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Source: (consider it) Thread: chasing the Black Dog - a depression support thread
Lothlorien
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Prayers for you and your post is in exactly the right place. Prayers for professional help too for you, that it may be what you need right now.

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Praying for you IanC, especially for your spirit to find rest and peace and that you find a safe and supportive church family. [Votive] [Votive] [Votive]
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It makes perfect sense, IC. [Votive] that you can find healing and peace.

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alto n a soprano who can read music

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Everything feels too much. I can't explain it here. I have hardly any hope and I wonder if that makes me a crap Christian, because I don't trust God to make anything better.

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Pay no mind, I'm doing fine, I'm breathing on my own.

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Zooey, it sounds more as if you can't trust, which is a desolate, but quite involuntary, place to be in. [Votive] And many saints have been there.

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The man who made time, made plenty.

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Lamb Chopped
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A very normal Christian. (((Zoey)))

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Piglet
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Keeping you in my prayers, Zoey - perhaps when your own faith is faltering a bit it doesn't hurt to borrow a little from someone else.

[Votive]

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alto n a soprano who can read music

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Doone
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Praying for all here, especially Ian and Zoey [Votive]

I feel better now but my back dog is never too far from the door, so thinking of you and all those who lurk on this thread.

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Erroneous Monk
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I'm not feeling too good. i can't find my crisis action plan. I know it starts with thinking about and talking to people who love me. And it ends with going to hospital. But what's in the middle?

I have phoned a friend. I'm trying to do the right things.

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And I shot a man in Tesco, just to watch him die.

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EM [Votive]
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quote:
Originally posted by Erroneous Monk:
I'm not feeling too good. i can't find my crisis action plan. I know it starts with thinking about and talking to people who love me. And it ends with going to hospital. But what's in the middle?

I have phoned a friend. I'm trying to do the right things.

Does it include any reading? Or active stuff such as gardening? [Votive]

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The man who made time, made plenty.

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E M [Votive] [Votive]
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Mentioning it here is a good start; you can be assured you're in our prayers.

[Votive] that you feel better soon.

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EM [Votive]
Hope you find the missing middle. Funnily enough, having just fallen up the office stairs with a cup of black coffee, I feel much better. Perhaps I drowned the dog by accident!

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Erroneous Monk
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Thank you for your support and prayers. After retreating to hide under the duvet yesterday afternoon, I'm now up and at it again....

Hope you are all doing OK

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And I shot a man in Tesco, just to watch him die.

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Doone
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That's good to hear EM!
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Good on you, EM! [Smile]

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Huia
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Well done EM. I find a strategic retreat can sometimes allow me to gather myself together to get into things again.

Huia

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Charity gives food from the table, Justice gives a place at the table.

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no prophet's flag is set so...

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Middles.
A friend quoted Dante to me today and it rang the bells of EM's post, and I have found it in my bookshelf (a few liberties with this quote):
"In the middle of the journey of our life
I found myself in a dark wood
for I had lost the right path.
It is a hard thing to speak of
Of how wild, harsh and impenetrable that wood was...
But I came forth, and once again beheld the stars"
And the shining world.

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Maybe I should stop to consider that I'm not worthy of an epiphany and just take what life has to offer
(formerly was just "no prophet") \_(ツ)_/

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[Overused]

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Beauty fades, dumb is forever-Judge Judy
The man who made time, made plenty.

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[Votive] for everyone here.

Wish life would make more sense to me. I see so many lost opportunities and bad decisions in my life, and there is just no time or place to do anything about them. (I'm 82, and giving up)

Where is God when you need him?

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You are all you have to give, Nicodemia, and it will be enough. Hoping you find your way through the desert. [Votive]

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Beauty fades, dumb is forever-Judge Judy
The man who made time, made plenty.

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(((Nicodemia)))

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Er, this is what I've been up to (book).
Oh, that you would rend the heavens and come down!

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Welease Woderwick

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Decisions certainly have consequences but we can never know, in this life, what good we have done by a chance word or action as one of the consequences of one of our lost opportunities.

All shall be well and all shall be well and all manner of things shall be well.

I think that sometimes we have to take God on trust even when our self rebels at the idea - and even when we rebel at the idea of God!

[ 16. July 2016, 13:33: Message edited by: Welease Woderwick ]

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What part of Matt. 7:1 don't you understand?

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Doone
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[Votive]
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((Nicodemia))
[Votive]

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Welease Woderwick

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I think this thread needs retaining so I'm bumping it to avoid the Hostly Hoover.

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What part of Matt. 7:1 don't you understand?

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Erroneous Monk
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Very tired and increasingly detached

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And I shot a man in Tesco, just to watch him die.

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Teekeey Misha
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[Votive] EM.

