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Jamat
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Strike that. Aussie will only want to bat once so no point in declaring.
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agingjb
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Some parallels:
Manchester 1964 - Australia batted for over two days (Simpson completed his 311) and declared on 656 for 8; England with Dexter (174) and Barrington (256) batted out virtually the rest of the match.
Adelaide 2006 - England declared at 551 for 6 on the second day (Collingwood had made 206, Flintoff still batting on 38*; Australia handily avoided the follow-on with 513; England were skittled for 129; Australia cleaned up.
Apart from heroics, (Hanif, Atherton, Laxman), runs are usually best accumulated in the first innings.
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Imaginary Friend
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Right. There's an outside chance that Aussie will give England an hour or so tonight, but perhaps even more likely is that they'll wait for the pitch to get more agreeable to Lyons' top spinner.
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Jamat
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A lot depends on the pitch now. If it holds up then the Brits can draw. Aussies still have to take 16 wickets. Dig in lads!
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Dark Knight
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Ha! A draw is wishful thinking. Our boys will bat for awhile on day 4, and then have most of two days to bowl out England again, probably on a deteriorating pitch.
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Imaginary Friend
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Yup.
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Sandemaniac
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Is it wrong to hope for a draw not to save England but to keep the series alive? I want a gripper, none of this over in a blink crap.
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Dark Knight
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Wow. In my wildest dreams I didn't expect a capitulation like that ![[Yipee]](graemlins/spin.gif)
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Imaginary Friend
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In some ways, it's quite reassuring to have the old England back. A bit like a comfy old sweater that you can feel relaxed in. You know where you stand.
(Somewhere in the middle of a mixed metaphor, I think.)
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Mr Clingford
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Right, time for James Taylor in place of one of the Bs.
Oh, and ouch.
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Dark Knight
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quote:
Originally posted by Imaginary Friend:
In some ways, it's quite reassuring to have the old England back. A bit like a comfy old sweater that you can feel relaxed in. You know where you stand.
(Somewhere in the middle of a mixed metaphor, I think.)
I hope that they are as unpredictable as they were in that great first test performance, and make a series of it.
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Sandemaniac
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Are you quite sure you're Australian, DK? ![[Devil]](graemlins/devil.gif)
I agree with you, but don't tend to associate that sort of sentiment with coming from the antipodes! Mind you, I do remember standing next to a guy in a yellow shirt when Australia played Oxford University at egg chasing and as an Oxford player intercepted the pass on his tryline and set off up the pitch, he was jumping up and down and screaming at him, and cheered when he touched it down. As he said, it was too good a move not to. So perhaps I'm just being unfair?
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Mr Clingford
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So it's Ballance out and Bairstow in. Oz don't have the same top 4 to knock over.
Lyth has a contract too. So hopefully he can relax and look ahead and not over his shoulder.
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Sandemaniac
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South African allrounder Clive Rice out for the final time, aged 66.
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Sioni Sais
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Originally posted by Sandemaniac:
South African allrounder Clive Rice out for the final time, aged 66.
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Clive Rice was overshadowed by Richard Hadlee in county cricket but not by cricketers or the regulars at Trent Bridge. Rice could bowl quicker than Hadlee, was as skilful and scored more runs, faster. He hardly missed a catch and captained Notts for years. They loved him in Nottinghamshire and he's a shoo-in for the Heaven XI.
We're losing far too many cricketers too young.
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Sipech
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Australia are doing a jolly good impression of England here. ![[Two face]](graemlins/scot_twoface.gif)
James Anderson currently has bowling figures of 10-2-22-5 ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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Dark Knight
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Indeed. Anderson is kicking our arses.
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Sandemaniac
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Of course, the myriad Mitchells still have to bowl at England on it, that could be interesting.
Edgbaston has sold out four days - if England wickets start to tumble as well, there'll be some worried faces in the boardroom!
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Baptist Trainfan
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Whoopee! 136 all out.
Will England collapse even more spectacularly?
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Sandemaniac
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Not yet... three behind, three wickets down. Tomorrow's forecast doesn't look very swing-friendly, it could all be jolly interesting...
