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Jason™

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Just found this thread by searching for it, after 1000 posts and almost a year on the Ship.

Good read. This is quite the story.


What was the Ark?

What was the special surprise project that had been worked on "in the dark" and was going to be released "soon" way back in '03?

-Digory

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Niënna

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check this out re: ark.

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RooK

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quote:
Originally posted by professorkirke:
What was the special surprise project that had been worked on "in the dark" and was going to be released "soon" way back in '03?

That was our stash of Weapons of Mass Criticism (holy Mass, that is). I seem to recall that they got lost somewhere.
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Max.
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Wow! Reading through this thread feels like reading an old usenet forum or something!

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jlg

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Which isn't the point of the thread. [Roll Eyes]
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Lynn MagdalenCollege
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Having read the whole puppy, the entire enchilada, I do have a question (!!) - can you explain how the Dead Horses board works? I came on late last year and assumed it was dead threads, but... apparently not. Asking the question (which is serious) also serves to bump this thread back to the first page on the Styx... thanks for everything -

now, go do that voodoo that you do so well...

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Alan Cresswell

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The Dead Horses board is reserved for discussion of the select group of subjects that fall into that category - those that keep reappearing here and every other Christian discussion board, have no right answer, and cause headaches for the hosts. They're aren't closed threads, you can still contribute to the discussion (especially if by some miracle you have something new to say). Only admins or the board host can start threads there.

For threads that are read-only, go to Limbo where we preserve most of the better threads we've had once they've reached the end of their life on the regular boards.

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fisher
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It's an interesting read! I'd also like to hear any opinions (don't have to just be from hosts and admins) on how the character of the boards has changed and is changing.

Are things much busier now than a few years ago - how many more posts a day, say (roughly)?

Is it still as interesting?

Do as many new and original subjects come up?

Is the Ship now more confessionally / theologically diverse?

Was the atmosphere originally more "clubby" - everyone knowing each other?

Am I correct in thinking that the orthodox online magazine element has declined at the expense of the boards and occasional (but no doubt very labour-intensive) "specials"?

And, of course, if those In The Know want to drop any hints about what's planned for the future then I'm a sucker for that.

Thanks!

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Was the long awaited project The Church of Fools? It was certainly what attracted me to the site originally - although it was not to my liking and I settled here instead.

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I have just read this thread in its entirety. Absolutely fascinating.

I want to say a big thank you to all those who work so hard behind the scenes to make the Ship the wonderful place it is.
[Overused] [Overused] [Overused]

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Ann

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Now you've read the history of the Ship, try the future history.

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Belisarius
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quote:
Originally posted by fisher:
Are things much busier now than a few years ago - how many more posts a day, say (roughly)?

...Was the atmosphere originally more "clubby" - everyone knowing each other?

So far, 1,491 registrations have made Shipmate status, of which 697 have posts for this month, compared (per previous page) to a 539/1,042 ratio in July 2004. The percentage of active posters has gone down, but the overall traffic has probably gone up about a third.

Overall, the Neoworks incarnation must have been clubbier, as it had only between 100 and 200 registrations, but in absolute numbers the UBB "In Crowd" must be larger.

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Chelley

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Just finished reading my way through this thread (got through a giant bar of Aero in the process!) - very interesting, especially for a newbie, and answered some of my wonderings on the life of the Ship! Thanks.

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Moo

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quote:
Originally posted by Belisarius:
Overall, the Neoworks incarnation must have been clubbier, as it had only between 100 and 200 registrations...

At one point Erin said there were about 50 people who posted regularly. There wasn't nearly as much on the boards, so people read almost everything.

I don't think the day will ever come again when Erin, Gill H, and I post on the same thread.

Moo

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Ian Climacus

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quote:
Originally posted by Simon:
The first instance I know of the name Ship of Fools is in a 15th-century allegorical poem by Sebastian Brant, who set his drama on a ship crewed by all the fools of the world.

On the historic usage of Ship of Fools(*), but from the following century, a friend set me this entry from the complete Oxford Dictionary: thought you might be interested.
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1517 Watson Shyppe of Fooles a ij, I am the fyrste in the shyppe vagaunte with the other fooles.

OED Volume V. p 10

(*)and I recall a thread which mentioned the wonderful woodcuts from this book: here they are for those interested: thanks to whomever it was who first posted them.

