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lilBuddha
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Originally posted by Karl: Liberal Backslider:
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Originally posted by Doc Tor:
I'm going to enjoy watching Chesterfield burn as the economy craps out and there's no money left to pay for civilisation.
Nah. Deano'll enjoy that; civilisation's not his thing. Bear in mind I live there too, and I'm not going to let proximity to Deano stop me, although it'd be understandable. I find air freshener, or failing that a can of flyspray, does the job.
Karl, every-time you respond to him, you save him the cost of a Viagra. Might be a good idea to divest in Pfizer stock right now. Sir Wanks-a-Lot is driving up tissue stocks, though.
You have to admire what a shining example of Christianity he is, though.
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Originally posted by lilBuddha:
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Originally posted by Karl: Liberal Backslider:
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Originally posted by Doc Tor:
I'm going to enjoy watching Chesterfield burn as the economy craps out and there's no money left to pay for civilisation.
Nah. Deano'll enjoy that; civilisation's not his thing. Bear in mind I live there too, and I'm not going to let proximity to Deano stop me, although it'd be understandable. I find air freshener, or failing that a can of flyspray, does the job.
Karl, every-time you respond to him, you save him the cost of a Viagra. Might be a good idea to divest in Pfizer stock right now. Sir Wanks-a-Lot is driving up tissue stocks, though.
You have to admire what a shining example of Christianity he is, though.
Yes because I remember that part of the Sermon on the Mount when Christ said "Blessed are the remainers for they will ensure the Brussels gravy train shall continue rolling on."
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Alan Cresswell
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You also seem to be able to remember the bit where He says "Blessed are the arrogant tossers" judging by the way you seem to consider your ejaculations to be the greatest blessing you can bestow upon us.
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Originally posted by deano:
I especially like the "no borders" type of lefty, who wants to let in as many immigrants as we can cram in until it hurts. It really isn't going your way at the moment is it?
Not me, but perhaps you need to have a chat with Dan Dan the Oratory Man. Sounds like you bought a pig in a poke.
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Originally posted by deano:
I especially like the "no borders" type of lefty, who wants to let in as many immigrants as we can cram in until it hurts.
Interestingly enough Daniel Hannan MEP leading Brexiter has confirmed that he would expect open borders to remain in the future & that leaving the EU will not stop immigration ( see here ) & of course he is correct as the only realistic option for the UK is a poor persons version of the Norway model. If you voted leave to close the borders that ain't going to happen.
If you voted to leave to end equality laws, to encourage poisoning bees, for greater air pollution & for our country to become poorer then you have chosen the right way forward.
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I think we're on a the road to Castle Fruitcake if we think deano responds to reason and logic.
Even though the Brexit Tories and UKIPpers have admitted to lying through their back teeth, he'd rather live in the delusion that this referendum has been "won" and that all those fucking foreigners will be sent back home by Christmas.
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{Tangent, for those of us not of the UK, who want to understand.}
"Brexit: The story of an island apart" (Mark Mardell Presenter, The World This Weekend, BBC News).
I found this helpful in understanding varying British views of Britain, mainland European views of Britain, and why they don't necessarily mesh. FWIW, YMMV.
{/tangent}
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Ariston
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So the coverage over here has two distinct slants:
1. "If the British could vote for this, we could elect Trump. Be Afraid."
2. "Dear Britain: seriously, how fucking stupid are you people?"
Now, I'll grant you, Slant #1 is a bit of "let's make a parallel to a situation in our own country to help people understand what's going on in another one, and drive up our clicks with a juicy, contrarian headline" job. We may be scared of a Trump presidency, but By God, we're not going to let it happen.
Angle #2, though...maybe it's just because the Greatvasmajority of Britons I know came out for Remain*, often very eloquently, and often drawing upon their own immigrant experiences (with a bit of "but nobody's trying to throw out my ex-Saffa/'Murican ass from this country...hmmm..." thrown in for emphasis), but I have trouble joining in the mocking tone of some of the coverage. Okay, fine, so my experience is colored by British friends and associates, and I realize it's a bit of post-colonial "who's the land of extremism, stupidity, gun violence, and political dysfunction NOW, bitches!" glee on our part, but still. Still. The whole "ohshit, we voted for WHAT? WE did that? Maybe we should have looked up what the EU was before we left it" angle is being played for yuks a bit much here, especially given how frankly frightening the consequences may be both personally and globally.
*Isolationism not exactly being a popular political position among those with foreign friends and associates and all...
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It's amazing, isn't it. Even without an empire to wreek havoc they still manage to fuck everyone over.