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Imaginary Friend
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Who won the toss?
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Dark Knight
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Clarke
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Imaginary Friend
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Interesting.
I'm travelling for work at the moment, so I'm in a horrific time zone (as far as cricket goes, at least) and working on limited internet access so I haven't been able to follow the game much. So consider that a disclaimer on any opinion I dare to venture. But...
To be bowled out for 130-something in the fourth innings when you're chasing a massive total is one thing. To win the toss, bat, and do the same is something else. So, were Jimmy et al really on form, or did Australia play with Geoffrey's proverbial stick of rhubarb?
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Sioni Sais
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The pitch has something in it for bowlers but mostly the Australians batted like they were in Australia. Jimmy & co moved it just half or quarter a ball's width and that was enough. Two batsmen were out trying to leave the ball and another bowled playing no shot.
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Sipech
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What do we reckon? Is Root going to carry on the form of his life today? Can Bairstow carry his domestic form into the Test arena? Or are England going to fold and be all out for 210 shortly after lunch?
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Sipech
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Can Bairstow carry his domestic form into the Test arena?
That'll be a 'no' then.
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Sandemaniac
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Johnson takes two in his first over of the day... I sense a thriller!
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Dark Knight
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Johnson and Lyon are the only two keeping our heads above water.
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Sandemaniac
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It's edge of the seat stuff, isn't it? Even if England could scrape a lead of 150, just a change in the weather could make the difference...
Holey moley, first 408-9 against the Kiwis, now this, who writes Edgbaston's scripts?
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Sandemaniac
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*wonders whether he should get clean pants*
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Sioni Sais
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Looks like Finn v Warner at the moment.
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Dark Knight
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This is England's test, now that Warner is gone. Unlikely that Nevill and Johnson can last much past catching the first innings total, let alone build any kind of lead.
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Sandemaniac
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...but Anderson goes off with a side strain - sounds like a bad one (having had one, I can confirm they are horribly painful). Could there still be a twist?
You know what, I very nearly don't care who wins this - it's just been such a - so long as the tension keeps up!
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Dark Knight
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Prolly doesn't matter, Sandy. Jimmy seems to bowl really well about once a year or so, and that happened in the first innings. It's Finn that is destroying Aus in the second.
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Jamat
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Bob Willis maintains that Aussie will always prevail in a flat track.
What's the temptation to juice it up and does this wreck the tradition?
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Sioni Sais
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Bob Willis maintains that Aussie will always prevail in a flat track.
What's the temptation to juice it up and does this wreck the tradition?
That helped in 2005. The sole flat track was for the Fifth Test at the Oval, where Warney dropped The Ashes.
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Sipech
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Anderson has now been ruled out of the 4th Test.
I'm now imagining the Australian tail will wag, they'll set a target of about 110 and England will be reduced to 95-9. Jimmy will have to come out and hold up an end, hoping that Broad can knock off the final few runs in a nail-biting climax.
However, I still won't get home in time to watch any of the highlights.
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Sandemaniac
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Currently considering opening a bottle of champagne. Not to celebrate, for the cork.
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121 should be doable but...
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Imaginary Friend
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The commentators on Sky are talking like this is all but over. Which will no doubt annoy the sporting gods. Squeaky bum time.
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Sipech
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Captain Cook gone. We need every batsman to get 11, not for every partnership to be worth 11.
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Sioni Sais
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I don't know what Ian Bell had for lunch but I've never known him start like this, even in limited over cricket.
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Sandemaniac
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Maybe they found Mitchell Johnson's meat ration?
He's slowed up a bit now, but he's still there...
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Evensong
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2/106 on day three. Only 15 to go.
*sigh*
Ah well. Two to go! If our batsman can hang in a bit, we should be right.
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Imaginary Friend
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Never in doubt. ![[Biased]](wink.gif)
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Jamat
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Hardly a stutter. Woohoo!
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Sandemaniac
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TV's no better here - audience figures are a fraction of that in 2005 because it's on Sky.
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