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Rugmaker
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OK, I've sgined up, invested and lost over £4000 already (thank goodness I'm an also ran!). Does it update in realtime, or do I need to wait until tomorrow now to see any changes?

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Golden Key
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{Helpfully suggested in an Also-Ran sort of way, from the shores of Paradise Island.}

The Motley Fool. "To Educate, Amuse, and Enrich."


Socially-responsible investing--Co-op America.

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Angel Wrestler
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[Help]

I'm registered, have chosen my stocks, and thought I'd entered in the information to buy them but when I view my portfolio, it says I have no stocks. What am I doing wrong? How do I buy the stocks?

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Angel Wrestler
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Oh... never mind. I see that the market is closed. Hmmm... 6 hour time differenc? I hope tomorrow morning isn't too late.

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chicklegirl
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quote:
Originally posted by Angel Wrestler:
I hope tomorrow morning isn't too late.

If it is, you won't be the only one in that pickle!

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Angel Wrestler
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Maybe if we offered one of these pickles to Quizmaster he'd let us stay.

(QM, you are a he, aren't you????) [Hot and Hormonal]

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Doublethink.
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I have decided to buy mainly chocolate and sugar, mmmmmmmmm chocolate ....

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The Great Gumby

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Angel Wrestler and chicklegirl, Quizmaster didn't specify a time you had to sign up by. Just that the bottom of the table at the end of the week would be eliminated. That being the case, you've done well to miss out on today's collapse. [Smile]
quote:
Originally posted by Quizmaster:
So to summarise:
1. Find the site
2. Join the site
3. Join the KOQ08 league
4. Trade to win

To clarify, Quizzy, does point 4 mean that someone who creates an account but sits on their starting £100,000 without trading is deemed not to have taken part in this round?

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Chorister

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Having attended his wedding, I can assure you that QM is a he. He looked lovely in a long white dress.

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Mertseger

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quote:
Originally posted by The Great Gumby:
To clarify, Quizzy, does point 4 mean that someone who creates an account but sits on their starting £100,000 without trading is deemed not to have taken part in this round?

I would hope so since this week it appears that the optimal strategy would be to hold cash. Whoever loses the least this week would probably win the round. Unfortunately, the rule is completely unenforceable unless he sets some minimum investment amount. One need only purchase a share of some .05p stock at the end of the week to win. But since the goal of this round, as ever is not to lose, that shouldn't matter much. On the other hand, the sentence, "The person who is bottom of the table at the end of the week will be eliminated," depends critically on exactly which direction the table is sorted. [Biased]

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jedijudy

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I believe I lead the pack for the bottom of the Stock Market game! [Help]

I think everyone else is safe.

Hey...I'm already in the SkyBox making tea and eating barbecue! Well, it's not really BBQ, but good grilled food, thanks to rugasaw! [Big Grin]

[ETA a word]

[ 06. October 2008, 21:48: Message edited by: jedijudy ]

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rugasaw
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Nutmeg I think your portfolio dropped. I could have sworn that you could have started with over 100,000 thanks to a previous game(koq 2005). And Jedi, you might want to use a new log-in. Otherwise, you use the amount in your last account from 2005 which is less than what others are starting at.

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Imaginary Friend

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By the way, are we going to find out who did best at guessing Exeter's weather tomorrow?

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Adam.

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quote:
Originally posted by Mertseger:
I would hope so since this week it appears that the optimal strategy would be to hold cash.

Yup. As you can see from the fact that I have the second largest portfolio, but I'm 14th.

quote:

Whoever loses the least this week would probably win the round.

Well, rugasaw actually managed to make 5K GBP yesterday. If he keeps this up, he'll be able to retire from the KOQ and live off his earnings as a night* trader.

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* Given where he lives, and the fact that he should stick to the London exchange.

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The Great Gumby

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quote:
Originally posted by Mertseger:
On the other hand, the sentence, "The person who is bottom of the table at the end of the week will be eliminated," depends critically on exactly which direction the table is sorted. [Biased]

And, indeed, on which field. I just sorted by trader, and it looks like Surfing Madness is in the relegation zone! [Big Grin]

There was a brief bounce this morning, with the market gaining 100 points, but now everyone seems to have started selling again, and we're back to no change.

