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Frustrated Farmer
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Thanks Comet ![[Yipee]](graemlins/spin.gif)
The fire department did rule this week that Phred's fire was arson.
At one time the clan had the telephone number for many of the fax machines in town. They would send out information on their picketing schedule for the week and also who they considered bound for hell for being a f** enabler. Mrs. Farmer would bring some of them home from work to share with me. ![[Projectile]](graemlins/puke2.gif)
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Frustrated Farmer
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An article today in the local paper about the clans court case in Nebraska, I believe the subject is flag desecration.
I am not skilled in posting links, however going to www.cjonline.com and looking for the story about Phelps-Roper on the left hand side should get you there.
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Originally posted by Frustrated Farmer:
An article today in the local paper about the clans court case in Nebraska, I believe the subject is flag desecration.
I am not skilled in posting links, however going to www.cjonline.com and looking for the story about Phelps-Roper on the left hand side should get you there.
This should do it
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Originally posted by Frustrated Farmer:
... court case in Nebraska, I believe the subject is flag desecration.
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Desecrating the flag is a crime over there? ![[Killing me]](graemlins/killingme.gif) It's a good job it isn't in the UK, especially given that said desecration seems to involve having a kid stand on it and a woman wear it as 'a skirt that dragged on the ground'.
What a difference The Pond makes.
Still, the more inconvenience that can be caused to them, the less of their time they can spend ranting at bereaved and vulnerable families.
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must be a state thing, because it's not a crime here. ![[Confused]](confused.gif)
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The clan was busy picketing on the corner across from the church this evening when I went in for services. ![[Disappointed]](graemlins/disappointed.gif)
There is a report out that a record label is after the clan for unauthorized use of one of their songs.
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Originally posted by Frustrated Farmer:
The clan was busy picketing on the corner across from the church this evening when I went in for services.
There is a report out that a record label is after the clan for unauthorized use of one of their songs.
I'd be interested to know what the song was - All You Need Is Love perhaps?
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Originally posted by Jahlove:
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Originally posted by Frustrated Farmer:
The clan was busy picketing on the corner across from the church this evening when I went in for services.
There is a report out that a record label is after the clan for unauthorized use of one of their songs.
I'd be interested to know what the song was - All You Need Is Love perhaps?
There clearly used to be a link to it in this post, but the video's been removed because of the copyright claim, and I can't remember what the song was. I think I clicked on the link and watched it and was left with a feeling, but can't picture the actual song.
Ahhh - got it, someone had mentioned it here. According to the article, it was a parody of "We Are the World". If my newly-jogged memory serves, I think their version was something along the lines of "God Hates the World". The video ended with a tiny little girl, aged maybe about two, singing it - it was really quite ![[Mad]](angryfire.gif) ![[Frown]](frown.gif)
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There is a report out that a record label is after the clan for unauthorized use of one of their songs.
Bloody well about time. There's more than one way to, er, prepare Campbellite's dinner. Remember, Al Capone was sent to jail for tax evasion, not for being a gangster. It's nice to see copyright legislation being used to protect artistic integrity, not just commercial interests. OliviaG
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must be a state thing, because it's not a crime here.
As far as I know(I'm not American), the right to burn American flags had been upheld by the SCOTUS, and attempts to ammend the constitution to make it illegal have never succeeded.
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There is an interesting interview online with Nate Phelps, one of the Phelps kids who ran away from the family as soon as he turned eighteen. Harsh stuff.
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Nate agrees with prominent atheist and scientist Richard Dawkins, who has said that religion can be "real child abuse."
Given his descriptions of some of the things he grew up with, this is not an unreasonable perspective for him to have. Also interesting was that the first comment on the article was from someone claiming to be Shirley Phelps-Roper. Obviously on the internet you can be whoever you want, but it did seem to have that trademark Phelps style.
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Apparently Phelps is trying to head out here to Vancouver to protest a production of the Laramie Project. Can you say free publicity?!?! The venue that it is being performed in is only 60 seats so a good public run at the border and or a good loud protest could give them enough coverage to sell the show out.... you can't pay for coverage like that. Of course I would rather that we just sent him back from whence he came at the border which could still make some news and give some fallout publicity for the show without running the risk of letting him in the country and then not being able to get rid of him... sort of like some evil virus that you can't kill you just have to contain it until it dies of it's own accord.
