck. I gave this to my mother, who sold it in a church car boot sale. Six months later it turned up in a church tombola. It was won by my aunt, who gifted it to my 10 year old niece - much to my sister's chagrin. I believe it found a home in her flowerbed.

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quote:
Originally posted by Cottontail:
I once had a small and rather ugly model of a duck. I gave this to my mother, who sold it in a church car boot sale. Six months later it turned up in a church tombola. It was won by my aunt, who gifted it to my 10 year old niece - much to my sister's chagrin. I believe it found a home in her flowerbed.

You are allowed to landfill the truly ugly/pointless/unwanted things! Repeat after me. It's ok to throw it away. It's ok to throw it away... IN THE BIN!

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Originally posted by ecumaniac:
quote:
Originally posted by Cottontail:
I once had a small and rather ugly model of a duck. I gave this to my mother, who sold it in a church car boot sale. Six months later it turned up in a church tombola. It was won by my aunt, who gifted it to my 10 year old niece - much to my sister's chagrin. I believe it found a home in her flowerbed.

You are allowed to landfill the truly ugly/pointless/unwanted things! Repeat after me. It's ok to throw it away. It's ok to throw it away... IN THE BIN!
I agree. Except the 10 year old niece loved it!

Sister's problem, not mine. [Snigger]

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A happy ending then!

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Next phase of decluttering must begin next week - if only I'd realised it before today though. Today 2 people arrive to stay for a few nights, which has meant I spent the morning moving Stuff from my usual room to the Smallest Room in the house and emptying a few drawers for them to use, as well as moving furniture on the landing (only holding more Stuff) that I can avoid in the dark but which might catch my guests out. First bags of Stuff (mostly bedding) go to the charity shop this afternoon, and The Smallest Room is now full of Stuff that I thought might come in useful one day and that hasn't (usual story). I think I can get to my bed in there [Ultra confused]
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The next phase has begun [Smile] . 1 large item sold, another large item about to be collected, and I'm dismantling a bed (no-one wants it) to take it to the dump. I'm being ruthless and taking even more Stuff to charity shops.
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The Great Study Declutter started yesterday, but was mostly tidying up other rooms, so that I had somewhere to move the clutter, pending decluttering.

I start properly today. Books into the diningroom, paperwork into the living room, photographs on the settee and a wee work station -shredder / bin / paper recycling box / charity box / possible sellables box set up in the hallway.

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I got rid of four sacks of clothes last weekend and (thanks to the British Heart Foundation) a sackful of unwanted books last Thursday. Now wondering what to do with a bunch of old VHS tapes that we have no further use for. Can they be recycled? Does anyone know of a UK-based charity that's still taking them for resale?

Next job is shredding old papers. I've been putting it off for a long time, so there are rather a lot of them.

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The only UK place that I can find that will recycle VHS tapes, but it's not a brilliantly straightforward process.

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The Great Study Declutter is going very slowly. I've emptied about a quarter of the contets of the study, and only one piece of furniture, and yet I have managed to take over the livingroom, dining room and hall.

I'm going to empty it all, then sort and declutter before putting any of it back.

I can't believe how much dust there is!

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I took out six bags of trash today!

Mind you, they weren't clutter in the usual sense, just, um, hadn't taken them out in a bit... [Hot and Hormonal] But still!! [Smile]

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It's a start, CM ... [Big Grin]

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Unexpected phone call this morning means we have unexpected guests coming soon so Himself and Herself are going to have to move back upstairs into their own bedroom [don't ask, okay?] so the great bedroom declutter is underway - for the last couple of months all sorts of things have been dumped on their bed - it's a BIG job!

[Snigger]

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Got rid of 1970's wall units ( well into garage ) and sorted the hundreds of books and wine glasses on their shelves. I even regifted some new champagne glasses when I counted the 60 champagne flutes I already owned! I did keep and drink the french champagne that came with them.

The problem is the hundreds of books which were were of no use - old text books, damaged etc were bagged and put in the boot.

Since that time ( a few months ago) the books have had many journeys around the countryside and interstate and one by one I spot one that looks interesting when lifting the shopping bags stacked on top of them and it makes its way back into the house,

I must go to the tip.

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Repeat after me - 'I must go to the tip'.

Go directly to the tip. Do not pass Go. Do not collect £200.

Continue to repeat until you reach the tip (AND throw all those books into the skip!)

Mr. S again raised the question of a new kitchen last night - the thought of the havoc that would ensue is enough to deter even an avowed declutterer such as me!

Mrs. S, only too aware of what's at the back of all those cupboards! [Help]

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And when you're at the tip, dump your books and go straight home - don't stop to look at the possibly-useful things that other people have left there!
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The Great Study Declutter is into week 2. The livingroom is completely full of paperwork. The diningroom is completely full of books. The hall has the empty bookcases, so I'm walking sideways along it.

