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E Tiddy
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Hello all!
I'm returning afer a break of a couple of years This time I've got a BAP booked for the beginning of May and I'm currently working on my registration form. It's taken about 13 years for me to get to this point!Anyway, I've got a place at cranmer Hall if I'm recommended for training
Best wishes to everyone on this journey. Hopefully I'll see you around. x
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Percy B
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I was involved in a weekend for those interested in vocations and found it very helpful to be with others thinking. Considering vocation can be quite a lonely venture. I do recommend this sort of thing.
Not just for what one can get from them, but what can share and give too.
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E Tiddy
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I've got to complete my BAP paperwork by the end of the week. Trouble is it's making me feel sick just thinking about it. I've waiting so long to get to this point and don't know what to write.
Your prayers would be appreciated. Thank you.
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for you E Tiddy.
I'm still dragging my heels. The birth of our first child in April and our new Priest-in-Charge not starting until June seem like very reasonable excuses for not doing anything about the nagging feelings I keep experiencing. Those excuses will always be there, though, won't they... ![[Confused]](confused.gif)
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quote: Originally posted by Percy B: I was involved in a weekend for those interested in vocations and found it very helpful to be with others thinking. Considering vocation can be quite a lonely venture. I do recommend this sort of thing.
Not just for what one can get from them, but what can share and give too.
Was that CPAS? While CPAS are essentially an evangelistic-based organization, from what I remember of my experience on their vocation weekend, it could be very helpful for anyone of any churchmanship. At any stage of the process, too. At the beginning of the discernment process, just before selection/diocesan selection etc. Like you, I'd recommend these weekends.
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uncletoby
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quote: Originally posted by E Tiddy: I've got to complete my BAP paperwork by the end of the week. Trouble is it's making me feel sick just thinking about it.
I had to do mine just before Christmas. In the end the only way I could get it done was work at it until about 3.30 in the morning! Too many distractions in the daytime. ![[Votive]](graemlins/votive.gif)
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uncletoby
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quote: Originally posted by leo: quote: Originally posted by Thurible: Don't rule out St Stephen's House. It's a far broader place than the naysayers would have you believe.
Thurible
They have produced some excellent priests over the year, including women priests.
I'd be interested to hear more about this. I'm trying to work out where I should train at the moment. I suppose I am a liberalish Anglo-Catholic - I'm looking at St Mellitus because staying in London would make sense for family reasons, and I have Westcott in mind as a plan B. But I've started wondering if I have made a mistake by not considering St Stephen's House. I'd like to know what others think about it.
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Thurible
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Essentially, it's a broad place in a Catholic context.
So, daily Mass and offices with Benediction weekly, and full Catholic privileges.
The student body ranges from Romanist, breviary-wielding members of the Pusey Guild to open evangelicals who have their reservations about the House's theology but value the 'sense of holiness'. Those for and against female ordination work well together and happily, and attend each other's ordinations and the like, and become lifelong friends.
You should definitely have a look.
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uncletoby
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Thanks Thurible.
quote: Originally posted by Thurible: So, daily Mass and offices with Benediction weekly, and full Catholic privileges.
Out of interest, do they use the Roman Rite?
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aig
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Have you been to look at Westcott? It is a good place for lots of reasons, not least its diverse and inclusive community.
I think the problem for female ordinands at St Stephen's House is formation in a setting where some of the staff and some of the ordinands don't think they (the women) can be priests. Theological college is tough enough without that sort of baggage.
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Thurible
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quote: Originally posted by uncletoby: Thanks Thurible.
quote: Originally posted by Thurible: So, daily Mass and offices with Benediction weekly, and full Catholic privileges.
Out of interest, do they use the Roman Rite?
Not for college services - other than for borrowing propers, on occasion. It is often used for the Saturday Mass, but that is at the celebrant's discretion. There's also a (half-?) termly BCP Mass. It's probably reasonable to point out that, whilst the Offices are compulsory, Mass isn't - other than on Sundays and for evening Solemnities. Things may have changed but on one day a week, there are two Eucharists celebrated - one by a woman, and one by a man. (A significant minority went to both.)
