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Congrats Harmony Hope. ![[Smile]](smile.gif) Best wishes for the new endeavor!
![[Votive]](graemlins/votive.gif) Jade Constable and Laxton Superba.
Thanks for prayers for me.
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Thank you everyone. I'm hoping to go to Cuddesdon - had a conditional place there 3 years' ago and an interview mid January. That would mean starting in September next year!
I am holding everyone on here in my prayers - those of us just starting out or those of us further along the way... my God walk with you all on your journeys.
Please do PM me if I can give any help or support to anyone.
with prayers
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Just to wish everyone very happy Christmas!
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Especially Happy New Year to those who are home from college and trying to get that essay / portfolio / report done....
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Happy new year!
geroff - does that mean I should start trying? I'm planning on working again from wednesday
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Just wondering if anyone at Cuddesdon has any info on local schools and 6th form colleges please?
many thanks
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The nearest secondary school to RCC is Wheatley Park
Primaries are Garsington and Wheatley
I don't have children so am not very familiar with the relative benefits of the options- I seem to recall that there was a school bus to Garsington primary but not Wheatley primary. There was a bus to Wheatley Park secondary. ( I left in 2010 so info may be out of date)
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Originally posted by harmony hope:
Thank you everyone. I'm hoping to go to Cuddesdon - had a conditional place there 3 years' ago and an interview mid January. That would mean starting in September next year!
I am holding everyone on here in my prayers - those of us just starting out or those of us further along the way... my God walk with you all on your journeys.
Please do PM me if I can give any help or support to anyone.
with prayers
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Originally posted by Purple Butterfly:
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Originally posted by harmony hope:
Thank you everyone. I'm hoping to go to Cuddesdon - had a conditional place there 3 years' ago and an interview mid January. That would mean starting in September next year!
I am holding everyone on here in my prayers - those of us just starting out or those of us further along the way... my God walk with you all on your journeys.
Please do PM me if I can give any help or support to anyone.
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OOPS!! ![[Hot and Hormonal]](icon_redface.gif) Newbie alert!
When is your interview HH?
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Hi Rosa - thanks very much for the info which is really useful.
Purple butterfly - my interview's on Wednesday. Nice to see you here!
Evensong - how is it going now?
Jenn - hope the studying is going well!
Jade Constable - how is it going for you?
Laxton - how is your journey going?
For us all as we journey.
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GOod luck HH with the interview.
My own vocational journey continues. AFter 18 months unemployed, this time last year I applied for and was offered a job as a verger and got it and started in March. It ticks many of the vocational boxes -- basically I'm paid to hang around church and do stuff -- though not all of them (preaching for example). I think it will be the right place for a while at least.
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Hello Carys - so glad you're doing work you enjoy and prayers for you as your journey continues.
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Welcome Purple Butterfly!
Carys:
Congrats on the verger job!
I applied for such a job two or three times but never got an interview. ![[Frown]](frown.gif)
On the Evensong vocational front - I asked for a year off and they said no.
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For all you ministry students out there this is a hilarious website with short vid clips about life as a ministry student. I believe he is a Methodist in the USA.
Everyday I'm Pastoring
And this little beauty is my current favourite. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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On the Evensong vocational front - I asked for a year off and they said no.
That does it. There is officially a bead on my rosary with your name on it.
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Shall I fear to tread here? I started a thread on postulancy. Evensong suggested coming here. I'm on the other side of what I read in this topic. Shall be assessing as part of a committee, people who have put forward as wanting diocesan support for pursuit of holy orders. Not an employment committee, but a step prior to that.
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Congrats Carys and glad Cuddesdon went well for you HH. In my prayers Evensong
Ordination stuff is on hold while I try and cope with uni stuff, but I am seeing the DDO in a couple of weeks. I still think ordination is where God wants me to be, it's the how I'm not 100% on.
I would be interested in others' experience UK Anglican theological colleges. I am AffCath Anglo-Catholic, liberal on the Dead Horses but not as liberal as other people on everything else - not opposed to PSA for instance, just not that it's the only possible Atonement theory. The chaplain at uni (who went to Cranmer) says Cuddesdon or Mirfield would be the best fit, Westcott House probably too liberal for me. Does this sound about right? Mirfield appeals more just in terms of location, personally.
