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Ariston
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1. Ooooh. We're getting 7th Doctor Redux! Moral ambiguity is tres sexxxy.
2. We might even be getting morally complex Daleks? A boy can hope that's what "life…prevails" means. It's what I liked most about "Asylum of the Daleks"—taking all the standard Dalek tropes, then subverting them. True, the old Daleks have been pretty much played out. Had been by Davidson's tenure, if we're being honest. Subverting them, making them morally complex—well, that's different. It plays against our expectations, our own ingrained ideas of the tropes.
3. More Vastra. Means more Strax. This is a good thing.
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Carys
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Originally posted by Adeodatus:
At last, a proper trailer - now we're talking!
Is it me, or did the Doctor say he'd lived for over 2000 years? I thought Matt Smith said he was 900 odd,so have 1000 years just happened for Peter Capaldi or what?
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Hedgehog
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Originally posted by Carys:
Is it me, or did the Doctor say he'd lived for over 2000 years? I thought Matt Smith said he was 900 odd,so have 1000 years just happened for Peter Capaldi or what?
The age of the Doctor is always tricky to work out because of many contradictory statements. And, for that matter, when we say he is x years old, by what planet are we calculating the years? A year of Earth? A year of Gallifrey?
But, to answer your question, in The Day of the Doctor Matt Smith said he was 1,200 (although he was very vague about that and admitted he might be wrong). Then, in The Time of the Doctor we are told that when he was stranded on Trenzalore, between the time that Clara was first there and the time of her second appearance, 300 years had passed. So that brings the Doctor to 1500. We are not told how much time passed between when Clara was sent away for the second time and she arrives back on Trenzalore at the end, but the Doctor has aged considerably by then, so it is not too much of a stretch to believe that another 500 or 600 years had gone by. That would then make the Doctor about 2000 at the time of his regeneration into Capaldi.
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balaam
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Originally posted by tessaB:
Has anyone seen this ?
Extra footage not on TV is the main attraction.
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Penny S
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It does say it will be made available at a later date.
Question - is it worth paying to watch the extra surrounded by popcorn and noisy people, or watching off air, and then the full version later up on my wall via the projector with our own choice of munchies?
Galaxy Quest was good in the cinema. The audience applauded. Never seen before.
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M.
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We've just booked to go to the Odeon Leicester Square to see it!!!!!!
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Jen.
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We've got tickets to see it at our local! I think dr who on big screen should be good!
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George Spigot
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I'm really hopeful that this new series/season will be an improvement. Especially with the promise of no Dr/companion romance.
While I'm on the subject did anyone else find The Time of the Doctor to be mind numbingly bad? I mean I'm hard pressed to think of a worse one. The Twin dilemma maybe? Or possibly the Space pirates?
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Penny S
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That question has sent me to the synopsis on Wikipedia. Clearly I missed some little references.
The answer is yes. I did actually think so at the time. I'm not going to compare it with anything else, but there was too much new stuff, and silly stuff, and the tying up of ends is like the back of my embroidery. (Clue, the back of embroidery should look as neat as the front.)
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Robert Armin
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Was The Time of the Doctor Matt Smith's farewell? If so, I agree completely. Unremitting bollocks from beginning to end.
On a tangent, I have just bought myself these shoes. I shouldn't have done, but I couldn't fight temptation any longer.
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tessaB
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I wantssss them my preciousssss. (Oh sorry, wrong fan hat on)
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orfeo
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The Time of the Doctor was bad, I think, although I'm not sure I would say it was one of the worst I've ever seen. Mind you, I don't remember it much.
When thinking about the most recent season/specials my mind instantly chooses to recall The Day of the Doctor (the 50th anniversary show), which was head and shoulders above most of the rest. Also The Name of the Doctor (season finale immediately before it) was pretty good. But 2012-2013 had more than its fair share of weak episodes, or episodes that were ultimately disappointing after promising rather more.
[ 05. August 2014, 13:43: Message edited by: orfeo ]
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Dafyd
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I enjoyed the Clara season so far, with the exception of the two Gatiss episodes.
Some people just like being grumpy.
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orfeo
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Originally posted by Dafyd:
I enjoyed the Clara season so far, with the exception of the two Gatiss episodes.
Some people just like being grumpy.
It's not as if the 'Clara season' has been that long yet!