In terms of offices, it's CW in the morning and BCP in the evening - always.
There is now an ordained woman on the staff and there really is a sense of cohesion, despite views on OoW. Tied to this, there is a real sense that one's views are to be respected whatever they are - unlike the impression one gets of "more inclusive" places, which might actually be significantly less diverse.
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leo
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Interesting. Mirfield makes mas compulsory 6/7 days and one of the staff is a woman (our former curate) and that has created tensions for some students when she is presiding.
I always thought Mirfield was more 'liberal' than The House.
The House tends to offer better placements because Oxford has more variety in places to go than West Yorkshire.
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uncletoby
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Thanks all of you, this is very helpful indeed. I've provisionally booked a visit to St Stephen's House in May.
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Thurible
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quote: Originally posted by leo: I always thought Mirfield was more 'liberal' than The House.
The House has always been the most "trad-friendly". That hasn't meant it is "lib-unfriendly". (Whereas I think there are very few 'trads' who would feel welcomed at, say, Westcott.)
It's the fact that the 'trad' can happily coalesce with 'lib' that is Staggers' strength.
And, uncletoby, I'm pleased you'll have a look round. Prayers as you discern where the Lord wants you.
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quote: Originally posted by leo: Interesting. Mirfield makes mas compulsory 6/7 days and one of the staff is a woman (our former curate) and that has created tensions for some students when she is presiding.
Two now I believe. I stayed with the Community a couple of weeks ago and was impressed by the variety of the student body. I know it includes a number of evangelicals. It seems very family-friendly, too: there was one father (student's partner, presumably, as opposed to Father) whose 6-ish son sat with him throughout mass and evensong without a twitch or a fidget. I would have thought the only sort of placement parish rare in the Mirfield area compared to Oxford would be traditional rural villages. There is everything else from inner city to suburban to small towns.
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In our corner of the world we have had four recent imports from St Stephens.
Very high church (not my tradition, I'm MOTR) but all of them are lovely.
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quote: Originally posted by Angloid: I would have thought the only sort of placement parish rare in the Mirfield area compared to Oxford would be traditional rural villages. There is everything else from inner city to suburban to small towns.
The House is able to offer industrial chaplaincy placements in more abundance that Mirfield because most traditional industry has died out in W. Yorks
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Thurible
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Industry in Oxford? Well, we've got a bit left, I suppose.
In my time, there were placements in: college chapels parish churches hospitals prisons schools homeless shelters
I can't think of any in an industrial setting but that doesn't mean there never are.
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Hi all, Just thiought I would pop in to say that my parish priest has now refered me to the diocesan vocaations time and hopefully I will find out who my vocations advisor will be in the next few weeks. It's taken a long time getting this point and suddenly it's all starting to seem very real and frigthing. ![[Help]](graemlins/help.gif)
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Well done Orinoco, I hope that you hear soon and that you have a fruitful relationship with your vocations advisors.
I'm still chuntering on, hoping to re-BAP next year. Just found out that a friend is about to start along the path too so we can hopefully bounce ideas off each other.
for everyone, it's been a bit quiet on this thread recently, how are you all getting on?
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Things are going well for me right now. I'll be graduating with my M.Div in May and I was approved just last week by my community's superior general to profess final vows. (See explanation of our stages that I wrote earlier on this thread.) It's a nunc pro tunc approval, as I haven't yet been in temporary vows for three years (the minimum before they can become permanent). We'll celebrate my perpetual profession in early September and then I'll be ordained deacon the next day. Priesthood will follow Easter Saturday 2014.
Right now, I'm still awaiting word as to where I'll be assigned. It'll probably be one of our parishes, but could be campus ministry at one of our schools. Wherever it is, I'll report on July 1st, so the people there will be able to see me go from seminarian through deacon to priest within a year. They've had some initial conversations with me about what I'm interested in doing, and I've got another meeting booked for a couple of weeks time where I'm hoping to hear something about what they're thinking. The decision will be made at our provincial council meeting at the end of April.