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Niminypiminy
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Jade, for you on your discernment journey
And Evensong, prayers for you. That sounds really tough.
HH hope your interview went well!
I have two essays to write for the DDO, both of which should have been sent off already, and I've been staring at the computer screen feeling completely blocked about both of them. One is the first draft of my written statement on mission and evangelism for the BAP, and I suspect that that's what is making it so difficult for me to get any words out.
I have a date to see the bishop, and I need to write and arrange to go to the open day of the regional ministerial training course (if Iir's a yes I will train part time). It all feels very serious and real, and more than a bit scary!
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Jade Constable wrote
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I am AffCath Anglo-Catholic, liberal on the Dead Horses but not as liberal as other people on everything else
What does 'everything else' mean? Is this about divorce and gay people in active relationships or more to do with doctrine and theology?
I think an AffCath Anglo-catholic would feel very at home in terms of worship and spirituality at Westcott; it might be a good base to explore other issues. Westcott ordinands are quite diverse in their understanding of doctrine for example.
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Pomona
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Originally posted by aig:
Jade Constable wrote
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I am AffCath Anglo-Catholic, liberal on the Dead Horses but not as liberal as other people on everything else
What does 'everything else' mean? Is this about divorce and gay people in active relationships or more to do with doctrine and theology?
I think an AffCath Anglo-catholic would feel very at home in terms of worship and spirituality at Westcott; it might be a good base to explore other issues. Westcott ordinands are quite diverse in their understanding of doctrine for example.
Sorry - regarding doctrine and theology. I understood divorce etc to be dead horses too. And thank you.
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Don't rule out St Stephen's House. It's a far broader place than the naysayers would have you believe.
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Well I have been denied a maintenance grant by the Student Loans Company (because I apparently didn't earn enough to qualify as self-supporting), so I can't afford to stay at uni and so can't stay with the support of my church/uni chaplaincy/DDO. I thought I was in Northampton for a reason
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Man that sucks Jade.
that something comes through for you.
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Originally posted by Jade Constable:
The chaplain at uni (who went to Cranmer) says Cuddesdon or Mirfield would be the best fit, Westcott House probably too liberal for me. Does this sound about right? Mirfield appeals more just in terms of location, personally.
I know the Community at Mirfield well, and the place (if you can cope with the Pennine drizzle) is excellent. I don't know much about the College per se, except that I have heard some people don't rate it much academically. I would have thought that is less important as general formation and especially the solid foundation you would get in liturgy and spirituality. It is definitely Catholic in ethos but in no way precious and there are a number of evangelically-inclined students. The benefit of living alongside a dedicated monastic community must be substantial.
[PS. Sorry Jade, I have just seen your other post. I really hope and pray some finance will be forthcoming... that is just too bad.]
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Jade that is an absolute tragedy. These events can make more sense looking back (as I found from a similar situation) but that is zero comfort at the time. Praying for you. I assume you've already used student loans? and a chat with the chaplain may provide contacts (I know a few churches near me who provide grants for poor students).
As for me, the Southwark discernment process divides into two parts: just had several sessions with the vocations advisor, who did the initial discernment bit, now he's sent his report to the DDO who will do the formal/ pre BAP bit. So waiting for her email, bit excited, one eye slightly on clock (would be v v handy for job reasons to go into training, if successful, this September. Making good progress so far..) Guess only thing to do in meantime is keep ploughing down the reading list..
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Jade if you are at University at the moment have you been to the Student Union/your tutor/ Student Support services at Registry (or whatever it is called at your Uni) for help with sorting out the loan? I don't know what your circumstances are(whether you are currently on an undergraduate degree course or some other kind of course, whether you have already had a student loan) but nowadays all universities have people who specialise in helping students through the funding and finance maze, as far as they can.
