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Welease Woderwick
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I stayed away from the TV all day and had a day's solid reading with a short interruption for a cycle ride late afternoon - not a royal event to be seen!
Bliss!
[I still can't spell] [ 04. June 2012, 02:29: Message edited by: Welease Woderwick ]
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Piglet
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The reason I'm even later than usual posting on here is I've just been watching the evening showing of the pageant. BBC Canada showed it live in the morning but, it being Sunday I was otherwise occupied. They very kindly showed it again just after Evensong. I thoroughly enjoyed it - like the Royal wedding last year, it was Britain doing what Britain's best at. Felt sorry for the soggy choir.
The down-side was I'd put a pot of soup on to cook and thought that there would be commercial breaks during which I could go and check it ...
D. came into the den about 2½ hours in and said "how's the soup doing?"
... oops ... ![[Hot and Hormonal]](icon_redface.gif)
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I reckon there will be a lot of very wet uniforms drying out today, after the wet pageant and sopping wet soldiers/sailors/whatever all standing to attention in the pouring rain!
I hope the Royals had some thermals under their royal clothes - be a lot of sniffling this morning!
Ah, but it made you proud to be British, didn't it?
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I was hoping for seriously big puddles where there's a lot of bunting because I really wanted reflection shots. I know, I'm not nice.
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Mary LA
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Sino Said posted:
Next instalment of the Anglo-Boer war begins in Durban on 9th June.
Both sides are in flux but this will be a serious test for the English, some of whom haven't been in a head-to-head with South Africa.
Rugby, more brutal than militarised combat. Head-to-head is a perfect description for those thuggy scrums.
Enjoyed watching the stoic queen and washed-out but magnificent flotillas. My elderly neighbour remembered the coronation and how it rained that day.
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quote: Originally posted by Curiosity killed ...: I was hoping for seriously big puddles where there's a lot of bunting because I really wanted reflection shots. I know, I'm not nice.
Haha - hopefully you will get some today. We had puddles, but such low light the photos didn't add up to much.
I took pictures of the telly instead!
Here they are.
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Welease Woderwick
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quote: Originally posted by Mary LA: ...Enjoyed watching the stoic queen and washed-out but magnificent flotillas. My elderly neighbour remembered the coronation and how it rained that day.
Oi, less of the elderly - I remember the coronation!
I am a mature man, not one these young whippersnappers.
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(sheepishly) My neighbour is 75 but can pass for a frisky 49. Apologies, Wodders.
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Welease Woderwick
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Lol - good grief, your neighbour is even older than PeteC!
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Ariel
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quote: Originally posted by Welease Woderwick: Oi, less of the elderly - I remember the coronation!
Which one?
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I had chosen the area outside Tate Modern and arrived at half past ten. I secured a place 4 people back from the front which was fine as I am reasonably tall. It quickly filled up behind so it was necessary to stand in a fixed position for 5 hours waiting and an hour and a bit watching the boats. When it came time to move at last my knees seemed locked into place so it was a bit of an effort.
A lady close by me seemed to be in her 70s and with an illness that gave her a constant tremor in the hands so considering that I am doing a 10k race next weekend, I can hardly complain. Still I am glad that I did not have to go to work today.
I see on the internet that someone from the national republican society has said that not that many people were there and that other events get more, but all I can say is that I am glad I don't have to get home by public transport after those other events.
I have just been out to buy a newspaper, something I have not done for years, and found one with a photograph showing the same scene I was looking at, the millenium bridge, St Paul's, and the City of London school, so I have a nice memento of my day.
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It's been quite a while since I stuck my head round the door here and waved at you all, hasn't it?
Sorry about that.
Still. Hello, everyone.
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quote: Originally posted by Ariel: quote: Originally posted by Welease Woderwick: Oi, less of the elderly - I remember the coronation!
Which one?
This round to Ariel.
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I had a wonderfully festive weekend. We popped up to the little village where my husband's grandmother lives. They were having all sorts of events over the weekend.
We spent quite a bit of time in the pub 'cos it was reeeally cold and fairly wet. There was a lot of wet bunting hanging about the green! We ate hog roast and W.I. cake. We got roped into singing in a scratch choir Sunday morning and evening (Great fun bellowing the Hallelujah chorus!) and watched most of the action on the Thames nice and warm in Grannie's lounge room.
Yay England.
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Sioni Sais
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Was a cricket match planned, only to be rained off? That would make the ultimate English day.
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Eleanor Jane
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No cricket, but a do on the village green with a small dog show (the organiser was pleading on the mic. for people to enter their dogs), coconut shy, a small carousal (sadly too small for me to have a go) and a few stalls. All damp and cold but soldiering on (with regular trips to the pub for the loos and fortifications).