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Nightlamp
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Ian duncan Smith said today "Our promises were a series of possibilities" basically they sold a fantasy which ain't going to happen.
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Doc Tor
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A friend of mine has just posted on FB, witnessing a white child spit in the face of a black child and shout "Leave!" at her. In a McDonalds. And the manager asked the black family to go, because they hadn't ordered their food yet.
Well done, Brexit! *golf claps*
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Penny S
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Merde.
Give me my country back. As they said.
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Curiosity killed ...
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There's been a few other things posted:
- Postcards put through the doors of Polish families living in Peterborough telling them to leave,
- a banner in Newcastle saying "Stop immigration, start repatriation"
- a photo of a Romford man wearing a t-shirt saying "Yes we won, now leave" on diamondgeezer's blog
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Penny S
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I've kept hearing Derek Jacobi over the past few weeks. "Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out" and here they come.
That manager should be sacked. And the white family barred from any McDonalds.
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Ariel
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Originally posted by Curiosity killed ...:
There's been a few other things posted:
- Postcards put through the doors of Polish families living in Peterborough telling them to leave,
- a banner in Newcastle saying "Stop immigration, start repatriation"
- a photo of a Romford man wearing a t-shirt saying "Yes we won, now leave" on diamondgeezer's blog
Yes, and the Polish community centre in Hammersmith now has graffiti in large letters saying "Get Out". Wtf? Has this level of xenophobia really been simmering beneath the surface all along?
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mr cheesy
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Fuck. Somehow we need to mobilise to protect our neighbours from these fascists. Not sure how exactly..
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Ariel
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It feels depressingly reminiscent of early 1930s Germany.
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Doc Tor
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Originally posted by Ariel:
Has this level of xenophobia really been simmering beneath the surface all along?
Yes, of course it has. What's changed now is that it's acceptable to voice it, because the racist and xenophobic believe that over 50% of the population agree with them.
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Originally posted by Ariel:
It feels depressingly reminiscent of early 1930s Germany.
Yes. Very much so.
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Stetson
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Ariston wrote:
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The whole "ohshit, we voted for WHAT? WE did that? Maybe we should have looked up what the EU was before we left it" angle is being played for yuks a bit much here, especially given how frankly frightening the consequences may be both personally and globally.
Well, the global consequences of George W. Bush's foreign-policy were pretty horrible, but I don't recall that this led to any reticence on the part of Brits about making fun of HIS stupidity, or that of the Americans who voted for him.
Personally, though, I'd be surprised if it were actually proven that a large number of Brexiters didn't know what they were voting for. My guess is that the narrative about dumb-assed Leave voters is based on anecdotal evidence(real cases, but not neccessarily representative) that the media is spinning in order to advance any number of agenda.
I mean, not that I assume everyone in the UK is a philosopher-king. But even I, a distant observer who has never set foot in blessed Albion, know that the alleged immigration overflow is often cited as a reason for opposing the EU. So I'm really having a tough time imagining a Leave voter watching the analysis the next day and saying "Bloody hell, these guys are anti-immigrant?! I had no IDEA!!"
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Barnabas62
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Originally posted by Doc Tor:
A friend of mine has just posted on FB, witnessing a white child spit in the face of a black child and shout "Leave!" at her. In a McDonalds. And the manager asked the black family to go, because they hadn't ordered their food yet.
Well done, Brexit! *golf claps*
The genie is now out of the bottle.
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Stetson
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Originally posted by Barnabas62:
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Originally posted by Doc Tor:
A friend of mine has just posted on FB, witnessing a white child spit in the face of a black child and shout "Leave!" at her. In a McDonalds. And the manager asked the black family to go, because they hadn't ordered their food yet.
Well done, Brexit! *golf claps*
The genie is now out of the bottle.
I'm wondering if there has been an actual increase in this type of racism, or if the media is just reporting it more often because of the vote.
I'd also speculate that people who would have been inclined to do or say racist things anyway are now adding a "Brexit" label to their bile, which helps garner media attention.
Off the top of my head, I can think of about half a dozen racist incidences that took place in Canada within the past few months, including a physical assault just a few days ago. So it's not like this sort of thing requires an electoral catalyst. (Though the arrival of the Syrians last year might have played a part.)
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Barnabas62
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We don't normally post links to other discussion forums in answer to questions, Stetson, but you might wish to take a look at this.
If you can.
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Penny S
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I've been elsewhere, and found Facebook - Worrying signs* a page of submissions of incidents. Not nice, but including a link to a group called "The 48" which has badges... to show they are not part of what has been going on.