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Originally posted by Niminypiminy:
Jade if you are at University at the moment have you been to the Student Union/your tutor/ Student Support services at Registry (or whatever it is called at your Uni) for help with sorting out the loan? I don't know what your circumstances are(whether you are currently on an undergraduate degree course or some other kind of course, whether you have already had a student loan) but nowadays all universities have people who specialise in helping students through the funding and finance maze, as far as they can.
I already have done all of that, it is purely down to SLC saying I am ineligible for any maintenance grant.
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And this little beauty is my current favourite.
Strangely, it was the one I most identified with, too. ![[Paranoid]](graemlins/paranoid.gif)
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Originally posted by Angloid:
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Originally posted by Jade Constable:
The chaplain at uni (who went to Cranmer) says Cuddesdon or Mirfield would be the best fit, Westcott House probably too liberal for me. Does this sound about right? Mirfield appeals more just in terms of location, personally.
I know the Community at Mirfield well, and the place (if you can cope with the Pennine drizzle) is excellent. I don't know much about the College per se, except that I have heard some people don't rate it much academically. I would have thought that is less important as general formation and especially the solid foundation you would get in liturgy and spirituality. It is definitely Catholic in ethos but in no way precious and there are a number of evangelically-inclined students. The benefit of living alongside a dedicated monastic community must be substantial.
[PS. Sorry Jade, I have just seen your other post. I really hope and pray some finance will be forthcoming... that is just too bad.]
My own priest went to Mirfield so I have heard good things about it. I actually know that part of the country very well - and would agree re academics v general formation.
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I'm filling in a registration form for a Dioscesan Panel and tripped over a sticking point.
The Question asks:
Briefly describe yourself and your temperament, including your gifts and preferences, strengths and weaknesses.
But what, in this context, do preferences refer to?
Churchmanship perhaps?
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Is it more likely to be about things like: like working in groups; like clear structures and deadlines; like to work alone; tend to be quiet in new situations etc?
That was the sort of thing I wrote for this question. I didn't mention anything to do with church here.
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That would make sense, I must be being more dense than usual tonight!
Thanks aig.
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Churchmanship might be one but consider:
- Rural, Suburban or Urban
- Children/family, youth/student, professional/singles, retired/elderly etc
- Parish, gathered, chaplaincy (Hospital, Higher Education or Workplace)
- mission or maintenance priority
- stable or transient population
- any specialism such as interfaith, ecumenical, special needs, multi-cultural, immigrant.
- team, group, sole incumbent
- geographical location (would you feel happy accepting a church in an area of the country you are unfamilliar with?)
Now you do not have to pick one from each but if one of those is making your heart skip then I would suggest you may have a preference for it.
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And that's something else to mull over.
Cheers Jengie
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Had a wonderful chat with my boss the other day.
He said the reason I'm struggling so much with being a "traditional priest" is that I'm more of a prophet than anything else.
He said I think outside the box, and when I do think inside the box I notice things that nobody else notices.
How nice is that? Maybe there is hope for me after all.
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Evensong - lovely to hear that. Hope you are feeling happier now .
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It's strange, isn't it. When you are in the first part of the discernment process you assume once you are through bap it'll all be plain sailing. Why I assumed this I have no idea, but I sort of did. And now I'm at college and it's great, but also hugely hard. I'm more convinced than ever about my vocation, but I'm also aware of how difficult this path is. Prayers for you, Evensong, and for others who are realising the pain of the calling as well as the joy.
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Thanks HH. Hope things are going well with you
Jenn. You are exactly right. The training itself presents very significant challenges. . .
My husband flipped out tonight . Said he felt he was losing me.. .
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(((Evensong & Mr E)))
Hang on in there.
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Hugs Evensong. It's such a demanding time for us and our families often get a rough deal. ****ing for you.
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I'm signing off for Lent, trying to find some time for reflection and reading...but you are all in my prayers and with all my best wishes.
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I'm signing off for Lent, trying to find some time for reflection and reading...but you are all in my prayers and with all my best wishes.
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Hello all. Just popping in to say: I have a provisional BAP date.
My word, there's a lot of paperwork!
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Masha - exciting and scary! When will it be?
I'm not looking forward to The Paperwork when my time comes.
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