Journey to the center of the TARDIS was a mess. Nightmare in Silver was pretty disappointing. I really, really liked Hide until the last few minutes when it decided it had to become feel-good and sappy. We couldn't possibly have a proper monster.
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Adeodatus
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Originally posted by orfeo:
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Originally posted by Dafyd:
I enjoyed the Clara season so far, with the exception of the two Gatiss episodes.
Some people just like being grumpy.
It's not as if the 'Clara season' has been that long yet!
Journey to the center of the TARDIS was a mess. Nightmare in Silver was pretty disappointing. I really, really liked Hide until the last few minutes when it decided it had to become feel-good and sappy. We couldn't possibly have a proper monster.
I've found that all of these (possibly excluding "Journey", which really was pretty bad) improve with acquaintance. Same goes for the Gatiss episodes, which I liked anyway, and Time of the Doctor. The main problem of "Time of...", as I may have said here before, was its pacing. It was just the wrong shape. It's possible it needed to be longer, but I think probable that it needed to be shorter, and cut out a lot of stuff about a centuries-long conflict that that little farming community couldn't possibly have survived.
I think one of the best things about Doctor Who in 2013 was Clara herself. I never disliked Amy or Rory, but I think Clara is an absolute star. She seems to have an air of slightly anxious wonderment that I think is wholly appropriate to a TARDIS traveller. I think seeing Jenna Coleman work with Peter Capaldi is going to be an absolute delight.
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lilBuddha
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Originally posted by Lord Jestocost:
[qb] An interesting insight into a parallel universe: Brian Blessed was offered the role of Doctor Who that went to Patrick Troughton.
Thinks might have been a lot different. And louder.
THE DALEK'S ALIVE!!!
What an unfair, gross mis-characterisation. ![[Disappointed]](graemlins/disappointed.gif)
It would have been something more towards THE DALEK'S ALIVE!!!!!! But louder, with more emphasis and flecks of spittle. And veins popping and.....
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Penny S
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According to a radio programme this morning (BBC London) Cardiff is awash today with costumed fans for a premiere of the first episode.
!!! Thought it was later.
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Eigon
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There was a nice bit of dialogue in a clip I've just seen:
Doctor: "She's not my assistant. She's - there's another word..."
Clara: "I'm his carer."
Doctor: "Right - she cares so I don't have to."
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Adeodatus
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Originally posted by Eigon:
There was a nice bit of dialogue in a clip I've just seen:
Doctor: "She's not my assistant. She's - there's another word..."
Clara: "I'm his carer."
Doctor: "Right - she cares so I don't have to."
Y'see ... when people say things like that, I just have to go looking. This morning's Breakfast on BBC, yes?
I am very very liking everything I see so far. This Doctor has an edge to him - just a hint of Malcolm Tucker, perhaps, as the tv interview suggests. (For any Shipmates who need to google Malcolm Tucker, there are clips from "In The Thick Of It" online, but they're probably not work-safe!)
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Adeodatus
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(Though, of course, there is no "In" in "The Thick Of It".)
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Jen.
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I went and watched the thick of it in preparation. I shall be most disappointed if there isn't a least a hint of tucker!
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tessaB
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Tickets booked for the cinema for next Saturday. ![[Yipee]](graemlins/spin.gif)
Felt a bit sheepish when the ticket seller had to check 'that's two adults then is it?' Yes it is ![[Hot and Hormonal]](icon_redface.gif)
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orfeo
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My 'preparation' consists of enfolding myself in seasons 12 and 13 - Tom Baker and Elisabeth Sladen and, behind the scenes, Holmes and Hinchcliffe.
I decided to go through season 12 before the new episodes started, and I enjoyed it enough that I decided to power on through season 13 as well. After all, there was only a very small broadcast gap between those two seasons, and no production gap at all...
It really is fascinating seeing the show evolve and change. Over the weekend I watched Ark in Space, The Sontaran Experiment, Genesis of the Daleks, Revenge of the Cybermen, Terror of the Zygons and Planet of Evil.
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Adeodatus
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Originally posted by tessaB:
Tickets booked for the cinema for next Saturday.
Felt a bit sheepish when the ticket seller had to check 'that's two adults then is it?' Yes it is
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There's no point being grown up if you can't be childish sometimes.
- The Fourth Doctor
Orfeo, that's some nice prep you're doing - some of the stories you're watching are among my favourites. I'm not doing much prep myself - a handful of stories from Matt Smith's last season is all, finishing with The Time of the Doctor, of course.