Also #Postrefracism for more of the same. This includes police advice to report incidents which will be treated as hate crimes. So not quite like 1930s Germany.
Some of this isn't new. I went, some time ago, to a recommended transport caff for breakfast once, and it had up a sign saying "England. Love it or leave it." It was a good breakfast, but I didn't go back.
And a nearby garden centre lost my custom. It made a point at one time of stocking golliwogs, but it wasn't that, or the male stripper nights, but a notice about payments that put it on my avoid list. There was something that I found so offensive that I haven't remembered it! And I wasn't going back to check, either. But it seemed clearly designed to put off non-natives. Or so I thought. Can't find anything on their website, and they've won awards.
When Friends Reunited started, its message boards were rapidly adopted as a communication centre for the NF and the BNP, with a lot of hate stuff, mostly aimed at travellers. The facility was closed, which was a nuisance for people not of that sort.
But the thoughts have been about. And now they are in the open. I hope Farage, Gove, Johnson, Duncan-Smith and co are proud. (And at least two of them would be covered by some of the bilious demands being made currently themselves.)
I half want to make myself one of the 48 badges. And half am afraid of the result. I no longer trust my neighbours. (Well, my nearest are OK, and the chap on the corner from the fellowship church, but I have my doubts about the woman with the St George flag on her car.)
*Cross posted with Barnabas, and I think my link has superseded his, since I couldn't open that from within mine - if that makes sense!
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Penny S
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Here's the Huffington Post and its comments.
I'm sad to see that the Gravesend Sikh temple has been attacked - I was concerned after seeing the Leave notices on the entrance to the town, and interviews on the TV, briefly. Huffington post
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Barnabas62
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The Huffpost article provides a link to Sarah Childs who has created a "Worrying Signs" album, a compilation of incident reports. That's what I linked to. There are very many of them from across the UK and they are indeed scary, as the HuffPost article indicates.
That's what I meant by the genie out of the bottle.
[Wearing my hairshirt, I've notified HellHosts about these links because I'm not sure whether they may cross some of our guidelines.]
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Stetson: the stuff I was reporting came from social media, not the mainstream media. And I've spoken to two people in the last 24 hours who voted leave as a protest against EU bureaucracy, without an inkling how close the vote would be, and are pretty horrified that the Brexiters won, and/or we've unleashed this uncertainty. These guys aren't in the areas where the EDL and UKIP have such a voice, living in one of the areas that voted to Remain.
Some of Cameron's gerrymandering to ensure a return Conservative government seems to have backfired here. The rewriting of the voter registration rules meant that short term tenants, ie students, had to reregister between the General Election and the EU Referendum. So something like 20% of eligible voters in my daughter's university town could.
What chance we continue to have car manufacturing in the UK? Nissan are only in Sunderland / Washington for access to Europe, ditto Ford. Are we still going to have a banking sector when the International banks relocate to Frankfurt? What about EU funded research departments, such as the IRR? They are likely to up sticks to somewhere where they can continue to receive EU funding without complication.
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Penny S
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I did wonder.
And my Facebook link is to a second one started by Sarah Childs. Right down at the bottom.
There's a twit on one of them arguing that there's no proof that racism has increased since Friday, and if it has it is not necessarily related to the vote, even if the abusers say it is. Basically posting over and over again and removing the site's function as a record.
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Originally posted by Stetson:
I'm wondering if there has been an actual increase in this type of racism, or if the media is just reporting it more often because of the vote.
POSK has been in Hammersmith for decades. This is the first time I've ever heard of it being daubed in racist graffiti though.
Also, I fucking love it how when distorting stories were pushed about millions of Turks were coming here, it was all about 'listening to very real concerns', and now it's all about 'show me the evidence'.
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If y'all want nightmares, you can also check out #PostRefRacism on twitter. Some seriously nasty stuff.
I think it's time we stopped kidding ourselves about a "tiny minority" - racism is a big problem in Britain (particularly England) and there's a lot more of it than many of us would like to think.
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lilBuddha
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Originally posted by Adeodatus:
If y'all want nightmares, you can also check out #PostRefRacism on twitter. Some seriously nasty stuff.
I think it's time we stopped kidding ourselves about a "tiny minority" - racism is a big problem in Britain (particularly England) and there's a lot more of it than many of us would like to think.
I've said before that racism is a larger problem than most white people wish to admit.
But I think some of what seems to be occurring now is fear-based reaction than dyed-in-the-wool racism being revealed.
Doesn't excuse anything, of course.
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Apparently Boris is now saying "Immigration wasn't the #1 reason people voted for Brexit, so it's OK if we don't do anything about it".