[ 25. May 2006, 03:43: Message edited by: Ian Climacus ]

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Gill H

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quote:
Originally posted by Moo:
I don't think the day will ever come again when Erin, Gill H, and I post on the same thread.
Moo

Wanna bet? [Biased]

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Moo

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quote:
Originally posted by Ian Climacus:
...and I recall a thread which mentioned the wonderful woodcuts from this book: here they are for those interested: thanks to whomever it was who first posted them.

It's nice to learn the Latin for Ship of Fools--Stultifera Navis.

Moo

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Robert Armin

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quote:
Originally posted by Dyfrig (on 28th July 2003):
quote:
Originally posted by Kenwritez:
OK, so I'm trying to get a feel for where the Ship is sailing. Where do the Simon, Erin, RuthW and the other Admins see the Ship in a year, two, three?

September 2003 - new poster arrives. Within 6 posts she has offended thirteen racial minorities, the gay community and Wood. Four days are lost to the ensuing arguments. 27 Heaven regulars threaten to leave because of the heartache involvde. pyx_e insults Nightlamp.

February 2004 - Simon asks for money

May 2004 - apprentice starts "Mornington Crescent" game in Heaven.

January 2005 - further changes to board software mean Ship is down for two weeks

February 2005 - Ship goes back on line. Fiddleback starts thread in Styx complaining about how things were better befoer the change. His fourteen multiple posts of the same message have to be manually removed because he has managed to crash the system.

August 2005 - Simon asks for money

This is astounding! Dear mystic Dyfrig, do you have any more predictions to guide us into the future?

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Alan Cresswell

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I predict that this thread will hold what you're looking for.

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Robert Armin

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Ah, what it is to be well read. Many thanks; that's a thread I had missed completely. (Now when am I going to find the time to read it?)

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Keeping fit was an obsession with Fr Moity .... He did chin ups in the vestry, calisthenics in the pulpit, and had developed a series of Tai-Chi exercises to correspond with ritual movements of the Mass. The Antipope Robert Rankin

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Facisnating thread & mucho [Overused] & thanks to Erin, Simon and co. Until I read through this and read about the Hurricane Joanne incident,etc I had no idea how much s**t you guys had gone through at points to keep this running.

Also the Ark looked facinating any plans for a rerun?

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(Bump!) Here's one: What was Small Fire?
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Gracious rebel

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It was a special interest board for discussing Alt worship. Along with one called The Mystery Worshipper, they were combined to form what we now have as Ecclesiantics.

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Alan Cresswell

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In the distant past, Small Fire was also a column on the magazine dedicated to alternative worship. The board was a place to discuss the contents of that column. Though, rather like the MW board that existed to discuss MW reports, it did grow beyond merely discussing the column. Which is why it survived long after the last SF column.

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Jengie jon

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When Emergining Church was not yet coined, but after NOS had done its bellyflop at Ponds Forge, there were across the country small bands of Christians who gathered together see if they could find what was meant by the term Alternative Worship.

This was noticed by Ship of Fools who asked Steve Collins as a participant to report on a selection of these groups in a column. That Column was called Small Fire and the board that went with it was also called Small Fire. It became a rather unusual space even by Alternative Worship fraternity as the majority of participants were female but it was small as were all alternative worship things at the time. It depended on the input of a few, mainly male posters to keep lively discussion going. When these got caught up into things like Emergingchurch.info it ran out of steam and was merged with the Mystery Worship board to make Ecclesiantics.

As I hope I have indicated it was very much a night camp on a journey for many. Necessary at the time but now part of events they have moved on from.

Jengie

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Belisarius
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quote:
Originally posted by Tractor Girl:
...the Ark looked facinating any plans for a rerun?

Not in the forseeable future (if nothing else, would there be an adequate number of new biblical characters?).

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Lyda*Rose

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In the great tradition of reality game shows how about "Ark Allstars"? [Biased]

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Chorister

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How the transformation from Small Fire and MW to Ecclesiantics was announced. Which is an interesting read in itself.

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Avalon
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quote:
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Alright, I've read the small group one and found a table setting one;and I think Limbo will be the death of me.Any estimates on whether anyone embarking on reading their way through Limbo ever comes out again - and, if so, when?

Oh, wow, did this project just get a major renovation around my ears! Down to 7 pages and the dust not settled yet apparently.

[Hot and Hormonal] And I think I just admitted to being mad and obsessive. (Do you think I could paint that as inquisitive and methodical?) And I've cancelled Christmas in favour of pagan festivals (solves so many family politic problems) since I wandered into Limbo so I don't have that landmark either...

wanders off into oblivion...