Oh, and a guy hollering some pop songs... I do wish folk would realise that singing is something you need to put some effort into learning how to do, just like you learn to play guitar or drums etc. (Climbs off hobbyhorse)
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Sioni Sais
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There's no point complaining about the low standard and limited participation in village shows, fetes and the like. Everybody knows that Tom will win the prize for racing leeks, his wife will win the best decorate cake award and their daughter will guess the weight of the cake. It's part of the charm of such events. Our cricket team used to demonstrate this too, until we got South Africans in.
btw, I'm sure there's a better alternative to 'enter their dogs'. ![[Biased]](wink.gif)
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Hope and pray Prince Philip gets well soon. ![[Votive]](graemlins/votive.gif)
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Welease Woderwick
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quote: Originally posted by PeteC: quote: Originally posted by Ariel: quote: Originally posted by Welease Woderwick: Oi, less of the elderly - I remember the coronation!
Which one?
This round to Ariel.
Yes, indeed. I acknowledge defeat in this round.
However Pete and I were once discussing Royal Weddings and he remembered seeing one a while ago - he said the bride looked gorgeous and Prince Albert looked so dashing.
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Piglet
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quote: Originally posted by Enigma: Hope and pray Prince Philip gets well soon.
Absolutely - poor old chap. I suppose the up-side for him is he won't have to endure the Pop Concert ...
I'm still debating with myself whether I thought the BBC's coverage was as bad as they're saying in the Telegraph. I accept it isn't the same without Tom Fleming, just as Wimbledon isn't the same without Dan Maskell, but as they're both dead, we can't really blame Auntie for that.
Because I've been on the other side of the Pond for nearly 10 years, I still assume that the worst of the BBC is going to be better than the best of anything I can get over here. For the most part that's probably still true, but they did seem to be aiming for the lowest common denominator, and I wasn't impressed by the two indoors (whoever they were) - they seemed a bit clueless.
As for the one who referred to the Queen as "Her Royal Highness" ... words fail me.
Is there still a block at the Tower? ![[Devil]](graemlins/devil.gif) [ 05. June 2012, 02:09: Message edited by: piglet ]
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The BBC coverage of the River Pageant was worse than awful. It was utterly inept, crass, inaccurate and naff. The presenters had not done their homework, and didn't actually sound as though they cared. I know it was a Bank Holiday and they probably didn't want to have to work, but still.....I bet they were paid extra and given TOIL to be there. There is no excuse for such slipshod and embarassing broadcasting.
As someone said, the Pageant Master had taken 2 and 1/2 years to pull it all together. The BBC sounded as though they'd pulled their bit of it together in the pub the night before on the back of a beer mat.
In other news...it's cold and overcast here today. Not quite raining...yet...
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Welease Woderwick
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Erm, are you saying you didn't think much of it, then?
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quote: Originally posted by St Everild: The BBC coverage of the River Pageant was worse than awful.
The Pageant Master had taken 2½ years to plan it, and all the Beeb did was show the same boats over and over again. Too many reporters at too many camera positions. One commentator and a camera at each of the start, finish and somewhere along the way would have been better, at least then they'd have had to show more than a few boats. A case of too many cooks.
However having just seen the balcony appearence and fly past flicking between channels, if the BBC coverage was poor then ITV was dire.
quote: piglet: I still assume that the worst of the BBC is going to be better than the best of anything I can get over here.
The worst of the BBC is still better than anyone else does over here too.
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I never realized what an earworm Land of Hope and Glory could be. As if that wasn't enough, at a certain point it devolves into the theme tune from "It Aint Half Hot Mum" and a twangly sitar bit before starting all over again.*
Glad they didn't have to cancel the flypast - everything seemed to go well today.
*If you remember this you are old enough to remember the last Jubilee.
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Sioni Sais
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quote: Originally posted by Ariel: I never realized what an earworm Land of Hope and Glory could be. As if that wasn't enough, at a certain point it devolves into the theme tune from "It Aint Half Hot Mum" and a twangly sitar bit before starting all over again.*
Glad they didn't have to cancel the flypast - everything seemed to go well today.
*If you remember this you are old enough to remember the last Jubilee.
I'm not sure how appropriate Land of Hope and Glory is. It was used as an anthem for England at the Commonwealth Games (Jerusalem is now used there and before every day's play at England's home cricket matches) while GSTQ is used for England's rugby union and football teams.
It's also the official anthem of the Conservative Party, while Jerusalem is sung at conferences of the Labour Party (and the W.I.)
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quote: Originally posted by Sioni Sais: Was a cricket match planned, only to be rained off? That would make the ultimate English day.
Our match against VRA in Amsterdam was rained off - does that count?
AG
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Piglet
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quote: Originally posted by Balaam: ... The worst of the BBC is still better than anyone else does over here too.
I'm not so sure any more. All the Queen's Horses, ITV's coverage of the Jubilee Pageant knocked the Beeb's efforts on Sunday into a cocked hat.
What did everyone think of the Service of Thanksgiving? My tuppence-worth:
Liturgy: mostly good; lessons should have been from the Authorised Version.
Choral singing: v. good (almost as good as the Royal Wedding from the Abbey). Pity they left out the trumpet obbligato bit in the Old Hundredth, and their descant to Cwm Rhondda wasn't a patch on James O'Donnell's one.
New anthem: I can't believe it's not Rutter. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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Nicodemia
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Could everyone please put their wet bunting away now.
It won't dry left hanging, you know!
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Welease Woderwick
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Surely the Anglicans have to leave theirs up for at least the Octave!