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Rugmaker
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None of my investments seem to be doing anything today, so I've started playing with the fantasy FX (foreign exchange) as well. This appears to move every minute or 2 and is a great fun way of losing your fantasy money - would anyone care to join me?

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Marvin the Martian

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Can it only be coincidence that QM chooses to start the share trading round, and immediately the FTSE drops by 391 points in one of the worst daily performances since it was created?

Someone should have notified the Chancellor that this round was starting up again. He could have made preparations. Instead the KOQ08 has damned the stock markets and plunged the country deeper into recession.

Oops.

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Nutmeg
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quote:
Originally posted by rugasaw:
Nutmeg I think your portfolio dropped. I could have sworn that you could have started with over 100,000 thanks to a previous game(koq 2005). And Jedi, you might want to use a new log-in. Otherwise, you use the amount in your last account from 2005 which is less than what others are starting at.

I reset it, back to the 100,100 pound sterling you start with. I didn't lose that much money overnight.. [Roll Eyes] .

The aussie banks dropped interest rates by 1% today, and there is some hint that it may be part of a co-ordinated world wide move. If that is the case banking stocks could be good buying...

Of course I could be wrong too. [Big Grin]

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They have newspapers in London too. Basically, if you know it, so does the market, so the share price will already have adjusted by the time you get round to buying.

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the pilgrim
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Well, it's beyond me. I've found the site and I've joined the site, but I've got no idea how to find and join our league. HELP!!

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The Great Gumby

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Go to your league options (11th in the Member Options list), and you'll have the option to join a league. Click on K, and scroll down to KOQ08, then follow Quizzy's instructions.

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the pilgrim
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Thank you GG.

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the pilgrim
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How can I go wrong! I've invested all my money in chocolate, tobacco & beer!

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Wet Kipper
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quote:
Originally posted by Nutmeg:
I reset it, back to the 100,100 pound sterling you start with.

ooh, how did you do that?
I've logged in with my account from back in '05 and have aout half as much "worth" as everyone else [Eek!]

edited to add

except now that I look at my portfolio, and then back again at the league, the shares I "bought" 3 years ago have doubled in price and I'm now yards ahead of everyone else. [Yipee] [Overused]

[ 07. October 2008, 20:23: Message edited by: Wet Kipper ]

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Doublethink.
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Huh, lost a thousand - how the hell do you lose a thousand on chocolate and sugar ?!?

I shall be conservative, I shall buy gold - I refuse to believe gold will lose value in a monetary crisis.

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Angel Wrestler
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OK; I'm in!

I bought 600 shares total of Speedy Hire and 300 shares of Tesco. My daughter is kicking me off the computer [Mad] , so I'll have to post how well they did later on this evening or tomorrow.

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rugasaw
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quote:
Originally posted by Hart:
...Well, rugasaw actually managed to make 5K GBP yesterday. If he keeps this up, he'll be able to retire from the KOQ and live off his earnings as a night* trader.

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* Given where he lives, and the fact that he should stick to the London exchange.

I should note that I made 5,000 pounds since 2005. I got started early on this round. [Biased]

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jedijudy

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quote:
Originally posted by rugasaw:
I should note that I made 5,000 pounds since 2005. I got started early on this round. [Biased]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. [Roll Eyes]
Just go ahead and rub it in. [Razz]

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Patdys
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quote:
Originally posted by the pilgrim:
How can I go wrong! I've invested all my money in chocolate, tobacco & beer!

Hell of a lot more fun than buying shares. [Big Grin]

I'll be able to join eventually... [Frown]

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The Great Gumby

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[Sneaky underhand thought]

Is there a rule preventing us from resetting our accounts when we make huge losses, and getting back to the relative wealth of £100,000?

[/Sneaky underhand thought]

(Not that anyone taking part in this quiz would be so low and unsporting as to consider such a thing, of course. No, never.)

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Golden Key
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{Also-Ran entry, while enjoying a leisurely breakfast with Xena, Gabrielle, and Wonder Woman on Paradise Island.}

My moon is the Apollo 17 moon buggy. It sits on the surface of Earth's moon, and is about 3 meters high.

[Cool]

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jedijudy

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[Killing me] Golden Key!