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Avalon,

Hope you haven't wandered so far into oblivion that you don't see this. I just tried to reply to your PM (okay, it's taken a while, for which I apologise), and find that you've gone ex-communicado. If you're happy to continue the conversation, please get in touch.

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Mr. Rob
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Yes, many thanks for those readings from the Ship's log. [Smile]
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quote:
Originally posted by Chorister:
How the transformation from Small Fire and MW to Ecclesiantics was announced. Which is an interesting read in itself.

Yes, I remember. We had a special requiem for MW, as I recall, eventually settling upon black chasubles in the gothic cut, but with birette allowed. Not sure what setting we plumped for.

This was followed by a short-lived and unhappy attempt to resurrect the GIN thread on the new board, although it has since found a new home on Via Media.

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Lynn MagdalenCollege
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quote:
Originally posted by Chorister:
How the transformation from Small Fire and MW to Ecclesiantics was announced. Which is an interesting read in itself.

Well, I cruised in and was intrigued by this but am currently getting a "you've requested a thread that does not exist" message... hmmm...

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KenWritez
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I'm wistful for the return of the Nativity Play. I'd love to see it become an annual event.

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jlg

What is this place?
Why am I here?
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I re-read the entire Nativity Play about six weeks ago. It really was fun!
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basso

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quote:
Originally posted by Lynn MagdalenCollege:
Well, I cruised in and was intrigued by this but am currently getting a "you've requested a thread that does not exist" message... hmmm...

Apparently some of the threads intended for Oblivion instead went into. . .um. . .oblivion.

b.

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Arleigh
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quote:
Originally posted by jlg:
I re-read the entire Nativity Play about six weeks ago. It really was fun!

Me, too. Strange to think we were there together ...

Reading the Nativity Play [Killing me] for the first time (Christmas 2003) and subsequently crossing to the Miss Molly thread Fields of Gold [Tear] made me realize how special this community is.

♥Arleigh

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Gill H

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I think when the merger of MW and Small Fire was announced, I suggested a new name of 'Let's Talk Tat'n'Tealights'. [Razz]

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Kelly Alves

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Heh. I was just thinking the other day about starting a thread called "Nativity Play Reunion Call."

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Scarlet

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quote:
Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
Heh. I was just thinking the other day about starting a thread called "Nativity Play Reunion Call."

OMG! Would you??? [Yipee]

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Lynn MagdalenCollege
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um.... where would I find the Nativity Play, if I was wishing to read it...?

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Scot
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Click here to read the Nativity Play.

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Gwai
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Seriously does look wonderful. The ship should do it again.

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Chelley

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I am particularly impressed so far with the performance of Sheep3!

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Gwai
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And I am absolutely positive that Steve Tomkins should feel guilty for making me laugh out loud so often (at work). And I was holding it in whenever I could, too!

[ 27. October 2006, 21:25: Message edited by: Gwai ]

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Stoo

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quote:
Originally posted by Scot:
Click here to read the Nativity Play.

Er... can I register a complaint that Herod doesn't feature in the distinguished cast list?

Quite possibly, it's because he wasn't that distinguished, but any way...

(Yes... I have only just noticed)

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jlg

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quote:
Originally posted by Chelley:
I am particularly impressed so far with the performance of Sheep3!

Sheep3 gazes adoringly at Chelley

Baaaa.

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Miffy

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quote:
Originally posted by Stoo:
quote:
Originally posted by Scot:
Click here to read the Nativity Play.

Er... can I register a complaint that Herod doesn't feature in the distinguished cast list?

Quite possibly, it's because he wasn't that distinguished, but any way...

(Yes... I have only just noticed)

Well you certainly threw yourself into the spirit of the part I seem to remember. [Big Grin]

While four years down the line I think I've got over the trauma of being called...what it was you called me one scene. I was only trying to keep you on the straight and narrow. (To those not in the know - Herod had problems holding his drink.) [Biased]

And if we're in the business of laying claim to the title of Most Humble Cast Member could I give a big hand to Chris T - musical director who was the one who really kept the show on the road!

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I'd forgotten how much I enjoyed being Chief Comic Shepherd in the nativity play. I think I was channelling ShadoK, though. All that talk about beer!

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quote:
Originally posted by Stoo:
quote:
Originally posted by Scot:
Click here to read the Nativity Play.

Er... can I register a complaint that Herod doesn't feature in the distinguished cast list?

Quite possibly, it's because he wasn't that distinguished, but any way...

(Yes... I have only just noticed)

You've been busy [Big Grin]

J

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