It's an odd kind of waiting: not anxious, but a little restless. I've come to a point of trust where I'm not anxious about a bad decision being made; but I'm getting sufficiently excited about next year that I am feeling somewhat restless about not knowing where I'll be spending it.
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Masha
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Hello again,
Just realised I ignored a question upthread - sorry! I plead paperwork as an excuse.
But...it's all in!
I have never seen so much admin and never described myself so many times but it's done. Woo hoo. I bought a packet of Veggie Percy Pigs to celebrate. Living it up...
I'm going at the end of May so let's see how I get on. I'll let you know!
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orinocco
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I now have a date for meeting with my vocations advisor. Does anyboby know what questions they are likely to ask?
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Ceannaideach
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For your first meeting, most likely questions to get to know you a little better and to get to know your faith and your sense of calling.
It can seem terrifying to contemplate, but just relax, the vocations advisor is there to help you discern what God may be calling you to do.
In other news I've been recommended for Lay Reader training as a result of my diocesan panel interview. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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Masha
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As Ceannaideach said, they want to get to know you.
They might also ask 'Why?'
As in, why do you feel this is right? Why this particular expression of ministry? That sort of thing. But I suppose that might depend on the process. I only saw a vocations adviser once and then was referred to the DDO because that seems to be how it works here! I've heard of people doing a lot of work woth advisers elsewhere in the country so...
Hope it goes well for you. I've found the process thus far to be really good and enjoyable. Except the paperwork.
Well done Ceannaideach! That's very exciting. A friend of mine is training to be a Reader and she is loving it.
As for my process and impending BAP:
WAAAAAAHHH!
Ahem.
That is all. [ 06. April 2013, 19:39: Message edited by: Masha ]
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quote: Originally posted by orinocco: I now have a date for meeting with my vocations advisor. Does anyboby know what questions they are likely to ask?
I came from a big diocese where the vocations advisors did a lot of the early work with often quite vague vocations. I think I saw mine about 4 times over a year and then I was passed onto the DDO. From memory the only question she asked at the first interviews was 'would you like tea?' and then all she had to say was 'tell me your story' and the hour was gone! There was some stuff about data protection and the process but that was it.
It is very scarey putting your head above the parapet but all the VA and DDOs I've come across are genuinely trying to help discern a vocation which may be to reader ministry or ordained ministry or something else.
Unless your story is one like this of course where details have been only slightly changed:
You have recently been converted to Christianity and during the recent interegnum used every opportunity to get your mitts on the keys of the vicarage, seeing off the church wardens, PCC, the retired clergy and the flower guild who have been part of the leadership team for years. Now you now want that calling to leadership confirmed by the national church so that you can get back at the new priest in post who has to the great relief of all concerned shown you the door.
You can tell this is an exageration as no one gets past the flower guild who all have the archdeacon/bishop/dioceasen enforcers on speed dial as they knew them when the were young Kenneth/Sue/Monty in Sunday School.
I hope the interview goes well. [ 08. April 2013, 08:53: Message edited by: Poppy ]
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aig
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This thread is a bit quiet at the moment. Does this mean that all shippies in the discernment process are deeply introverted, paranoid or technophobes? Or are we all just too busy to post?
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Laxton's Superba
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Hello aig I am plodding on waiting to re-BAP next year. Just keeping my hand in with the DDO and being indispensable in the parish, ha ha ha.
How is everyone else? for us all
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quote: Originally posted by Ceannaideach:
In other news I've been recommended for Lay Reader training as a result of my diocesan panel interview.
I have been a lay reader or lector in two different RC parishes for several years. I really enjoy it.
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quote: Originally posted by Sir Kevin: quote: Originally posted by Ceannaideach:
In other news I've been recommended for Lay Reader training as a result of my diocesan panel interview.
I have been a lay reader or lector in two different RC parishes for several years. I really enjoy it.
I have been fortunate enough to be able to do this at a couple of parishes in the past as well as my current one and i too really enjoy being able to exercise this ministry.
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quote: Originally posted by aig: This thread is a bit quiet at the moment. Does this mean that all shippies in the discernment process are deeply introverted, paranoid or technophobes? Or are we all just too busy to post?