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Kelly Alves
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I think one of the best things about Doctor Who in 2013 was Clara herself. I never disliked Amy or Rory, but I think Clara is an absolute star.
I have to agree, much as I loved Amy. Once I got around to watching the season, I was impressed by the way Clara seemed to be so self-directing. And she put her hands on the steering wheel of the TARDIS!
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orfeo
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It's always fun watching the classic series and seeing something I remember from childhood (albeit it's currently things that I saw when they were repeated a few years later, not when they first aired).
Tonight I'm watching The Android Invasion. Sarah Jane's face has just fallen off. I definitely remember that. Last night it was Pyramids of Mars and I knew well before I got to it that Sutekh would be zapping the Doctor with his eyes. I had bloody nightmares about Sutekh's eyes...
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Adeodatus
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Pyramids was the cause of a minor Egyptology craze at my school. Well ... me and a couple of friends, anyway.
But Gabriel Woolf's amazing voice! - also famous for this. (Warning - don't click on that link if you're at work or of a nervous disposition! ![[Biased]](wink.gif) )
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LeRoc
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I knew almost nothing about Doctor Who. They did show it on Dutch television when I was young, but I wasn't interested in it at the time.
Last week, someone gave me a DVD with Season One (that would be the Ninth Doctor?) I have watched the first six episodes until now.
I'm not getting addicted. Nonono, I can still let go of this any time I want to. Really, I can.
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Robert Armin
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You'll only be addicted when you start calling it Season 27, rather then Season 1!
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LeRoc
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Phew! I'm still safe then. Now let me watch another episode ...
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Last week, someone gave me a DVD with Season One (that would be the Ninth Doctor?) I have watched the first six episodes until now.
Fantastic!
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orfeo
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Six episodes. He's seen 'Dalek'. That ought to be just about enough to hook him.
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LeRoc
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I'm afraid so. It's brilliant!
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orfeo
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May I say that I am gutted that on the 23rd I am at a conference. Just gutted.
In this part of the world it's on the 24th.
I've just watched The Brain of Morbius. Pretty good stuff. I'm afraid I'm becoming increasingly disillusioned with Philip Sandifer's blog, though... when he gets on an excited roll he just flatly ignores the actual TV show and declares that it demonstrates things that aren't in the script. His entry on Morbius ends up being built on a statement that is the exact opposite of the the statement the Doctor actually makes.
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Robert Armin
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May I say that I am gutted that on the 23rd I am at a conference. Just gutted.
I'm on retreat. Even though I will record it, that really is mortification of the flesh.
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I'm away on holiday. The holiday can't be rescheduled as it involves attending a music festival, so I'm having to record it as well. And presumably try to avoid social media until we get back, to avoid spoilers.
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tessaB
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Beloved daughter is at Reading festival this weekend. Hope she has a lovely time but I am gutted that I can't phone her when I get back from the cinema for a squealy fan-fest. She has fallen head-over-heels in love with every Doctor from Christopher Eccleston onwards and is ready to fall hard for Peter Capaldi. (Slight age gap as he is three years older than I am, but who's counting?)
Incidentally, I know he is best known for The Thick of It, but does anyone remember a short series way back in the day called Neverwhere? Written by Neil Gaiman it was about life under London. Anyway there was a rather young and pretty (but evil) angel called the Angel Islington in it, played by a rather young and pretty Peter Capaldi!
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Eigon
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Oh, he was excellent as the Angel Islington! I actually think he was better than Benedict Cumberbatch, who played the Angel in the recent radio version of Neverwhere.
He was also excellent as the quiet civil servant in Torchwood: Children of Earth.
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He's a multi-talented man, our Mr Capaldi. You can find online his documentary "A Portrait of Scotland" in which he traces the history of Scottish portrait painting. He was a student at Glasgow School of Art and can clearly still wield a nifty pencil. He comes across as having a warm and passionate personality and interestingly at one point describes himself as "an old fop".
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Jen.
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he looks better now than when he was Islington.
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jedijudy
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There was a nice little segment on the news this morning about Doctor Who.
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10 minutes to go!
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Loved it! Several bits made me laugh out loud and I think we saw that darker side to the Doctor emerging.
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balaam
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Best joke by the Doctor was the one about Kereoke and mime. I loved that one.
Well done Jenna Coleman for carrying the show.
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