Which is technically true - if you believe the Ashcroft poll, immigration was #2.
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Originally posted by Curiosity killed ...: There's been a few other things posted:
- a photo of a Romford man wearing a t-shirt saying "Yes we won, now leave" on diamondgeezer's blog
That one was worse than I remembered - the t-shirt says "Yes we won, now send them back".
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Racist attacks or abuse, regardless of which race is doing it, will continue to be punishable by the Law. Talk of 1930s Germany is hysterical nonsense.
Doubtless there is a small and regrettable wave of nasty stuff going on in the wake of the referendum similar to what was seen after 7/7 terror attacks.
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Ariel
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This morning's journey to work was enlivened by the sight of a large bin next to the railway tracks, with the words "GO HOME" painted in large letters on it. I'm not sure what was on the other side, but it certainly wasn't there on Friday.
I think the English branch of Pegida is going to attract a lot more members and be more open about what they do. Farage will be increasingly active (he's already promised that) and Ukip will probably continue to campaign on a platform of further demands. The way I see it, the country is likely to become increasingly polarized, and racial (and other forms of) harassment incidents will become increasingly common.
That may well be a short-term thing but in the short-term it is likely to be nasty.
Brexit could still work. It needs people to put aside their differences and make it work, though. I'm not optimistic.
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Originally posted by rolyn:
Racist attacks or abuse, regardless of which race is doing it, will continue to be punishable by the Law. Talk of 1930s Germany is hysterical nonsense.
Doubtless there is a small and regrettable wave of nasty stuff going on in the wake of the referendum similar to what was seen after 7/7 terror attacks.
I hope you are right, but I fear you are not.
I was watching Children of Men yesterday. Now that's some scary-arsed crap right there.
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Ariel
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Originally posted by rolyn:
Racist attacks or abuse, regardless of which race is doing it, will continue to be punishable by the Law.
Yes - if you can catch who's doing it. When stuff appears mysteriously overnight and the perpetrators can’t be traced, and there’s a series of this in the same locality, it creates an atmosphere of intimidation.
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Very sadly, this is another of the fundamental problems that the Brexit vote exposes.
We have, for some years now, passed unenforceable laws which are, in practical terms, little more than an expression of disapproval. We now seem to be in the process of discovering this, and finding that disapproval is insufficient to prevent them from happening.
Saying "Boo to this kind of thing" is not the purpose of law.
The obvious forms of enforcement would require a kind of intrusive policing which almost assumes criminality in advance of evidence which is a prospect I, for one, find abhorrent, as well as resources the police simply doesn't, and now can't, have.
Anyone have any idea how this kind of law can be enforced in a pluralist kind of way?
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Originally posted by leo:
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Originally posted by deano:
I love to see the likes of Keith Vaz crying on live TV because more people voted against his politics than did for them. Wonderful.
Keith Vaz, recognised by both sides of the house as a committed Christian and good constituency MP?
Would that be a different Keith Vaz from the one sanctioned by the house and the one involved in the passports for cash row? I don't suppose that would be the same Vaz who is rather better off than most of his constituents, living in London and nor Leicester?
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Down with every MP with a better living standard than their constituents. To the Tower with them or failing that the guillotine.
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Alan Cresswell
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Madame la Guillotine is too European to be used in Britain.
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Jane R
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Alan: quote:
Madame la Guillotine is too European to be used in Britain.
Ahem. We did it here first. Doesn't anybody know anything about history nowadays?
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Alan Cresswell
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Pah! Who wants to let facts get in the way?
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Jane R
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That's how we got into this mess in the first place, you know... ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif)
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Alan Cresswell
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Yep.
If you can't beat them ...
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Don't cling to a mistake just because you spent a lot of time making it.
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Alan Cresswell
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Keep going. It's always best to learn at the feet of a master.
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Don't cling to a mistake just because you spent a lot of time making it.
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mr cheesy
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Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
Keep going. It's always best to learn at the feet of a master.
Fair enough, good to see you and Boris getting on so well at last.
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Karl: Liberal Backslider
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Originally posted by Adeodatus:
If y'all want nightmares, you can also check out #PostRefRacism on twitter. Some seriously nasty stuff.
I think it's time we stopped kidding ourselves about a "tiny minority" - racism is a big problem in Britain (particularly England) and there's a lot more of it than many of us would like to think.
And it's become more brazen. I'm having to start not just ignoring all the golliwog posts on Facebook and actually call people on it now. I fear I will lose friends.
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Might as well ask the bloody cat.
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