I've been slowed down by finding all sorts of interesting things, although a bit depressed to find decades old New Years Resolution lists that say "This is the year I will write my novel" something which also featured on this year's NYR list.

Still, the horrible green and pink flowery wallpaper is gone! I've only painted one wall so far, but I'm very pleased with the way it's looking.

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quote:
Originally posted by Polly Plummer:
And when you're at the tip, dump your books and go straight home - don't stop to look at the possibly-useful things that other people have left there!

It's not just me then? [Hot and Hormonal]

It's worse than going into an animal shelter, all the things trying to look useful and cute and pleading 'take me, take me'. It needs a strong will.

Great progress North East Quine. What colour are you painting it?

The Intrepid Mrs S - how did you train your husband to voluntarily suggest a new kitchen? Is there an app? Or is he a top of the range model and came already programmed? [Snigger]

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The room is both our spare bedroom and our study, plus the repository for anything which doesn't really go anywhere else. I'm painting three walls (the walls the desk, bookcases and filing cabinets are against) in "parchment" a "warm neutral." Having had bookcases with multicoloured book spines against green and pink floral wallpaper was not good! Then I'm going to wallpaper the fourth wall (the one the bed is against) in an oat-meal and gold patterned paper.

I thought I could kill two birds with one stone on Sat by taking the godkids to the swimming pool and sorting through a large pile of Women's History magazines whilst spectating. There was a row of 32 empty seats. I went to the very furthest with my pile, intending to use the seats next to me for sorting. The an old lady came in and walked past 30 empty seats to sit next to me. No-one else came in after her.

So I was all crammed up, flicking through articles such as "The Lesbian vampire in pre-war Spanish literature" and "Abortion and sex-liberalism in Sweden in the 1960s" next to a sweet old lady. Sigh.

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I am also into a Great Study Declutter, week two.

I can not believe that I did it four years ago - it's taking an age!

At the moment I'm being ruthless with books - I want to cut them by two thirds. This to make space to take stuff from downstairs (which I do want to keep but isn't used every day) upstairs. I want 4 large spare drawers in the kitchen for Guide Dog stuff - the equipment arrived and there is lots of it!

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This is a first ever study declutter. When we moved here, 11 years ago, it was our "spare room" and was filled floor to ceiling with boxes. It took a few months before it was box-free, but it's never been a "planned" room - it just sort of evolved. The floral wallpaper and curtains were there when we moved in.

So this is a once-in-eleven-years declutter.

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quote:
Originally posted by Polly Plummer:
The Intrepid Mrs S - how did you train your husband to voluntarily suggest a new kitchen? Is there an app? Or is he a top of the range model and came already programmed? [Snigger]

Oh, he's a top-of-the-range model, but has still required various upgrades over the years!

I got my first dishwasher twenty-some years ago by giving him a surprise 40th party - as we stood there at 3 am washing glasses*, he said 'Thank you for my lovely party, would you like a dishwasher?'

* top-of-the-range, you see - couldn't go to bed and leave the kitchen untidy! [Overused]

THAT led to a new kitchen as the dishwasher and washing machine had to share a set of plumbing so couldn't both be run at once. This kitchen, however, is only 23 years old and has YEARS left in it...

I think the reason I'm procrastinating is I know we won't want the same things - he'll want high-gloss units and I'd much rather have wood *sigh*. When we re-did the bathrooms, basically we had to choose tiles etc for one bathroom each, or we'd still be stuck with the elephant-grey suites, tiles etc [Projectile]

Mrs. S, firmly resolved against melamine [Snigger]

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Decor sounds lovely North East Quine.

Boogie, I've managed to get rid of a lot of books, but somehow what appears to be huge quantities of books declutterd never seems to translate into an equivalent amount of freed up space.

The Intrepid Mrs S, sounds like you did get a top of the range model!

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My final artisan designed and hand painted tile has arrived. It's lovely. The plumbers and builder start my bathroom on August 18 [Yipee]

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quote:
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...Boogie, I've managed to get rid of a lot of books, but somehow what appears to be huge quantities of books declutterd never seems to translate into an equivalent amount of freed up space...

It's a little known fact that books breed. You've got to watch 'em like a hawk.

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I haven't posted here in quite a while (never? I can't remember) because the do-housework part of my brain is damaged. But the panic!panic! part of the brain that sees an apartment inspection coming is in fine working order. So I called a friend who has worked in enough batshit homes not to freak out at mine and we put in about eighteen hours of hard labor in the past few days and the place is nearly beaten into presentable order. (I did pay her some for her efforts.) She has had to leave on a short trip starting today, and there are still some things to do. Inspection should be Wednesday. I'm using the leftover momentum to finish. I told her I'd like to hire her to come in a couple of times a month to work for an hour or two side by side with me so I don't have to go through this panic again.