I'm veering between attempting to practise the virtue of patience and being relieved that I haven't heard from the Bishop in almost a year!
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I am entering the last term at college meltdown - due to essays, dissertation(which would be OK) - but then there are forms for many, many people, and houses and meetings with incumbents. I trust at some point it may slow down a bit?
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I have not posted on here for a while, and wonder if I am still welcome on this thread (tell me if I am not, and I will start another one!) but at the root of my situation is a struggling with a deep sense of calling. So I think I first posted on this thread in 2006 when I started the discernment process. Others on this thread have supported me through to BAP, the struggles of college and the pre-ordination excitment. Now towards the end of my curacy I am looking for a "proper job". I have discovered that this is a very difficult thing to talk about. There are now people with whom I have active pastoral relationships who would be hurt if they heard that I was looking to move on, and yet the training post is time limited so I have to move on by a certain time. I have looked at and considered lots of options, and now am at a stage where I am preparing for my first interview. To get to this point requires a huge investment of time and energy - carefully reading profiles, trying to understand parishes, and decyphering what sort of person they are looking for. Obviously it is a very self reflecive exercise too, and ultimately is about being part of a group of people discerning the will of God. Like many, I do not much enjoy competitive interview situations, and am troubled by the fact that this is the first time in the process of ministerial discernment that what I believe to be a sense of calling to a particular role can only be affirmed if others are to be told that they are not considered to have such a call. This is where all this vocations stuff meets the hard reality of pounds and pence. I have been moved to write this on discovering that I will be interviewing alongside 5 others next week. I had hoped that I might be one of 4 at the most and if I was lucky 3 even, and am now wondering how I will cope with the likely outcome of having to come to terms with accepting that what I thought was a sense of calling was wrong, potentially several times over before the next chapter of ministry becomes clear for me. Do please pray for me.
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We will.
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Does it help to think of it as group discernment rather than competitive interview?
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quote: Originally posted by Codepoet: I have been moved to write this on discovering that I will be interviewing alongside 5 others next week. I had hoped that I might be one of 4 at the most and if I was lucky 3 even, Do please pray for me.
Does this mean you will be actually sitting alongside others or will you be touring the parish whilst one other is being interviewed and another one is hiding in the church office?
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quote: Originally posted by geroff: quote: Originally posted by Codepoet: I have been moved to write this on discovering that I will be interviewing alongside 5 others next week. I had hoped that I might be one of 4 at the most and if I was lucky 3 even, Do please pray for me.
Does this mean you will be actually sitting alongside others or will you be touring the parish whilst one other is being interviewed and another one is hiding in the church office?
My point is there are 5 other candidates. Obviously interviews are seperate, as are parish tours I believe. However the (in)famous "death by quiche" is everyone in together. There is also an (inappropriate in my opinion) involvment of partners. I understand that my partner might want to be involved in looking around the parish (or at least the house) - as it is she is working that day and trusts me to make important decisions, however I do not understand why the church wardens' partners and the selectors' partners need to meet the candidates. I am not looking forward to a room full of around 25 people all trying to find out if I will support their personal religious fetish or not. "Are you married? Is your wife good at children's work? Will you keep the parish pantomine going? Can you play guitar? etc etc"
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Don't be afraid Codepoet. Trust in the God we pray to, and be yourself. It wouldn't matter if there was one other candidate or 21, if God wants you there the door will be opened. Another door will open if this one doesn't. The Holy Spirit will guide you. Hold on tight and don't be daunted.
The people there will be your parishioners, potentially. Treat them as you naturally would, engage with them, love them. Everything else is of lesser importance.
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I am feeling more and more called to this, but having a mental health setback. My body is being an arse. Prayers appreciated.