Under "non-stressed" in the dictionary is your picture! [Razz]

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the pilgrim
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OH NO! I've over-indulged in tobacco, beer, wine and chocolate! Now I'm suffering the consequences!..... Forgive me Lord, for I have lead a sinful life....

[ 08. October 2008, 13:10: Message edited by: the pilgrim ]

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jedijudy

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Hey! We never did get yesterday's weather report! So, what was it like? Were any of us close?

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Geneviève

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Guys, real life is piling up on me this week, and I haven't yet done any trading. It is likely I will wind up an also ran; if so, I will pop in and play when i can.

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Liberty

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I think by not trading you have the best chance of not becoming an also ran, Genevieve. Those of us trading are losing money rapidly! So you could be better off!

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the pilgrim
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Oh, for those BOOM days of the nineties....

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Adam.

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quote:
Originally posted by icklejen:
I think by not trading you have the best chance of not becoming an also ran, Genevieve. Those of us trading are losing money rapidly! So you could be better off!

I think we determined that under QM's rules, you had to make at least one trade to qualify. Of course, Genevieve could qualify by just logging on and buying a single share of anything. Even if she buys a big woofing bow-wow like UKC, she can't lose more than she paid for it so she'll still be towards the top of the table.

All that said, the market seems to be recovering a little right now. I know my portfolio's up since yesterday! (Still very much down on Monday though...)

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The Great Gumby

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Well, I asked the question, but I don't think we've reached a conclusion on whether buying shares is essential to participation in this round. No doubt Quizmaster will deliver a wise, fair and transparent verdict in due course.

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Adam.

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Well, the FTSE's well and truly closed for the week. Does that mean the round's over? If so, who's out?

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fletcher christian

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So, could I simply post and stay in the game?

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CuppaT
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I signed in and tried, even though it is late. I hope I did things right. It's hard to see how anyone could gain these days!

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Doublethink.
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I even lost money on my gold [Frown]

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Doublethink.
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I am a bit obsessional, so I tried to find out what the weather had been in Essex on Tuesday the 7th of October. When you google you discover no-one cares [Frown] It's all forecasts. So in the end I rang a nice young man at the MET office, who clearly thought I needed my head examining to ring him up at twenty past nine on a saturday morning to ask him this. And here is what he told me;

TIME: 13.50
TEMPERATURE: 17 degrees
WIND DIRECTION: 200deg (SW)
WIND SPEED: 26knots (30mph)
WIND GUST: ? (probably gusting to 37mph)
VISIBILITY: Very Good (over 10k)

(He also told me there had been a few showers, it was as if he couldn't quite believe I didn't want to know about the rain.)

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Doublethink.
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So chicklegirl and east price road were probably closest I think. Bet QM is glad he didn't ahve to try to score that one !

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quote:
Originally posted by Doublethink:
I am a bit obsessional, so I tried to find out what the weather had been in Essex on Tuesday the 7th of October.

Just wondering why Doublethink found out about the weather in Essex when we were predicting the weather for Exeter?

(I'm now wondering if Doublethink will confirm her madness by phoning the met office again to see what was happening in Exeter!!)

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Surfing Madness
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quote:
Originally posted by Doublethink:
I am a bit obsessional, so I tried to find out what the weather had been in Essex on Tuesday the 7th of October.

Just wondering why Doublethink found out about the weather in Essex was when we were predicting the weather for Exeter?

(I'm now wondering if Doublethink will confirm her madness by phoning the met office again to see what was happening in Exeter!!)

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Eliminated for failure to join the trading league:
Caty.
East Price Road
Fletcher Christian

QUALIFIERS:
Angel Wrestler
Chicklegirl
Davelarge
Doublethink
Flags_Fiend
Genevieve
Hart
Icklejen
Jedijudy
Mertseger
Nutmeg
PataLeBon
Patdys
Surfing Madness
The Great Gumby
The Pilgrim

Well done to the Also Rans who joined in - There should be some points in it for you.

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Angel Wrestler
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Whheeewww! I never did quite navigate the stock trading website very well.

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Adam.

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Well, now we're a sweet sixteen.

For Doublethink to actually score the weather round, she'd need the weather for each time that someone picked. I have a feeling that she might be getting to know that nice person at the Met office a little better!

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