You guys are very inspiring, and I ask for your prayers for my persistence in finishing the job. Knowing myself I can use all the heavenly help you can ask for me. Thanks!

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It's a start, CM ... [Big Grin]

Yes, it's something I should again.

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CM some years back you were the person who introduced me to Flylady. I don't follow it now, but the principle of cleaning in 15 minute bites, with a rest in the 4th period allowed me to approach a very messy house without feeling totally overwhelmed when I had to evacuate for earthquake repairs 3 years ago.

I always wanted to thank you for that.

Huia

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Boogie

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quote:
Originally posted by Huia:
CM some years back you were the person who introduced me to Flylady. I don't follow it now, but the principle of cleaning in 15 minute bites, with a rest in the 4th period allowed me to approach a very messy house without feeling totally overwhelmed when I had to evacuate for earthquake repairs 3 years ago.

I always wanted to thank you for that.

Oh yes! I had forgotten all about flylady - but I still do the 15 minute thing, I just thought it had been my own idea!

[Smile]

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Welease Woderwick

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Hmmm, I can't get the link for Flylady to work but then some links don't work from here for some strange reason - the link is certainly the right link as I have checked that. Perhaps housew*rk links are banned here.

Anyone else having a problem with it?

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North East Quine

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As all our chairs had piles of books on them, I sat on the floor to take a phone call - and got wedged between bits of furniture. Had to be hauled up by my daughter. The sooner I can move stuff back into the study the better!
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I was able to open the Flylady link OK over here - as you say, WW, perhaps it's God's way of telling you that housework is a Bad Idea™.

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Boogie

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I could open it WW - looks like you are allergic!

All the many, many, many adverts are annoying, but here is a gem. I aspire to this and I AM getting there.

"One of the main reasons stuff piles up on counters, dining tables, coffee tables and floors is that it’s homeless. When an item has no “home,” it gets added to an IPOD (Important Pile Of Decisions). That’s why it’s important to make sure everything in your home lives somewhere"

as my Mum used to say "A place for everything and everything in its place". She managed this for 93 years - I clearly don't have her jeans!

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Nenya
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quote:
Originally posted by Boogie:
"One of the main reasons stuff piles up on counters, dining tables, coffee tables and floors is that it’s homeless. When an item has no “home,” it gets added to an IPOD (Important Pile Of Decisions). That’s why it’s important to make sure everything in your home lives somewhere."

That's very good, and very true.

Frankly, we have never decluttered. I'm a bit of a hoarder and Mr Nen is even worse. If I clear a space, he moves some of his stuff into it. [brick wall] [Mad] He grew up as an only child in a large house - the spare room was his, as was the lounge (his parents basically lived in the kitchen-diner with the Aga) and never had to clear stuff out. When we made the big move from the south coast to where we are now, empty paint pots from the garage came with us. [Roll Eyes]

However, we have a big Life Change coming upon us as Nenlet2 flies the nest in September and decluttering is top of my list. I have yet to have The Talk with Mr Nen to establish this. [Help]

Nen - hoarder with inner minimalist struggling to get out.

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quote:
Originally posted by Boogie:
I clearly don't have her jeans!

[Smile]

One less thing to declutter. Whereas her genes sound as if they'd be a good thing to have.
[Biased]

(My Mom's jeans wouldn't fit me, and -- unfortunately -- her genes are one of my excuses for a tendency to clutter.)

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Boogie

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quote:
Originally posted by Pigwidgeon:
quote:
Originally posted by Boogie:
I clearly don't have her jeans!

[Smile]

One less thing to declutter. Whereas her genes sound as if they'd be a good thing to have.

Oooops - disslecksia rools!

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Jenn.
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Had a clear out today - 6 boxes emptied and half a box of relevant stuff put back to be filed. Feeling very pleased with myself!

Now need to keep up the momentum for the desk...

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I like the 15 minute thing (and indeed was taught about using a timer by Daddy Vern) but FlyLady drives me insane. I perceive a very... ah... 1950s sitcom notion of reality from her, so your mileage may vary.

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ecumaniac

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I like "unf*** your habitat" which is like flylady but without the girly housewife stuff which annoys me a lot.

Replace the *** with the f word.

Oh yeah, there's a lot of swearing ! So you need to be ok with that.

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Huia
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That sounds more like my kind of thing Ecumanic. I found the 15 minute thing and some of hints helpful on FlyLady, but not the worldview.

Will check out your suggestion.

Huia

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Uncle Pete

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I have just done cleaning up 2 file boxes. When the other file is done, it will be slimmer. Total time agonising: 1 year. Total time spent filing: 30 minutes,

[Eek!]

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