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Originally posted by auntbeast:
Apparently Phelps is trying to head out here to Vancouver to protest a production of the Laramie Project. Can you say free publicity?!?! The venue that it is being performed in is only 60 seats so a good public run at the border and or a good loud protest could give them enough coverage to sell the show out.... you can't pay for coverage like that. Of course I would rather that we just sent him back from whence he came at the border which could still make some news and give some fallout publicity for the show without running the risk of letting him in the country and then not being able to get rid of him... sort of like some evil virus that you can't kill you just have to contain it until it dies of it's own accord.
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Could there also be a hope that the Phelpsians may act as some kind of homeopathic remedy for homophobia? Other Christian groups that take a equally dim, but less vociferous, view of gay/lesbian relationships may have to reconsider the very basis of their view to ensure they don't get associated with the poisonous Westboro Baptist Church (as opposed to other, legal and decent, Westboro Baptist Churches).
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Soror Magna
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Update on the reception for the Phelpses: two local MPs have written to the Minister of Justice to request that they be turned back at the border (as happened to them earlier this year when they tried to picket a funeral in Manitoba). The local community is also organizing a non-violent anti-hate demonstration to greet them if they somehow do manage to sneak in. And, well, frankly, if tempers do fray, I can't say I'll blame the locals. What else are we supposed to do with foreign agents provocateur? OliviaG
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PS Sorry, Minister for Public Safety. You can read the MPs' statement here:
http://libbydavies.ca/
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PS Sorry, Minister for Public Safety. You can read the MPs' statement here:
http://libbydavies.ca/
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And has Doris responded? Or has he been shifted to yet another post? He'd probably be on Phred's side, anyway.
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Soror Magna
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Pete, Doris was shuffled to International Trade. OliviaG
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Soror Magna
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There's an interview with Libby Davies and Shirley Phelps-Roper on the CBC website:
ETA link: Stop anti-gay group...
Anyway, Ms. Davies explains the situation. Ms. Phelps-Roper just screams. OliviaG
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I agree with one of the comments on the first link - allow them in to Canada, allow them to start demonstrating then arrest them and throw the lot in jail for a year or ten. They won't be missed and I'm sure they'd make lots of lovely new friends.
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I don't know about arresting the Phelps' clan. The Phelps' family live on a persecution complex. Arrest them, and they will start screaming "You are persecuting us!".
Better to ignore them, and focus on other things in the world. You do not pay attention to idiots, you let them wallow in their own stupidity, and sooner or later, they will get their own comeuppance.
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Idiot who break the law, however mouthy, are entitled to the same consideration as silent idiots.
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They were in Portland on Monday. There was a little glitch in their plans, since the Swedish consulate closed in June. There was a fairly non-confrontational counterdemonstration, which included one person with a sign saying "I'm reasonably certain God does not hate fags." One of Fred's granddaughters was quoted as saying "we're not trying to save anybody," which kind of sums the whole thing up, dontcha think?
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Originally posted by Anglican_Brat:
I don't know about arresting the Phelps' clan. The Phelps' family live on a persecution complex. Arrest them, and they will start screaming "You are persecuting us!". ...
If they were home-grown bozos, that might be an option to consider. However, they are not. The Phelpses are deliberately entering our country in order to violate our laws. They should get the same reception that I would if I announced I was going to Seattle to rob a bank. OliviaG
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I would love to see Canada do what hasn't been done here in the USA, arrest them and make them spend time in jail! It would gladden the heart of this Topekan and I'm sure, many others as well.
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Reading the article above, struck by the irony of the comment made by a supporter of the play:
"I think you defy hatred by love. That's how you deal with hatred."
I'm sure Jesus said something about that!
And aren't Christians supposed to be loving under persecution and not the heathen sinners!!??
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Originally posted by Timothy the Obscure:
...included one person with a sign saying "I'm reasonably certain God does not hate fags."
I guess that person was British, then ![[Razz]](tongue.gif) - or if not, Episcopalian ![[Biased]](wink.gif) .