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Prayers for you, Jade Constable, for God to give you the peace that passes all understanding. ![[Votive]](graemlins/votive.gif)
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My only experience is from the other side of the parish interview situation and I've only been involved twice. The first was similar to how you describe, Codepoet, but without the partners thing. However it wasn't simply wardens and the parish reps but the entire PCC at the 'trial by quiche'! We couldn't imagine a scenario where we didn't at least lay eyes on our potential new shepherd before he or she was presented to us by the Bishop. The other occasion was one where my involvement was as part of one of a number of interview panels set up in various locations across a group of parishes. That event was more of a 'challenge Anneka' affair with the various candidates navigating themselves around a rural area armed only with a map and a timetable of which church or village hall to be in at any set time. Then everyone, and I do mean everyone, sat down to lunch in an old estate school house! Both occasions had moments of pure surrealism but I'm confident that God put the right person in the job despite our best man made efforts to confound His plans for both the person and the parish involved. Please try not to stress too much. It's rather like a marriage, it has to suit both partners so be yourself, and daft as this may sound, try not to take any of it too personally. All will be well.
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I know very little about BAPS (save when filled with cheese and pickle!) and VAs etc. but I'd like to say that I pop in on this thread from time to time to read where you are up to, and to throw a little prayer upwards for you all. Before coming to France I was a LLM (the Oxford diocese name for a lay reader) but I've kind of lost my way a bit now. But for you all, and somehow especially for Codepoet, I put you firmly in God's hands.
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I don't see how not getting this parish is a challenge to your sense of call or the other candidates sense of call codepoet.
I'd see it rather as a challenge of navigating the menagerie that is job interviews.
Or are you concerned that you're not called to parish ministry?
quote: Originally posted by Codepoet: I am not looking forward to a room full of around 25 people all trying to find out if I will support their personal religious fetish or not. "Are you married? Is your wife good at children's work? Will you keep the parish pantomine going? Can you play guitar? etc etc"
Lord have mercy neither would I.
Be yourself. Be firm. There's only two types of people in the world after all: clergy that try and change their parishioners and parishioners that try and change their clergy.
I had an interesting chat with an experienced clergyperson a few nights ago that was asked by his bishop to take over an inner city parish that had only 14 ppl remaining in it. The parish has grown and is now doing well. I asked him how and why.
He said the secret to successful ministry in a particular place is when the leadership style of the clergyperson gels well with the leadership style of the parish.
And we're all different of course. Neither good nor bad - just different. And I would hope the selection process for clergy in parishes would reflect that.
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On a slightly different subject,
Prayers for those now waiting for the results of their BAP and also Prayers for those preparing to pack for their BAP.
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Codepoet: Are you in the Church of England? Then you should give the Clergy Appointments Advisor a call, and make an appointment with him. He gives very good advice, practical and (assuming it's still John Lee) spiritual. He operates out of the Wash House at Lambeth Palace, but travels round the country meeting with people within their dioceses at different times of the year.
A lot of people think you only go see the Clergy Appointments Advisor when you're getting desperate. This is not so.
Incidentally, I've made some very good friends at those horrible, horrible 'death by quiche' lunches and parish tours. Never with a successful candidate, it must be said. The unsuccessful ones tend to do the bonding. I was one of the unsuccessful ones too---until I came to Summerisle, where they turned out to want me. [ 17. May 2013, 22:03: Message edited by: Amos ]
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Sorry to double-post: I never brought my spouse to an interview for a post. The life of a clergy spouse is hard enough without being looked over in that way. I did know a number of single clergy who acquired fiancées for the purpose of the interview.
The system can make one very cynical. This is where the CAA comes in. He's seen it all and is still a decent person and a man of faith.
There's a lot more advice I could give you that isn't printable on a public forum. Do PM me if you wish with any specific questions.
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Prayers for you Codepoet.
It's all rather different from the Baptist Union set up (shudders) - interviews with Deacons, 2 Sundays preaching on trial as it were and a weekend (yes generally a whole one) on show to the congregation. In my case I faced an open congregation forum of over 120 people the last time ......
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A week to go before BAP.
Where is a 'hyperventilation' emoticon when you need one?
Hard thing is: Someone who was a better candidate than me was turned down a couple of weeks ago. On his second time through. Scary. Awful for him, poor bloke. And made me wonder if I should just pull out now! [ 21. May 2013, 19:51: Message edited by: Masha ]
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Hang on in there, Masha. God will open the right doors.
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Go well, Masha. I was there this time last year and I'm going back for a second attempt this time next year!
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