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Ariel
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If you go out early when nobody else is around, the plastic bunting actually makes quite a clatter flapping in the breeze. I never realized how noisy it was.
Sorry Piglet, I'm afraid once the service got going I turned the TV off and went shopping. Superficial, perhaps, but I'd had the TV on for a while already to enjoy the anticipation and see who was arriving, and it was the fourth day of Jubilee in a row. It's all downhill from here now with a succession of sporting fixtures until September.
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quote: Originally posted by piglet: What did everyone think of the Service of Thanksgiving? My tuppence-worth:
Liturgy: mostly good; lessons should have been from the Authorised Version.
Choral singing: v. good (almost as good as the Royal Wedding from the Abbey). Pity they left out the trumpet obbligato bit in the Old Hundredth, and their descant to Cwm Rhondda wasn't a patch on James O'Donnell's one.
New anthem: I can't believe it's not Rutter.
Agree with most of above (definitely missed that obbligato!), although I was happy with the Bible version used (was it NRSV?) One point was that the language in the prayers of intercession varied between "trad." and "modern" - a bit bumpy.
I thought ++Rowan was excellent - not too sycophantic and he actually said something worth saying. Not that anyone will take any notice, sadly. The "Daily Mail" hated the sermon, so he probably got it right.
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quote: Originally posted by Welease Woderwick: Surely the Anglicans have to leave theirs up for at least the Octave!
Mrs A was indignant about the skimpy quality of most of the bunting she's seen: smaller flags, she says, and further apart than e.g. in the glory days of '77. Hadn't noticed this myself but has anyone else?
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We had bunting outside our church: when we unpacked it we discovered that the Union Flag motifs were only printed on one side, the other sides were blank. Not much good as it fluttered in the wind ...
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Sioni Sais
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The store Mrs Sioni works at had fabric with Union Flags on, but that, like the vast majority of fabric was only printed on one side too. It was the very devil to cut correctly as the flags weren't lined up near the edge!
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Piglet
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BT - I agree that the switching about from Cranmer's matchless prose to modern stuff was v. lumpy and a Bad Thing.
D's regular Wednesday organ recital today had a nice royal feel to it: Renaissance dances by Susato (as in The Six Wives of Henry VIII) and by Henry himself (Pastime with good company), French-stuffing music (the Agincourt Hymn ), Vaughan Williams' variations on Greensleeves and Master Tallis's Testament by Howells among other things.
All good stuff. ![[Yipee]](graemlins/spin.gif) [ 07. June 2012, 02:11: Message edited by: piglet ]
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Welease Woderwick
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We think the monsoon has officially arrived though it is not announced in the morning paper, hopefully it will be confirmed tomorrow morning. There was a LOT of rain overnight and the temperature dropped alarmingly - I will be getting a blanket out tonight.
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Yes, we're just waiting for the monsoon here too, according to Radio 4. It will be accompanied by 70 mph winds and probably the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse.
I booked this week off but guess this is another day that isn't really suited to going off for a summer's day out. Are we getting the tail end of Beryl? I thought that had been and gone.
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Welease Woderwick
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I rather think you're getting the tail end of Brenda!
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quote: Originally posted by Welease Woderwick: I rather think you're getting the tail end of Brenda!
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We once had a pet snail called Brenda ...
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...red white and blue shell?
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quote: Originally posted by Ariel: Yes, we're just waiting for the monsoon here too, according to Radio 4. It will be accompanied by 70 mph winds and probably the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse.
Sure, and my wife is face-painting for the Diocese all day and tomorrow at the Suffolk Show. She will be cold (although, just as I write, the sun has actually emerged for a moment!)
(You will realise from the comment above that my wife is not a True Baptist but Dangerously Ecumenical - or, as she prefers to describe herself, a spiritual mongrel).
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quote: Originally posted by Balaam: ...red white and blue shell?
Just for you Balaam ...
RWB Snail :0)
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Welease Woderwick
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Aha! The announcement has been made - Monsoon has set in over southern and central Kerala - it has been a wet day - which is VERY GOOD! We love the rain.
My maths student didn't come to me all last academic year and still did very well at exam time but now he is in Xth standard, with the big exams in March, he is coming back to me again to get a bit more confidence, which is fun. Sadly the book I want to use as a guide isn't available yet but I hope to get a copy next week - the textbook his [English medium] school uses is NOT well-written. He comes from a lovely family, quite close neighbours of ours.
I made a classic error with him today and failed to read one of the questions in his coursebook properly so worked out quite a complex equation and then found the answer was something completely different so reread the question - DUH!! I told him to learn from that and always read the question thoroughly. The question they asked was actually quite simple.
Will he listen?
Probably not but he might.
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I'm sick of England now - can someone assure me it gets better? The last two times I've visted it's been in July/ August and the weather was generally warm and pleasant. Tell me I can look forward to that?
I'm finding it quite depressing being back in winter clothing, putting the heater on, having a lap rug on the couch etc.
And it's so confusing! The roses are blooming, the days are long, but the weather is like winter in Auckland, New Zealand! (tears hair and gnashes teeth)
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Come to Canada where we often get 4 seasons of weather in a twenty-four hour period.
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