Phelps and co bring out the worst anti-libertarian in me to fight with the bleeding-heart liberal I usually am. It's like the BNP issue - everyone has a right to free speech, except the ones who preach hatred and prejudice. If anyone finds out how to square that circle, do let me know. ![[Help]](graemlins/help.gif)
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Originally posted by Rev per Minute:
Phelps and co bring out the worst anti-libertarian in me to fight with the bleeding-heart liberal I usually am. It's like the BNP issue - everyone has a right to free speech, except the ones who preach hatred and prejudice. If anyone finds out how to square that circle, do let me know.
I don't think there should be many limits on what one can say, but there should be on where. People shouldn't be allowed to harass and intimidate ordinary people as part of "free speech".
On your soap box in the park? Fine.
Outside someone's funeral? No.
Personally I am amazed the Phelpses are still alive. One day they are going to protest at the funeral of the wrong soldier, and his buddies are going to snap.
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Frustrated Farmer
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While driving in the city tonight, the clan were out picketing on a busy street not far from the local synagogue. They have added Santa Claus to their list of #$%^.
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Originally posted by Frustrated Farmer:
While driving in the city tonight, the clan were out picketing on a busy street not far from the local synagogue. They have added Santa Claus to their list of #$%^.
Is Santa gay? Just what goes on with him and all those elves?
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Is Santa gay? Just what goes on with him and all those elves? [/QB][/QUOTE]
I always thought that Mrs Claus was a beard!
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Santa may or not be gay, but he's apparently the gateway to Hell.
The Phelps clan, apparently hearing about the controversy surrounding the atheist sign in the Washington state capitol, have made their own submission to the displays (which now also include a Festivus Pole). They've even got a song!
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There is a story in the local paper tonight that someone vandalized the church that the clan attends.
www.cjonline.com
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Did hanging out near the synagogue bring ol' Satan Claws to mind, or is there something about fat red furry men that makes Phelps' bunch want to go bother a synagogue?
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Originally posted by Frustrated Farmer:
There is a story in the local paper tonight that someone vandalized the church that the clan attends.
www.cjonline.com
"Police have identified a suspect and warn the public not to approach a heavily built man wearing red, who fled the scene on a sleigh drawn by eight moose."
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Pat them on the head
Tell them "Everything will be all right" and give them a biscuit.
Make sure this is televised.
When they rant and rave talk to the camera saying "Aren't they cute? I wonder what they will be like when they grow up."
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Just so Phred does not completely fade from our memories:
While driving to church yesterday morning, the clan was busy standing on the sidewalk in front of the Methodist church up the street with their less than clever signs. Driving on to the corner that the Episcopalians share with the Lutherans, I discovered that they were working there also.
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Originally posted by Frustrated Farmer:
Just so Phred does not completely fade from our memories:
While driving to church yesterday morning, the clan was busy standing on the sidewalk in front of the Methodist church up the street with their less than clever signs. Driving on to the corner that the Episcopalians share with the Lutherans, I discovered that they were working there also.
Let me get it right: instead of picketing military funerals the Phelpsians are picketing churches? Why churches? Why aren't they picketing stores, factories and banks?
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Phred and the clan do not believe that most churches interpret scripture correctly, especially on homosexuality. Hence they picket churches that do not share their interpretation of the same. I have seen signs that suggest that all clergy are f@#s or enablers of f&#s.
At one time they sent out a schedule of which churches were going to be picketed during the week. RC and Episcopal churches seem to be favorites, but Methodists, Lutherans and the local synagogue are also on the list.
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Interested to see that God will destroy the UK (and the rest of the world). Presumably not while the clan are here picketing our low budget art projects, though, so maybe we should ask them to stay?
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Originally posted by Lord Jestocost:
Interested to see that God will destroy the UK (and the rest of the world). Presumably not while the clan are here picketing our low budget art projects, though, so maybe we should ask them to stay?
Oh go on, take one for the team.
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Will the U.K. actually let them in?
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Curiously enough, it's the theatre at my old sixth-form college. If I still lived nearby, I'd attend the planned counter-demonstration...
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Will the U.K. actually let them in?
We should let them in, then arrest them using our draconian anti-hate speech laws. I knew they'd be useful one day...
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Send 'em to Gaytanamo Gay!
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They could always picket this church.
One wonders if it is possible to throw rocks at people in Christian love...
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Thank you, sandemendiac!
Proof that despite mighty erections, the manner of humpin' gays leads to destruction!
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