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Welease Woderwick

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quote:
Originally posted by Teekeey Misha:
[Votive] EM.

Amen to that.

Depression is such a bastard!

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What part of Matt. 7:1 don't you understand?

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{{{{{everybody}}}}}

My Seasonal Affective Disorder (SAD--a type of depression) is kicking in. I have meds, but keeping up with them can be hard.

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Erroneous Monk
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Thanks for prayers and hugs and the very useful reminder from GK that we may all need more light. Me for sure.

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And I shot a man in Tesco, just to watch him die.

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Doone
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Totally agree, just upping my meds as well.
Prayers for all of us [Votive]

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My own Black Dog has been hiding under the bed with the other monsters for some time, but recent health-related and church-related events are making him stir and growl a bit...

[Votive] for all with Black Dogs, or SAD (just as badly-behaved, ISTM).

Ian J.

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The future is another country - they might do things differently there...

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Lamb Chopped
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(((Nicodemia and all of us)))

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Er, this is what I've been up to (book).
Oh, that you would rend the heavens and come down!

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Piglet
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Prayers continuing to ascend for all on here; for those of you who suffer from SAD, are light-boxes of any use?

Having grown up as far north as I did (59°N), I got used to the short days of winter, and found that they were more than compensated for by the long summer evenings, but I fully accept that this was just good fortune.

Where we are now is about 46°N - the furthest south I've ever lived* - and I've been noticing the "nights drawing in" recently, although the only effect this usually has on me is that I realise I'm looking forward to that extra hour in bed on the last Sunday of October ... [Smile]

* Actually it's only a couple of degrees further south than St. John's, but it does seem that the evenings here started getting a little darker a little earlier.

[ 04. October 2016, 21:43: Message edited by: Piglet ]

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Lamb Chopped
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Yes, lightboxes help, and medicine helps, and a long, long visit to sunny California helps most of all. [Big Grin]

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Er, this is what I've been up to (book).
Oh, that you would rend the heavens and come down!

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Not if you live at the top of Skyline Cloudsuck Everfog Ridge. [Frown]

Yesterday it was too wet to go outside, just from drizzle. It sucked.

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Huia
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It's spring here and, apart from the temperatures, the weather is worse than it was in winter.

I can cope with rain, but mist and drizzle are the pits. I try to go for a walk regardless of the weather because it lifts my mood. The bubble bath I have to warm me if I get cold and wet helps too.

Huia

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Erroneous Monk
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*switches light box on*

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And I shot a man in Tesco, just to watch him die.

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Moo

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When I lived in New Hampshire, I had mild SAD. An article in the paper suggested that people with SAD should spend at least a half-hour out of doors when the sun was at its highest. I did this, and it took care of the problem; it helped even on cloudy days.

Those with more severe SAD would probably benefit from this in addition to their other treatment.

Moo

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Welease Woderwick

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My solution to the SAD issue is the opposite of Piglet's - by moving here to much nearer the equator I no longer face the short winter days - dawn to dusk in winter is about 11 hours (summer 13 hours) which I find manageable. The fact it is warm all year is just the icing on the cake!

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What part of Matt. 7:1 don't you understand?

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Lamb Chopped
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quote:
Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
Not if you live at the top of Skyline Cloudsuck Everfog Ridge. [Frown]

Yesterday it was too wet to go outside, just from drizzle. It sucked.

Kelly, I don't know how dark Skyline Cloudsuck Everfog Ridge gets, but the amazing thing I noticed when I moved from SoCal to St. Louis is how freaking DARK the cloudy days are here in comparison. Like, 500% darker.

I think I'd gotten used to the light bouncing from the Pacific to the underside of the clouds out there. Here there is no Pacific to act as a mirror, and instead the streetlights try to figure out if they should come on.
[Disappointed]

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Oh, that you would rend the heavens and come down!

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quote:
Originally posted by Erroneous Monk:
*switches light box on*

EM, every time I see your sig on a post it makes me grin. Even when you are taking shit, it casts a little ray of light into my day.

AG

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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Erroneous Monk:
*switches light box on*

EM, every time I see your sig on a post it makes me grin. Even when you are taking shit, it casts a little ray of light into my day.

AG

Don't really know how to take that, but have a hug anyway *hug*

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Have one right back from me, I don't need one right now, but I appreciate the thought, and I expect you need one too.

AG

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"It becomes soon pleasantly apparent that change-ringing is by no means merely an excuse for beer" Charles Dickens gets it wrong, 1869

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Here I suppose. As in where to post my sudden tears of helplessness for Haiti. I don't know what to do. I just cry. Saying it. Where's the best donation site? Who's on the ground there?

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My church collection is using Tearfund as I understand they are on the ground (appropriate name, eh? [Tear] [Votive] )
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